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12-27-2012 , 02:17 PM
the fish goes broke faster and that's when regs are forced to play other regs

and we finally play poker and the industry keeps going, waiting for a new breed of fish...

the future looks pretty sad if I see myself bumhunting to the heart, fast seeting out to avoid botting, other regs sitting you out if you take a seat, everybody instaleaving when fish goes broke, everybody instaseating when he reloads etc etc...

perhpas zoom/rush can help the industry because the fish that has a half a clue feels less targeted (the others don't even realize )
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12-27-2012 , 03:29 PM
Thanks FTP for showing me I should have just stuck with stars.
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12-27-2012 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chad0x001
oop, in this hand:

BTN: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
SB: $9.20 (184 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.52, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $0.98

Flop: ($3.07) 6 T 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, BTN calls $1.50

Why not just jam the flop? he's shown willing pre so probably calls it off.
Because a huge part of his 4bet call range is AK. Basically I have his entire range crushed so I want him to be jamming the portion of hands like AQ+ thinking he has 2 overs or some FE.
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12-27-2012 , 03:36 PM
Frosty can you post your graph please. Also if you moved up from 5nl Rush/Zoom what was your bb/100 if you don't mind me asking?
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12-27-2012 , 03:41 PM
graph for what exactly? 5NL rush/zoom ?

+ also I think because of the Version mumbo Jumbo ( there was a change in how the Database works in HEM1.12.10 )

I can't fetch my Pokerstars Hands atm, I can only fetch my Fulltilt hands atm. I need to sort this stuff out, I finished my Iron man mid year bonus @ ft and now try to finish the Deal me in bonus at FT maybe I pick up the Xmas bonus at FT and then I switch to PS again and will change the version again

Last edited by Frostyice; 12-27-2012 at 03:52 PM.
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12-27-2012 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostyice
graph for what exactly? 5NL rush/zoom ?
If you don't mind yeah.
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12-27-2012 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OppositeAttract
Thanks FTP for showing me I should have just stuck with stars.
I was hoping Full Tilt would unrig my account after the takeover, but my Stars and FT graphs continue to go in opposite directions.
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12-27-2012 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostyice
graph for what exactly? 5NL rush/zoom ?

+ also I think because of the Version mumbo Jumbo ( there was a change in how the Database works in HEM1.12.10 )

I can't fetch my Pokerstars Hands atm, I can only fetch my Fulltilt hands atm. I need to sort this stuff out, I finished my Iron man mid year bonus @ ft and now try to finish the Deal me in bonus at FT maybe I pick up the Xmas bonus at FT and then I switch to PS again and will change the version again
Don't worry if it is too much trouble but when you get some time can you just write a tiny bit about the transition from 5nl > 10nl and any major differences you noticed + how much your winrate dropped, that'd be great
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12-27-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostyice
PPL who tilt are going to spew off their roll in minutes moving up stakes
can confirm this. was rolled enough for 10NL and bam, one tilt/spew session and loss bigtime and had to move down.
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12-27-2012 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oop u mad
If you don't mind yeah.


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This is the last 2 Month actually, I'm running better this month than last though

I think it's because of the HEM version mumbo jumbo I can't acess my hands I have played in 2009 on FT @ 5nl Rush

Also can't access my 500k+ hands at PS 5NL Zoom

I'm running at -1bb/100 at 5NL rush over 73k hands

Mainly because I get rake raped

I paid 328$ in rake over 73k hands and thanks to the 20% rakeback from Platinum I'm actually running at +EV

I'm just sticking around to FT till I finish all of my bonus, the 125$ from Iron Man Mid Year, and now the 400$ DMI Bonus while playing around Breakeven in that time (also I have some xmas bonus waiting for me too)

the 6.7% rake at 5nl/10nl rush is just way too high
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12-27-2012 , 04:10 PM
Good lord man, that red line is painful
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12-27-2012 , 04:11 PM
Red line alone is irrelevant.
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12-27-2012 , 04:13 PM
Not really
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12-27-2012 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Frostyice


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This is the last 2 Month actually, I'm running better this month than last though

I think it's because of the HEM version mumbo jumbo I can't acess my hands I have played in 2009 on FT @ 5nl Rush

Also can't access my 500k+ hands at PS 5NL Zoom

I'm running at -1bb/100 at 5NL rush over 73k hands

Mainly because I get rake raped

I paid 328$ in rake over 73k hands and thanks to the 20% rakeback from Platinum I'm actually running at +EV

I'm just sticking around to FT till I finish all of my bonus, the 125$ from Iron Man Mid Year, and now the 400$ DMI Bonus while playing around Breakeven in that time (also I have some xmas bonus waiting for me too)

the 6.7% rake at 5nl/10nl rush is just way too high
$328 rake in 73k hands? Jesus christ.. I had no idea rake was anywhere close to that high. I'm just unlocking my Xmas deposit FTP bonus also, releases in $10 increments rather than $20 which is nice, am somehow still Gold Edge on FTP even though haven't played since the day it re-opened, thanks for posting.
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12-27-2012 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BornToRun
Not really
It is.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...t-ever-791734/

for reference


@ oop

rake at 10NL is pretty high too

I played around 13k hands and it's 138$ rake
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12-27-2012 , 04:19 PM
I've read that many times. Didn't mean my comment in a rude way btw, was just mourning for you. I don't see how any line isn't 'relevant', especially to itself, as that's what I commented on.
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12-27-2012 , 05:00 PM
I appreciate your concern, but I don't feel like I'm not bluffing enough, I think I'm actually bluffing too much :|
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12-27-2012 , 08:31 PM
are you playing SC (56s+) from UTG in zoom/rush?

yes, no, some of them, depends by the stake...?!?

if yes, are you doing it randomnly just for balancing your range? Or, are you looking up who is ahead of you and their 3bet%?

thx
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12-27-2012 , 08:45 PM
I'm playing nothing below JTs from UTG

usually folding JQs from UTG too only raising KQs/JTs


Ppl are pretty nitty when it comes to UTG @ rush


usually they only 3bet AA/KK vs UTG

if they call it is usually one pair trying to setmine

not hard to play from UTg really
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12-27-2012 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pigmalion
are you playing SC (56s+) from UTG in zoom/rush?

yes, no, some of them, depends by the stake...?!?

if yes, are you doing it randomnly just for balancing your range? Or, are you looking up who is ahead of you and their 3bet%?

thx
Probably not as low as that. Will raise 89,T9, JTs if there are fish in the blinds and im not likely to get 3bet.
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12-27-2012 , 11:39 PM
Kinda feel sorry for these guys since it was probably their case money.

    Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15163601

    UTG: $3.90 (78 bb)
    Hero (MP): $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $1.95 (39 bb)
    BTN: $8.73 (174.6 bb)
    SB: $5.55 (111 bb)
    BB: $12.83 (256.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
    UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.37, 4 folds, UTG raises to $3.90 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.53

    Flop: ($7.87) Q J T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: ($7.87) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($7.87) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $7.87 pot ($0.52 rake)
    Final Board: Q J T 6 9
    UTG showed 9 8 and lost (-$3.90 net)
    Hero showed K K and won $7.35 ($3.45 net)



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      Full Tilt, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15163611

      SB: $9 (180 bb)
      BB: $9.44 (188.8 bb)
      UTG: $7.50 (150 bb)
      Hero (MP): $11.45 (229 bb)
      CO: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
      BTN: $1.24 (24.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A Q
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO folds, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.37) T 8 Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.25, BTN raises to $1.09 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.84

      Turn: ($2.55) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($2.55) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $2.55 pot ($0.17 rake)
      Final Board: T 8 Q J K
      Hero showed A Q and won $2.38 ($1.14 net)
      BTN showed J 9 and lost (-$1.24 net)



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      Is river shove fine? I don't see him folding 2p+, definitely not sets or a 5 at least. Am possibly owning myself if he shows up with 910, but not B/Fing anyhow.


      UTG: $8.99 (179.8 bb)
      MP: $5.42 (108.4 bb)
      CO: $6.71 (134.2 bb)
      BTN: $5.50 (110 bb)
      Hero (SB): $5.72 (114.4 bb)
      BB: $4.71 (94.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 A
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: ($0.30) 7 J 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

      Turn: ($0.70) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.45

      River: ($2.50) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.47 and is all-in, BB calls $3.46 and is all-in
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      12-28-2012 , 12:54 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by Frostyice
      I appreciate your concern, but I don't feel like I'm not bluffing enough, I think I'm actually bluffing too much :|
      I'm surprised you link that cotw, then say something like that.
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      12-28-2012 , 05:03 AM
      ^^river shove is fine if he's calling, right!
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      12-28-2012 , 06:09 AM
      Does Zoom have less rake than Rush?
      I know that FTP is bad for grinding micros.
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      12-28-2012 , 06:20 AM
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      Originally Posted by Frostyice


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      This is the last 2 Month actually, I'm running better this month than last though

      I think it's because of the HEM version mumbo jumbo I can't acess my hands I have played in 2009 on FT @ 5nl Rush

      Also can't access my 500k+ hands at PS 5NL Zoom

      I'm running at -1bb/100 at 5NL rush over 73k hands

      Mainly because I get rake raped

      I paid 328$ in rake over 73k hands and thanks to the 20% rakeback from Platinum I'm actually running at +EV

      I'm just sticking around to FT till I finish all of my bonus, the 125$ from Iron Man Mid Year, and now the 400$ DMI Bonus while playing around Breakeven in that time (also I have some xmas bonus waiting for me too)

      the 6.7% rake at 5nl/10nl rush is just way too high
      RE Rake:

      How the hell do you guys pay so much in rake? At 10NL zoom (6max), over the last 18.5k hands, Ive payed only $109 in rake... How the hell do I pay significantly less rake than you guys??
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