Wow, really? I just couldnt figure with what worse they can do it with, probably my reviewing skills sux.

Is there really no place in micros to fold lowest set without obvious draw hitting?

if you cant get it in with bottom set. the games are seriously dead

i dont know what you mean by obvious draw hitting?

and there are spots but this is not one of them, and there arent many..

U actually think he only gets in 66/KK and nothing else on that flop? Lol

he doesnt even have KK

66 is my first thought after he goes donk/minraise but yeah I guess you are right there is some other hands in his range too, now, if you could look at page 342 first post and tell me what you think about that spot, I would be grateful

you are doing it wrong.

I'm having 100post/page usually so can't really tell the page numbers you're talking about

But there's a post#ID on the upper right corner on every post you can even link them

Also I'm no big fan of 4betting IP against resteals, rather have them shoot at me for 1 more bet on the flop or turn and float them

another 12 buyin downswing. Poker does my head in.



Completely standard right? I keep getting my money in good and getting done in. A year along the line from starting to learn and I still cant beat 2nl or 5nl. I thought BQ would give me what I needed to beat these limits, unfortunately it cant dispense run good. 12 buyins down in 2 or 3 sessions. Gutted. Anyone got any kind words to cheer me up?

ahhh.. maybe dont minbet 4bet after minbet3bet?

have you posted stats, artysmokes is really great at help uNL players and helped me when i was playing 2nl earlier this year.

if you have standard stats, then maybe you have mental game issues. i was breakeven/losing at 2nl for like 120k hands and now im winning at 10nl at 6bb/100. theres really no secret but honestly i never had a 12buyin downswing at those stakes, its possible and im not saying your not getting unlucky but maybe you have some tilt issues to address.

mate, all in pre 5 x with Aces - vs JJ, JJ, JJ, QQ, QQ = 5 losses. This hand above, the one before that with the AA vs TT and a few set vs straight or flush hands. No tilt issues there, just a solid run of terrible luck. I havent gone RIGHT, IM ANGRY ! (Shove) or anything like that. If it gets me down to lose lose lose, I just sit out for a bit til I feel chipper again.

if your ONLY losing from getting it good and players sucking out on you, then you should really have nothing to worry about. the money will come back to you, if your good enough.

I knew someone would sy that I know its true that if you are getting it in good, you will win (mostly) it just doesnt seem like that at the moment. And another thing, I never win 12 Buyins in a day or two by being on the right side of variance, *ever* so how come I lose 8-12 buyins regularly when Im all in ahead? Can anyon show me a nice 8-12 buyins won in a session or two graph please? Just to show me that it can in fact happen..

i cant show you a graph or anything, but its possible. honestly chad, i feel like you dont really understand the impact of psychology has on our game. you might have all the fundamentals down, but lack this very important aspect. you shouldnt ever be thinking that poker owes you anything. you should really take a look into your mental game instead of just assuming theres nothing wrong with it, by just the way you talk about variance i know that theres something wrong with it. GL bud

What he said. I tried 5NL and 10NL zoom, and couldnt beat it. Its a NIGHTMARE, a mish mash of ABC wannabees, nutters, and chOObs.

I am now playing 50NL zoom and im winning so far (only about 3000 hands in, but im winning), and the reason im winning I think is because I have sat back and realised my weaknesses, and am addressing them. Specifically playing with a non winning mindset. Its zoom poker, people are getting out of line all the time, its about the cards 50% of the time, and 50% of the time it has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

I dont have a 12 buy in upswing to show you because they mostly dont happen, and also, I havent had anything more than a two buy in down swing, because I dont allow it to happen> Avoid marginal situations, and avoid going all in with AK, and you will be fine!

POSITIVE MINDSET. REALLY THINK YOU CAN WIN. WILL YOURSLEF TO WIN. Half the battle is then done.

Or just give up, go out, and enjoy the sun...it really is a lot of hassle all said and done eh!

C

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Though I doubt that you're getting it in good for 12BI and just lose,

Post a screenshot of your BB lost >30 hands and we'll take a look

Maybe ur cutting ur winning sessions short and extending ur losing sessions.. Prob better to do the opposite

oh and

Last 5 >30BB pots..

Think
1 is fine, although I'd prefer a bigger size preflop against such a small stack(although I don't like 4betting IP this is a good spot to do it because he's minraising and he's not fully stacked likely to make big expensive mistakes postflop and preflop)
2 is a fold preflop, he has to open shove WORSE than AK, like AQ 100bb deep to make this +EV
3 is a call on the turn, there's no reason to ship it here as you'll make him fold all bluffs and I don't see many worse hands calling (MAYBE AQ). I'd call and call river too
4 is a fold on the river at least, it's likely that he's minraising his overpair-ish kind of hands as a semibluff and once he's x/ring you twice it's unlikely that all his medium-pair hands have missed and that he's bluffing I'd call turn maybe and consider folding the river as he's having TT-QQ most of the time here
5 is a fold preflop, I don't see him 3betting you so big with worse than 66, and I don't see him haveing a big enough stack to setmine profitably, shipping the flop is fine though as you'll have 10 outs or ~40% usually
6 I would call rather than cold-4bet, because BTN seems to like his hand by opening 7xbb and SB seems to like his hand too and after him 3betting to a 4bet size of 21 I'm not too concerned about getting it in, I'm just hopeing if I call that BTN starts going nuts and SB calls and I can pick up both their stacks

Hand 1: standard, really hard to get away from; not much you can do.

Hand 2: Horrible horrible raise by him, and a horrible call by you. AK is ace high. People who go all in like that are usually holding KK+, its an awful hand all round. Im never calling there unless I have KK+.

Hand 3: Again, an awful hand by you. What are you beating when the turn hits? Any jack beats you, which is a huge part of his calling range, and there is a flush draw out there as well. You knew you were beat come the river.

Hand 4: A tough one, the check raise on the turn should have alarm bells ringing, but its hard to fold AA. Ask yourself...would he be check raising the turn with the hands you beat??...namely QQ and KK and JJ? Unlikely.

Hand 5: I know you had the best hand on the flop, and i know YOU KNEW, but check calling it down might have allowed you to get away from it. Shoving all in isnt the way to go here in my opinion.

C

Grinded through some tilt issues early @ 5nl. Started to 3 bet a wide range and less junk.




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inb4 variance?

h1: the min4bet is just ******ed, otherwise played fine
h2: whatever
h3: what are you doing? just 4bet your hand pre, and i dont really understand what goes through your head when you jam turn
h4: we have discussed, i just fold turn
h5: fold pre
h6: ul

im guessing you most likely have a lot of preflop issues which likely results in a lot of mistakes postflop


and good job frosty, keep it up

Dam Frosty, how many hands do you play each week?

Hopefully ill go on a 12 buy in upswing...I havent had one yet.

I play around 33k hands per week, Sunday was special because I noticed soo many weak players so I extended my sessions a bit