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04-01-2013 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by NoSkill20
Should I be worried if I started off playing Zoom by winning 11BI and now in 2-3 sessions lost 8 of them? This is over around 15-20K hand sample and I'm going to be looking through HH but still kind of want to know from others with larger samples if these kind of up/down swings are standard?

Also, not excluding leaks, just asking if it's standard.

Hi there!

I am currently 62k hands down at $2nl zoom - I find that my big swings (both up and down) come from one of three things:


- Bad beats -This is fine, I'm happy I got it in good.
- Playing like a **** - This is not a nice feeling.
- Hitting a monster - Happy days!

The thing I try to remember is this: You cannot expect to beat this level in just a few hands, but you can severely halt any progress by making a few bad plays.

This game, as with all poker is about not making mistakes!

East.
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04-01-2013 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chiego
you can NOT fold this pre

villain doesnt even have a full stack
Just call the AI or shove pre? But most of the times I will be seeing KK/AA/AK

Last edited by Tarkyo; 04-01-2013 at 11:46 AM.
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04-01-2013 , 12:22 PM
hello boy's and girl's.
So any1 can help me.Need to find any good serries about zoom/strategy play in youtube or any free from member.Any1 can show me?
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04-01-2013 , 12:31 PM
Hand 1

What do you guys think he is holding? And is this a very spewy play?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.55
SB: $3.31 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: $6.01 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 59)
UTG: $6.72 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 28)
MP: $5.07 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
CO: $24.86 (VPIP: 18.82, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 6 9 J
CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 7
CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($2.07, 2 players) Q
CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.55 and is all-in, fold

Hand 2

Shouldn't have donk the flop and turn.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.34 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
SB: $7.31 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 15)
BB: $4.98 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: $7.87 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (MP): $27.09
CO: $10.36 (VPIP: 14.06, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 64)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q A

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO raises to $0.40, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.87, 2 players) 2 A 8
Hero bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.87, 2 players) J
Hero bets $1.45, CO raises to $9.46 and is all-in, fold

Hand 3

He has a straight?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.54 (VPIP: 14.23, PFR: 12.13, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 246)
SB: $5.21 (VPIP: 27.45, PFR: 10.78, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 103)
BB: $1.23 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.61, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 109)
UTG: $2.66 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (MP): $33.39
CO: $8.38 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, fold, SB calls $0.18, fold

Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) A Q K
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.95, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB raises to $1.30, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($3.55, 2 players) 8
SB bets $3.46 and is all-in, fold

Hand 4

I am putting him on a better two pair

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.53 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: $12.71 (VPIP: 20.18, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 117)
Hero (BB): $11.94
UTG: $6.06 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 23)
MP: $4.54 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $8.18 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 66.67, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 4 7

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) 7 3 4
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.52, 2 players) 8
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

River: ($1.12, 2 players) A
Hero bets $0.85, BTN raises to $3.98 and is all-in, fold
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04-01-2013 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarkyo
Hand 1

What do you guys think he is holding? And is this a very spewy play?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.55
SB: $3.31 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: $6.01 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 59)
UTG: $6.72 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 28)
MP: $5.07 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 44)
CO: $24.86 (VPIP: 18.82, PFR: 16.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 6 9 J
CO bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 7
CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

River: ($2.07, 2 players) Q
CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.55 and is all-in, fold

Do you think he folds a better hand than yours there ? Or calls with worse ?
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04-01-2013 , 12:41 PM
h2: check behind turn
h3: fold pre 74s is a trashy hand, when ya call and hit that board you have to XR especially when he bets that small.
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04-01-2013 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
Do you think he folds a better hand than yours there ? Or calls with worse ?
I think he folds a weaker hand than mine. Am I right?
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04-01-2013 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ntelis
hello boy's and girl's.
So any1 can help me.Need to find any good serries about zoom/strategy play in youtube or any free from member.Any1 can show me?
there is no zoom strat
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04-01-2013 , 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarkyo
I think he folds a weaker hand than mine. Am I right?
I suspect that you are right.

What would your raise accomplish then ? If he has a hand you beat, he folds it and you win what you were already winning. If he has a hand that is better than yours, you just cost yourself money that you didn't need to.
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04-01-2013 , 03:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntelis
hello boy's and girl's.
So any1 can help me.Need to find any good serries about zoom/strategy play in youtube or any free from member.Any1 can show me?
Check out Gripsed on Youtube. The guy talks a lot of sense and is great for noobs
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04-01-2013 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunna100
Check out Gripsed on Youtube. The guy talks a lot of sense and is great for noobs
ty mate
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04-01-2013 , 06:14 PM
reg? leveling himself blind vs blind

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $23.69 (236.9 bb)
SB: $35.47 (354.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $12.36 (123.6 bb)
UTG: $18.01 (180.1 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10.54 (105.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J Q
4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) K T A (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, SB raises to $2.90, Hero raises to $4.30, SB raises to $5.70, Hero raises to $12.06 and is all-in, SB folds

Results: $12.00 pot ($0.54 rake)
Final Board: K T A
SB mucked and lost (-$6.00 net)
Hero mucked J Q and won $11.46 ($5.46 net)
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04-01-2013 , 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienSpaceBat
I suspect that you are right.

What would your raise accomplish then ? If he has a hand you beat, he folds it and you win what you were already winning. If he has a hand that is better than yours, you just cost yourself money that you didn't need to.
Thank you so much! I think this is definitely a leak for me in the past. Very solid advice.
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04-02-2013 , 01:28 PM
PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $100.50
SB: $164.76 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 107)
BB: $13.36 (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
UTG: $104.41 (VPIP: 18.63, PFR: 14.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 311)
MP: $101.50 (VPIP: 20.80, PFR: 18.14, 3Bet Preflop: 7.61, Hands: 231)
CO: $158.16 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO calls $1.00, Hero raises to $5.00, fold, fold, CO calls $4.00

Flop: ($11.50, 2 players) Q Q A
CO bets $6.00, Hero calls $6.00

Turn: ($23.50, 2 players) T
CO bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

River: ($37.50, 2 players) 7
CO bets $81.00, Hero raises to $82.50 and is all-in, CO calls $1.50

Hero shows Q Q (Four of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 68%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
CO mucks J K (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 32%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins $199.70

Bump

Last edited by PlasticElephant; 04-02-2013 at 01:29 PM. Reason: still down 4 figs this month :(
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04-02-2013 , 01:31 PM
What it's april you already down 10bi :O
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04-02-2013 , 02:26 PM
had quads twice, a royal flush and a straight flush (got stacks in with 3/4 of them as well) in 5k hands of march and think i'm up like 1bi....

....not sure what to make of march just yet
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04-02-2013 , 02:40 PM
Okay thank you for the feedback
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04-02-2013 , 03:38 PM
Its April Cal.....
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04-02-2013 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Its April Cal.....
He said this yesterday and I corrected him. Not learning from his mistakes!
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04-02-2013 , 04:43 PM
hahahaha not sure why i keep thinking its march, something must be wrong with me - possibly why im playing like aids right now.

just 3b/c AA on KJThh in a srp cos i had blockers to the nuts lol

edit: and had overpair + GS so easy stack off

Last edited by raikkonen3; 04-02-2013 at 04:57 PM.
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04-02-2013 , 07:23 PM
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $50.00 (VPIP: 21.57, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 52)
SB: $50.00 (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
Hero (BB): $214.00
UTG: $26.50 (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 18.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.59, Hands: 1,068)
MP: $12.59 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $63.82 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J T

fold, fold, CO raises to $1.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.00, CO calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25, 2 players) K 6 2
Hero bets $5.25, CO calls $5.25

Turn: ($20.75, 2 players) Q
Hero bets $12.50, CO raises to $30.50, Hero calls $18.00

River: ($81.75, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO checks

Hero shows J T (High Card, King) (Pre 69%, Flop 80%, Turn 91%)
CO mucks J 8 (High Card, King) (Pre 31%, Flop 20%, Turn 9%)
Hero wins $79.25


was so obviously calling river
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04-02-2013 , 07:46 PM
PokerStars - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $103.00 (VPIP: 26.24, PFR: 21.87, 3Bet Preflop: 10.03, Hands: 1,404)
SB: $108.39 (VPIP: 23.65, PFR: 18.65, 3Bet Preflop: 6.40, Hands: 1,633)
Hero (BB): $195.24
UTG: $191.92 (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 8.47, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
MP: $202.50 (VPIP: 21.76, PFR: 13.43, 3Bet Preflop: 4.49, Hands: 220)
CO: $101.00 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 58)

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to $3.00, fold, BTN calls $3.00, fold, Hero raises to $13.50, MP calls $10.50, BTN calls $10.50

Flop: ($41.00, 3 players) 6 4 9
Hero bets $17.50, fold, BTN calls $17.50

Turn: ($76.00, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($76.00, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets $72.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $72.00

BTN shows T 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Twos) (Pre 19%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 81%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins $217.20

better luck next time mate
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04-03-2013 , 06:38 PM
bump


Last edited by Burnss; 04-03-2013 at 06:38 PM. Reason: dead thread :(
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04-03-2013 , 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
bump

well done, what stakes?
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04-03-2013 , 07:42 PM
200nlz
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