So Ive DL and install PT4 - It is ONLY telling me my Zoom hands/;stats which is a bit weird, how can I get it to show the other stuff, tournies etc?

Also, is it configured right off the bat to HUD zoom or do I have to do stuff to it? How do I start the HUD?

Found it

configure>site and import options> pokerstars>[x] enable zoom hud


yes, his 75o play worked this time vs me. sure. but over time, he must lose money here with this hand. he cannot hit often enough to make it +ev

I'm loving zoom in the same way I loved rush, it just suits my temperament more for some reason. Prior to zoom I had dropped down to 5NL due to a downswing at 10 and getting below 25bi's with this "get my game back" plan that I had started after losing confidence in it post BF. I had a small upswing at 5NL at the start of the month and then lost it again but after getting to zoom I can feel it coming back and I think I know why, I'm able to get masses of hands in in a short period without having to have 20 tables stacked and losing track of action in hands I am involved in. With zoom I can have 4 tables tiled nicely, keep focus on all action I am involved in but still not feel I am wasting time waiting for a new hand and I think the stats bare this out for me at least.


pre-zoom
11020 hands in 10 session
-$39.46
-7.16bb/100
20.9/16.3/1.85 4.4%3b
7.64 std dev

post-zoom
10267 hands in 6 sessions
$97.67
19.03bb/100
21.2/16.8/2.26 2.8%3b
7.66 std dev

My graph normally looks like the swiss alps but my zoom-only graph is just a steady upward climb, except for about 200 hands at the start as I readjusted to the slightly different play needed in zoom/rush. This is also without a HUD but with HEM2 downgraded to import zoom hands so I can at least keep track of things

2 fun hands that show why, at 5nl at least, people with a solid grasp should be able to profit

re re edit: No HUD showing in game. Any suggestions? The PT4 thread is about 8723 posts long, I looked but its like searching for a needle in a haystack!

Knytest - what adjustments did you make?

Looks like he started flopping well.

Supernovas rake a lot. Doesn't mean that they play well (although many of them do, of course).

The 2nd hand is weird. (Villain is drunk/stupid/Venezualan)
In the first hand though, you raise UTG with QQ and villain 3-bets you. He always has aces or kings here. If you didn't flop a set, you're losing your stack.

hahaha there is some of that but definitely changes in my game too in terms of aggression, more mindful of position and stack sizes, finding my fold button and remembering how rush/zoom is played.

My stats are really only a small sample-size, especially given how the actual stats outside of $'s aren't really that different but if I listed my position stats and things like my win/loss vs river raises or leads etc the difference would be most noticeable...as it is I can look at my graphs for the most visual proof and compare what they look like to know the adjustments outside of hitting the flop are working.

Pre-Zoom 5NL graph for this month


Post-Zoom since saturday

The second hand proves that isn't always true

In the first hand, I'm oop against a person that should usually have AA/KK/AK like 98% of the time in zoom so why am I going to play QQ any different to 22 in that spot?

If the board comes all undercards I may go broke or I may be able to c/c until I know I'm beat. If the flop comes A or K then I can get away from my hand and if I hit my set them I'm likely stacking villain.

There is no way I am ever shoving QQ OOP without a read at Zoom and am purely going to set-mine with them so I don't mind my play tbh, but the post was more about the way villains are still seeing things and what they would expect my range is there with the massive overshove.

I don't think you have quite the right odds to set-mine, even with these fairly deep stacks. If my math is correct, it's 694 to 47, which is less than 15-1. It's really close though. I'd sometimes fold to the 3-bet, and definitely do so if villain only had a standard 100bb stack. You're only gonna flop a set about 11% of the time, and 89% of the time you're likely to lose much more than just the price of calling the 3-bet. (e.g. flop comes JT8. Do you check-call or check-raise there?)

Villain's call of the check-raise is kinda spewy, but he might have you on kings or AKs yourself.

Second graph looks good. Whatever's working for you, keep doing it!

I was a dyed-in-the-wool HEM supporter. Then HEM2 came out, it was ****, weeks later it was still ****, and the last time I tried it (a week or two back I guess) it was pretty much still ****. The number of bugs is unbelievable, the core functionality that's affected by it beggars belief, and the support is pretty damn sad.

Just for kicks I went over to pokertracker.com to see the state of PT4, got to sign up for the public beta, started it, and so far I've been very impressed. Zoom HUD works fine, too. I think they may have won me over.

I had this exact same problem, you have to select 'Get Hands While Playing' - it's a box at the top of PT4. Just to the right and down a bit of 'View Stats'.

Anyone know how to move your HUD about? I have it on but it's not aligned very well and i have no idea as to how I get it under the players name. Any help?

I never played on FT, but just tried Zoom for the first time today. Got to say I love it. The Quick Fold button and the absence of all reads (my HUD doesn't work) have almost completely cured me of fancy play syndrome. I'm just playing "correctly" against a table of "unknowns" and raking it in. Lovely

It's probably fine if you know someone with an overpair will donate their whole stack when you hit... Don't overplay your pairs!

I'm quite the nit myself, but seems the mega nits have set up camp and took the fun out of zoom already

If they're all nits, and you learn how to exploit them.......
Wouldn't that make you The Zoom-God?

How do you know that?

Anyway,

1) it isn't true.

2) If true we can setmine.

Under Plrs in the lobby, if I have 4 entries do I get counted 4 times?

pitapita not as I understood it pita. Each person regardless of their tables played # is counted only once.

I think each entry is counted individually, so your 4 entries will take 4 of the 1.5k spaces available.

Try playing a LAG style at zoom, thank me later.

please elaborate.

isnt it 2k max spaces?

It was 1.5k to begin with, not sure if it has changed at all.

Janus, what makes you think your 4 seats take up 4 of the places? Im pretty sure I saw on the stars site or in their thread that each player only takes up one space regardless of how many tables they are at.