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08-11-2012 , 06:40 AM
Khangura: HP owns Compaq. So they are the same machines with a different badge on. Hell, Ive used them for years but the most recent models are full of manufacturing errors. ANYWAY. 8 BI up day before yesterday, level yesterday. Today, I kill em all!

Does anyone know how to view *ALL* hands played vs players on HEM? I find a hand played against Mr.X replay it and I can see that I played 15 hands with him. When I go to players and search him up, it only has 2 hands.
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08-11-2012 , 06:50 AM
Well switched back to 6-max today as I feel I have to learn to beat it to be able to move up properly and I seem to be able to do it with limit and plo so I don't see how I fail at NL. Went good, played a lot looser though still not 3-betting enough, running 24/18/3.2....the VPIP will come down to around 21 soon enough, I was too loose initially, and learnt my lesson getting down 2.5bi to start the session lol.

Hand 1: Villain is 60/30/16.7 over only 10 hands but I didn't pay attention to that in this hand. Now that I see how much he 3b's I'm more inclined to see this hand as a c/c than a b/f. I don't see him turning nut flush into a bluff in this spot but if he's a maniac then a bluff is certainly in his range and I likely get more value from letting him bet and calling $1.40 than having to fold after putting it into the pot

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $10 (100 bb)
    Hero (SB): $10.25 (102.5 bb)
    BB: $9.62 (96.2 bb)
    UTG: $11.54 (115.4 bb)
    MP: $11.75 (117.5 bb)
    CO: $10.05 (100.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with T 8
    4 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, BB calls $0.15

    Flop: ($0.50) 7 J J (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

    Turn: ($1.20) 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

    River: ($1.80) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.40, BB raises to $3.40, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $4.60 pot ($0.21 rake)
    Final Board: 7 J J 8 8
    Hero mucked T 8 and lost (-$2.30 net)
    BB mucked and won $4.39 ($2.09 net)


    Hand 2: CO is 23/18/6.7 over only 57 hands. I just called the shorties shove as I wanted to keep CO in the hand or induce him to shove to force my dead money out pre. I'm not sure I really like my turn play though, I checked behind with the intention of hoping to induce a bluff and then when he shoved I hated life as a lot of Jx hands are in his range I think, though not so much JJ imo. I think this call could actually be a leak long-term as how often does he shove here without a J? In terms of flop bet-sizing I was again hoping to induce a shove by betting a slightly weakish amount, usually I'd bet around $5.50

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BTN: $2.50 (25 bb)
      SB: $11.33 (113.3 bb)
      BB: $10 (100 bb)
      UTG: $32 (320 bb)
      Hero (MP): $15.81 (158.1 bb)
      CO: $18.50 (185 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.25, CO raises to $0.70, BTN raises to $2.50 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.25, CO calls $1.80

      Flop: ($7.65) J 3 4 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      Hero bets $3.80, CO calls $3.80

      Turn: ($15.25) J (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      Hero checks, CO bets $12.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $9.51

      River: ($34.27) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $34.27 pot ($1.50 rake)
      Final Board: J 3 4 J 2
      BTN mucked 7 7 and lost (-$2.50 net)
      Hero showed A A and won $32.77 ($16.96 net)
      CO mucked 9 9 and won $0.00 (-$15.81 net)


      Hand 3: Villain is 40/30/50 over only 10 hands. I only called the 3b as I'm IP and the guy has maniac stats, I don't want to blow him off his likely air or have to decide if this time he has it if he 5b/shoves my 4b. On the flop it's no decision that I have to just call behind here but on the turn is raising the best option against this kind of player? I'm not really getting called by much worse in this spot but we really need to build a pot here to get it in by the river if he does have something like KK/AQ...this was the reasoning behind my almost min-bet, to see if he has something to continue with and hope to build a pot as well as appear weak and get shoved on hopefully.

        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        BTN: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
        SB: $6.95 (69.5 bb)
        BB: $19.14 (191.4 bb)
        UTG: $10 (100 bb)
        Hero (MP): $14.29 (142.9 bb)
        CO: $12.02 (120.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is MP with A K
        UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.25, 3 folds, BB raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.45

        Flop: ($1.45) A A K (2 players)
        BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

        Turn: ($3.05) 6 (2 players)
        BB bets $2.18, Hero raises to $4.80, BB raises to $14.18, Hero calls $7.99 and is all-in

        River: ($28.63) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $28.63 pot ($1.29 rake)
        Final Board: A A K 6 A
        BB showed 6 6 and lost (-$14.29 net)
        Hero showed A K and won $27.34 ($13.05 net)
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        08-11-2012 , 07:20 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
        cut down you tables and stop auto piloting
        I'm not autopiloting (except for 85% of hands I'm autofolding)

        I'm paying attention to their stats, I'm esp. picky at 10NL with the steals because they're 3betting kind of light so I'm only stealing @>80 FTS

        Also defending lighter against >10% restealers in the blinds from LP/CO though with limited sucess /shrug
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        08-11-2012 , 07:25 AM
        You are because your playing so nitty and your wwsf is so low.

        If you playing that tight your wwsf should be alot higher and as you have a stronger range so you giving up when you miss. Also you only 3b 3% so your not defending your BTN and blinds no where near enough enough your just folding everything.

        play 4 tbles of zoom thats plenty of volume, no need to mass grind 10nl improve your game. esp if you just moved up from 5nl its way to much.
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        08-11-2012 , 09:23 AM
        W$wsf of 43.4 is low?
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        08-11-2012 , 09:39 AM
        It's on the low end of average Gould be aiming for closer to 50. It more about his strong range preflop should be able to win more pots then anything.
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        08-11-2012 , 11:47 AM
        Guys, in need of help from those I can trust.

        Please explain gently where I went wrong here.

        Villain is 80/0 but only over 4 hands so no reads/etc

          Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13706542

          BTN: $31.68 (126.7 bb)
          SB: $29.95 (119.8 bb)
          Hero (BB): $30.69 (122.8 bb)
          UTG: $22.35 (89.4 bb)
          MP: $10.78 (43.1 bb)
          CO: $23.73 (94.9 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
          3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN calls $1.75

          Flop: ($5.10) 6 8 5 (2 players)
          Hero bets $3.25, BTN calls $3.25

          Turn: ($11.60) T (2 players)
          Hero bets $6.75, BTN calls $6.75

          River: ($25.10) Q (2 players)
          Hero bets $18.19 and is all-in, BTN calls $18.19




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          08-11-2012 , 12:08 PM
          On the river :

          - worse hands than Yours that call :

          - better hands than Yours that fold :
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          08-11-2012 , 12:16 PM
          I don't like the shove on the river because villain has called down our flop and turn c-bet and isn't playing back and will only call with better on river. 88 TT QQ KK AA, AdTd-AdKd.
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          08-11-2012 , 12:49 PM
          Ch/fold or bet/fold river - or would you play it differently before that?
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          08-11-2012 , 01:07 PM
          I would not be trying to get 3 streets with JJ vs this guy.
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          08-11-2012 , 01:12 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by chad0x00
          I would not be trying to get 3 streets with JJ vs this guy.
          Why is that?
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          08-11-2012 , 01:13 PM
          Why not? 80/0 after 5 hands definitely suggests he is on the way to being a fish. I still haven't decided if I shove the river vs this guy, if the flush didn't hit I'd be shoving without a doubt but it's pretty close imo.
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          08-11-2012 , 01:30 PM
          Im not trying to get three streets because JJ is "just a pair" and not even the toppest pair - on this board.
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          08-11-2012 , 01:37 PM
          I wouldnt rely on that sample size.. Only 5hands he could've jus got a pp in a couple of those and a decent flatting hand in the other 2
          He's unknown

          So vs unknown I'd c/f that river as played

          If the river bricked off, lean towards c/c because of the high amount of missed draws and I'm not sure he will call another river bet because it's hard for him to have a big hand there by river
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          08-11-2012 , 01:43 PM
          It's prolly too thin on the river, but jamming can't be too bad, and arguably best w/ some reads.

          Chad he doesn't have much Qx in his range, so JJ= top pair
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          08-11-2012 , 01:44 PM
          FWIW he had 65

          So altho he snapped it off otr, i think that's a pretty big call with that hand tbh
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          08-11-2012 , 01:47 PM
          eeh, if you expect him to fold 65 there then the shove is very bad.

          Chad, pairs are pretty good in 3-bet pots. And villain have very few Qs in his range on the river.
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          08-11-2012 , 01:51 PM
          Well I guess he was a fish, worst call ever on flop..
          River not surprised he called cuz he's a fishlet he doesn't care about ur hand
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          08-11-2012 , 01:51 PM
          What aert said. and he should not fold 2 pair nor should you expect him to fold 2 pair
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          08-11-2012 , 02:10 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Krumb Snatcha
          What aert said. and he should not fold 2 pair nor should you expect him to fold 2 pair
          Nope, and i don't. I was just surprised at how quickly he snapped it off without thinking
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          08-11-2012 , 02:10 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by khangura175
          Well I guess he was a fish, worst call ever on flop..
          River not surprised he called cuz he's a fishlet he doesn't care about ur hand
          flop call seems ok to me. There are some turn cards that will kill some action, but allowing hero to hit a pair or bluff a lot of scare cards seems like a reasonable strat.
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          08-11-2012 , 02:15 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by khangura175
          Well I guess he was a fish, worst call ever on flop..
          River not surprised he called cuz he's a fishlet he doesn't care about ur hand
          Flop call looks fine depending on heros tendencies

          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Dunna100
          Nope, and i don't. I was just surprised at how quickly he snapped it off without thinking
          eh, again he is clearly ahead of your shoving range if you are shoving JJ there. It's pretty hard for him to put you on a range he doesn't have 24% equity against so I don't know why he shouldn't snap call.
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          08-11-2012 , 02:22 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by Dunna100
          Nope, and i don't. I was just surprised at how quickly he snapped it off without thinking
          Yea, I didn't really expect you to think that, but his snap call makes sense to me. If you can value bet JJ, KK, AA, that's 18 combos right there. You will need 36+ combos of hands that beat 2 pair for him to fold. You will have QQ, TT, some amount of 2 pair and some amount of flushes, but it is very unlikely that it will add up to 36+ combos.
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          08-11-2012 , 02:23 PM
          opponent thinks "I HAS TWO PAIR!!" and then lets you valuetown yourself.
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