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09-12-2012 , 08:47 PM
^^

c/f river,
c/f turn,

yeh you can have FH and quads, but why arnt you thinking about what hes repping? he reps FH/quads/str8 pretty well aswell which he isnt foldin...
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09-12-2012 , 09:19 PM
Thanks for confirming guys. I got into a mindset of "I'd play 77/66/56/55 this way, and I have them more often than him because he's playing passively". But the most obvious line is definitely the best in this case. And I think he only really has quads or air here, as his raise looks pretty FOS, unless he chose to flat flop with sets and got scared on turn. Which I'm beginning to think is likely.
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09-13-2012 , 07:12 AM
he can easily have fh, no real reason to raise a set otf.
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09-13-2012 , 07:55 AM
Is it just a fold on the river? Should I be betting more on each street? guy is 38/13 over only 9 hands but Im pretty confident that anyone with a 25 point gap between pfr and vpip is probably NOT going to fold any part of it. I suspect I should just go pot pot SHOVE. But not sure.

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13906142

    BTN: $5 (100 bb)
    SB: $5.91 (118.2 bb)
    BB: $4.53 (90.6 bb)
    Hero (UTG): $6.52 (130.4 bb)
    MP: $2.79 (55.8 bb)
    CO: $3.04 (60.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q Q
    Hero raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 4 folds

    Flop: ($0.37) 3 2 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.25, MP calls $0.25

    Turn: ($0.87) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.58, MP calls $0.58

    River: ($2.03) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $1.81 and is all-in



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    I have to fold there, right?
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    09-13-2012 , 08:36 AM
    ^^ Bet a bit bigger otf and ott, no need to exactly pot it against a shortie. Shove river.

    As played, I think it's a close call. Villian can shove worse overpairs and you're getting almost 2:1.
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    09-13-2012 , 08:58 AM
    I am new here, and I have some hands that I need help with


    villan is unknown
      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $13.92 (278.4 bb)
      SB: $6.20 (124 bb)
      Hero (BB): $8.71 (174.2 bb)
      UTG: $4.90 (98 bb)
      MP: $4.79 (95.8 bb)
      CO: $11.68 (233.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J T
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.13, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.08

      Flop: ($0.28) K 6 Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.10, CO raises to $0.42, Hero calls $0.32

      Turn: ($1.12) K (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.64, Hero raises to $1.28, CO calls $0.64

      River: ($3.68) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.58, CO raises to $8.27, Hero calls $5.30 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $17.44 pot ($0.72 rake)
      Final Board: K 6 Q K T
      Hero showed J T and lost (-$8.71 net)
      CO showed Q K and won $16.72 ($8.01 net)


      ___________
      unknown too


        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        BTN: $2.79 (55.8 bb)
        Hero (SB): $13.92 (278.4 bb)
        BB: $3.46 (69.2 bb)
        UTG: $4.58 (91.6 bb)
        MP: $4.40 (88 bb)
        CO: $13.79 (275.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
        3 folds, BTN raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, BTN calls $0.31

        Flop: ($0.95) 4 Q J (2 players)
        Hero bets $0.40, BTN raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.80, BTN calls $1.54 and is all-in

        Turn: ($5.63) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($5.63) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $5.63 pot ($0.23 rake)
        Final Board: 4 Q J A J
        BTN showed 4 4 and won $5.40 ($2.61 net)
        Hero showed K K and won $0.00 (-$2.79 net)
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        09-13-2012 , 09:34 AM
        Shove river yourself chad.
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        09-13-2012 , 09:35 AM
        Marko90,

        Hand one:
        Open flop bigger, Reraise flop to get value from hands like Ahx and sets.
        I'd also be more agressive on the turn, don't check there. Bit of a cooler nonetheless.

        Hand two:
        Not too much wrong. His minraise OTF would worry me a bit but he might aswell have done that with AQ
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        09-13-2012 , 09:51 AM
        What do you guys think about steal sizings?
        I use myself 3bb for BU, 3bb for SB. I heard some people use 4bb for SB because it lowers the chance the BB will loose 3b us or call with some hands.
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        09-13-2012 , 09:56 AM
        i 3x every position but btn where i minraise

        might 2.5x from all positions bt button if table if full of regs.

        but opening to 4x for value at 2nl and 5nl cant be a bad thing...
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        09-13-2012 , 10:04 AM
        i 3x from sb, 2x from button and 2.5x in every other
        thinking of going to the 2x in every position cept sb
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        09-13-2012 , 10:08 AM
        Why such low sizings?
        Do you use the same for value and steal range?
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        09-13-2012 , 10:08 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by marko90
        I am new here, and I have some hands that I need help with


        villan is unknown
          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          BTN: $13.92 (278.4 bb)
          SB: $6.20 (124 bb)
          Hero (BB): $8.71 (174.2 bb)
          UTG: $4.90 (98 bb)
          MP: $4.79 (95.8 bb)
          CO: $11.68 (233.6 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with J T
          2 folds, CO raises to $0.13, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.08

          Flop: ($0.28) K 6 Q (2 players)
          Hero bets $0.10, CO raises to $0.42, Hero calls $0.32

          Turn: ($1.12) K (2 players)
          Hero checks, CO bets $0.64, Hero raises to $1.28, CO calls $0.64

          River: ($3.68) T (2 players)
          Hero bets $1.58, CO raises to $8.27, Hero calls $5.30 and is all-in

          Spoiler:
          Results: $17.44 pot ($0.72 rake)
          Final Board: K 6 Q K T
          Hero showed J T and lost (-$8.71 net)
          CO showed Q K and won $16.72 ($8.01 net)


          ___________
          unknown too


            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            BTN: $2.79 (55.8 bb)
            Hero (SB): $13.92 (278.4 bb)
            BB: $3.46 (69.2 bb)
            UTG: $4.58 (91.6 bb)
            MP: $4.40 (88 bb)
            CO: $13.79 (275.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
            3 folds, BTN raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, BTN calls $0.31

            Flop: ($0.95) 4 Q J (2 players)
            Hero bets $0.40, BTN raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.80, BTN calls $1.54 and is all-in

            Turn: ($5.63) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: ($5.63) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $5.63 pot ($0.23 rake)
            Final Board: 4 Q J A J
            BTN showed 4 4 and won $5.40 ($2.61 net)
            Hero showed K K and won $0.00 (-$2.79 net)
            H1: Calling JTs OOP probably isnt the best idea. You need to be really tight from the blinds.
            As played either donk much larger ($0.20-.25) or check raise. You should be trying to get it in on the flop with the second nuts so when he raises you 3bet him 2.5x or 3x. The turn brings one of the worst cards in the deck so you need to slow down now. If you raise your (mostly)only being called by better. Call turn and check call river IMO.

            H2: raise slightly more pre. Your OOP so around 3.5x should be your standard. On the flop you need to bet LARGER. You have an overpair on a really drawy board. You need to get value from worse hands and you arent doing that by betting $.40. Around 75-80c is a better size. And im aslo probably getting it in vs his min raise aswel.

            To sum up be very careful about raising hands that cant be called by worse and work on your bet sizing.
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            09-13-2012 , 10:22 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Grigo.
            Why such low sizings?
            Do you use the same for value and steal range?
            theorically it should be the same sizing, although if a couple of unknowns/fish are in the blinds and i've got a value hand i'll just make it 3x instead of my usual 2x

            2x generally gets a similar amount of folds to 3x so it's a cheaper bluff essentially
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            09-13-2012 , 10:32 AM
            Is it?
            I thought it may force people to think like "uhmmm small raise, he must bluff steal, I gotta 3b him! or at least call for small price"

            Last edited by Grigo.; 09-13-2012 at 10:39 AM.
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            09-13-2012 , 10:47 AM
            cause you insta profit with 2x otb and that doesnt take into the account the time you cbet as well
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            09-13-2012 , 10:55 AM
            if you play enough, you will be able to make notes on opponents blind tendencies. Do they have auto fold selected? = NOTE = Steal 2x (rather than 2.5x or 3x because why would you pay more when you are on a steal ?)

            otherwise, 3x from all positions, 2.5x from btn and sb if folded to. I will definitely open bigger vs fish (and bet more on each street post as well)
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            09-13-2012 , 11:28 AM
            Just saw about Full Tilt reopening on 9th November. I wonder where it will be legal. This could be so epic. I wonder if we'll get out FTP's back? hahahahaha please?
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            09-13-2012 , 11:29 AM
            haha yeah i miss full tilt so much... how many points u got on there chad? i got like 50k
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            09-13-2012 , 11:35 AM
            honestly, I think about 7k? something like that. I was saving up for a snakeskin hat or something. Now, Id use it to get FT$ and play NL cash games.

            If the US is allowed onto Full Tilt (and I presume Stars) it would be like a dream come true.
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            09-13-2012 , 11:37 AM
            i read the date was 6th. Pokerfuse.com says its the 6th and the emails player are getting say the 6th.

            http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=903
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            09-13-2012 , 11:47 AM
            either or i miss my dog avatar and the quirky software.... its just much better than stars... and tableninja for FT! if they stop having support for table ninja for FT im never ever going to buy a HEM product/software EVER AGAIN
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            09-13-2012 , 01:46 PM
            Question about nl2 nl 5 6max;
            how much is your turn cbet , how much is your attempt to steal?
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            09-13-2012 , 02:18 PM
            around 57% ATS esp high from BTN with 67% and from SB with 68%

            There are a lot villains at 2nl 6max Zoom that are willing to give up their BB without a fight

            Turn cbet of 60%, I'm almost always double barreling if I decide to cbet the flop.
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            09-13-2012 , 02:31 PM
            And what sizings do you use for double barrel? 50% PSB both streets or different ones?
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