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May all your doomswitches be turned off and run good against everyone.

p.s. I think I was tilt/spewing yesterday, alright if I ever continue after a 3 BI downswing without taking a break I'm gonna punish myself by regging to 3 9man limit 1.50 sngs.

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12-25-2012 , 11:46 AM

#8252

Fishtankz

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I decided to take shots at 5nl via 20€ free ticket at FTP and also at PS. My ticket lost half of its value but ended up winning a bit at pokerstars. Still did quite well in terms of EV.

Here are some hands:
Hand 1: Is 4bet PF not convincing enough that i have a big PP?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15144961

Hero (SB): $6.24 (124.8 bb)
BB: $3.72 (74.4 bb)
UTG+1: $4.50 (90 bb)
UTG+2: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
MP1: $2 (40 bb)
MP2: $2.70 (54 bb)
MP3: $3.74 (74.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $8.79 (175.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, MP3 raises to $0.52, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.68

Flop: ($2.60) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.55, MP3 calls $2.54 and is all-in

Turn: ($7.68) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($7.68) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Hand 2: MUBS or was calling the right choice?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15144971

BTN: $8.27 (165.4 bb)
SB: $4.95 (99 bb)
BB: $5.20 (104 bb)
UTG+1: $4.97 (99.4 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $5 (100 bb)
MP1: $4.28 (85.6 bb)
MP2: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
MP3: $5.10 (102 bb)
CO: $2.34 (46.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.67) 2

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($1.67) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

River: ($3.27) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

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Hand 3: AK problems. At the turn i was thinking that i could win the hand by playing aggressively. But too many hands could beat me also.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15144981

BB: $1.51 (30.2 bb)
UTG+1: $5.98 (119.6 bb)
UTG+2: $3.47 (69.4 bb)
MP1: $2.16 (43.2 bb)
Hero (MP2): $3.51 (70.2 bb)
MP3: $2.54 (50.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
SB: $2.11 (42.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.27) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.15, BTN raises to $4.33 and is all-in, Hero folds

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Hand 4: Not sure if i gave my opponent too much credit, or was folding jacks here ok?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15144991

BTN: $2.19 (43.8 bb)
SB: $6.61 (132.2 bb)
BB: $4.64 (92.8 bb)
UTG+1: $6.39 (127.8 bb)
UTG+2: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
MP1: $6.82 (136.4 bb)
MP2: $2.23 (44.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): $5.70 (114 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.20, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.47) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.27) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $1.80, Hero folds

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12-25-2012 , 01:33 PM

#8253

chad0x001

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KK hand - why no bet turn??

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12-25-2012 , 01:55 PM

#8254

OppositeAttract

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Happy holidays to all. Does anyone celebrate Kwanzaa? Just trying to find out more about this often over looked holiday.

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12-25-2012 , 01:59 PM

#8255

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KK: Bet turn. X/C makes no sense. He has no bluffs, anything that does bet, calls and you give him the chance to check back with a 9 - especially a weak 9.

Hand 3: Why are you 70bb deep?

What is with this flop and turn sizing?? Far too big for a flop that you have little to no FE on. If your trying to "pick up the pot" a standard 60% PSB will do the job.

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12-25-2012 , 02:15 PM

#8256

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My bro got me a 6mth sub to Dueces Cracked for xmas. Watch out f***ers, I'm coming for you!

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12-25-2012 , 03:58 PM

#8257

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thats a ****ing awesome present mate, nice one!

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12-25-2012 , 04:26 PM

#8258

oop u mad

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Originally Posted by Frostyice

Silverstar is something like 12% while gold is 15% I think?

I think the platinum was 20% and Diamond 25%

I think supernova @ PS is 27%?

Still the rake is pretty damn high in the micros at FTP so you're paying 6.7% rake and getting 20% back of it

Now if you look at PS 2NL you pay 3.5% rake so even if you get 12% back as silverstar you'll have more money than paying 6.7% rake and getting 1.3% back for 5.4% rake

So it's cheaper to play on Pokerstars even getting 1/3 of the rakeback from FTP

It's only worth playing on FTP if you have 25% rakeback and play 25NL or higher as the rake is getting capped more often

But if you play a lot of 25NL you might want to consider switching to PS for the SN next year soo

Thanks for reply & info

Merry xmas.

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12-25-2012 , 04:37 PM

#8259

khangura175

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MERRRYXMAS

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12-25-2012 , 04:46 PM

#8260

shinamobabi1

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Originally Posted by Dunna100

Personally I used 20BIs up to 25nl, then 30BIs beyond that (only got as far as 50nl)

It just has to be what you're comfortable at and can play your A game without worrying about the money.

Set a stoploss for the session, and for when you MUST move back down and stick to it.

I agree with Dunna, I would say 20-30 BI for up to 25nl.

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12-25-2012 , 05:09 PM

#8261

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Originally Posted by GutshotDan92

KK: Bet turn. X/C makes no sense. He has no bluffs, anything that does bet, calls and you give him the chance to check back with a 9 - especially a weak 9.

Since it's rush, i just felt that he had me beat with a set. If it was full ring, i would be happy to go broke on that hand. I decided to minimize dmg and just check/call. But i am being extremely results oriented again. Like hand 1, i don't like the hand he called all-in with. I represent AA/KK and he calls with pocket tens.

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Hand 3: Why are you 70bb deep?

What is with this flop and turn sizing?? Far too big for a flop that you have little to no FE on. If your trying to "pick up the pot" a standard 60% PSB will do the job.

Was my first day at FTP. They offered me a "Bet pot"-button, but i think i'm gonna set it to 80%. Also didn't get auto-reload to work yet.

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12-25-2012 , 05:10 PM

#8262

Frostyice

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I'm feelin comfy with 30BI for rush/zoom atm so ye

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12-25-2012 , 05:26 PM

#8263

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thoughts on the flop please no info

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15145191

BTN: $3.49 (174.5 bb)
SB: $2.58 (129 bb)
BB: $1.25 (62.5 bb)
UTG: $1.92 (96 bb)
Hero (MP): $2.05 (102.5 bb)
CO: $2.78 (139 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.76 and is all-in

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12-25-2012 , 05:27 PM

#8264

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Originally Posted by Dunna100

My bro got me a 6mth sub to Dueces Cracked for xmas. Watch out f***ers, I'm coming for you!

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12-25-2012 , 05:29 PM

#8265

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Originally Posted by chad0x001

thoughts on the flop please no info

UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.76 and is all-in

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Just call his shove chad, can't and shouldn't fold now. If he has it, cooler

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12-25-2012 , 05:31 PM

#8266

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Originally Posted by chad0x001

thoughts on the flop please no info

UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.76 and is all-in

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personally I'd say this is a fold analyzing it, but in that position I'd call just cause its aces and "it's only 2NL". regs at 2nl tend to do stuff which make me go "wtf did he just do", shoving with TPNK, middle PPs, and nonsensical hands. he def has QQ,KK, or a set imho.

if you don't mind a few dorrars call, if its a notable chunk of your BR I'd say fold.

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12-25-2012 , 05:36 PM

#8267

Big_Mick00

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Originally Posted by Dunna100

My bro got me a 6mth sub to Dueces Cracked for xmas. Watch out f***ers, I'm coming for you!

Watch all wiltontilt and jk3a vids. Inavacuum is good aswel

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12-25-2012 , 05:45 PM

#8268

chad0x001

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dillchips, what analysis did you do to make you think that its probably a fold?

and Dunna, why *should* I call here?

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12-25-2012 , 05:56 PM

#8269

Dunna100

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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00

Watch all wiltontilt and jk3a vids. Inavacuum is good aswel

Thanks, actually just started watching Coaching Kristy as found a post ages ago saying that was a good series

Chad - the only info we have is he's not full stacked right? Yes he may have a set, but that's like 11% chance i think, so there is waaay more chance he does this with Jx or overpairs
Yes, normally we can fold to aggression at the micros cox players don't bluff much, but you know as well as I do that at this level they also view TP or overpairs as the nuts.

You also have to put about $1.30 into bout $2.60, so with those odds I think you gotta go for it

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12-25-2012 , 06:05 PM

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Lol, as if by magic balugawhale just says about the magic number being 2:1 if the villain has any width to their range, so there's your answer chad i guess!

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12-25-2012 , 06:14 PM

#8271

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I figured he isnt auto topping up so he probably isnt very good. maybe he donked the min to induce a shove? but I have 2:1 so CALL!

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15145281

BTN: $3.49 (174.5 bb)
SB: $2.58 (129 bb)
BB: $1.25 (62.5 bb)
UTG: $1.92 (96 bb)
Hero (MP): $2.05 (102.5 bb)
CO: $2.78 (139 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

UTG raises to $0.04, Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.50) 6

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.36

Turn: ($4.02) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($4.02) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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12-25-2012 , 06:20 PM

#8272

Dunna100

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Damn, i love it when I'm right

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12-25-2012 , 06:28 PM

#8273

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I lol'ed. WTF is this guy doing?

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15145301

BTN: $6.97 (348.5 bb)
SB: $2.37 (118.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $2 (100 bb)
UTG: $2.33 (116.5 bb)
MP: $4.15 (207.5 bb)
CO: $0.70 (35 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.26, SB folds, Hero calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.53) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.68, Hero calls $0.68

Turn: ($1.89) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.06 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.06

River: ($4.01) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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