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03-20-2012 , 12:29 PM
Can't get my PT3 hud working. After installing the latest PT version my antivirus told me it removed a trojan and now PT says a file is missing. The software works fine otherwise, but there is no hud on the zoom tables. Have to investigate how to get this to work with my antivirus.

So far zoom has just been weird. Played a 300 hands session, was dealt AA twice and both times I was facing another AA. Chances for that is about 1 in 1.5 million. Luckily I didn't lose any of those hands though.
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03-20-2012 , 12:43 PM
Some of the hands I've had in zoom are definitely out of the ordinary I must admit too, however I just put it down to the fact that I'd be playing a lot more hands that I usually would do - therefore unlikely scenarios are more likely to appear.

Without zoom working for HEM2 yet, could someone speculate how many hands you'd expect to do in 2 hours of zoom?
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03-20-2012 , 12:48 PM
I'm doing roughly 250 hands per hour, per table.
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03-20-2012 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by raikkonen3
Some of the hands I've had in zoom are definitely out of the ordinary I must admit too, however I just put it down to the fact that I'd be playing a lot more hands that I usually would do - therefore unlikely scenarios are more likely to appear.

Without zoom working for HEM2 yet, could someone speculate how many hands you'd expect to do in 2 hours of zoom?
I believe zumby is right. 250 is a good average. But it depends on how tight you are, more tight, more hands... play less, get more AA KK QQ.... ez game.

I was playing only PP for some time to check if it's profitable. It is. But I played some SC and big aces as well...
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03-20-2012 , 02:13 PM
FAST FOLD is meh when tables are stacked. Other tables constantly jumping in foreground leads to misclicks.
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03-20-2012 , 02:36 PM
Zoom just seems to tilt the hell out of me, running so bad on it atm. Set over set, get it all in with a straight and freerolling the nut FD vs set on turn and board pairs on river etc etc, some very sick beats atm Just had to lol everytime I picked up KK/AA UTG and would raise to see everyone insta-fold.
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03-20-2012 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zumby
I'm doing roughly 250 hands per hour, per table.
A bit more I think.

I get about 1100 hands/hour 4 tabling.

And as for zoom being swingy, it really isn't different than what it was playing 1100 hands/hour at normal tables. I can see how it might seem swingy if people have never put in that kind of volume before but I see no difference between the two based on my subjective recollection of how 1200 hands/hour at normal tables were.
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03-20-2012 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginger78
FAST FOLD is meh when tables are stacked. Other tables constantly jumping in foreground leads to misclicks.
why would you need to stack zoom tables? Are you playing additional tables on the side as well?
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03-20-2012 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
A bit more I think.

I get about 1100 hands/hour 4 tabling.

And as for zoom being swingy, it really isn't different than what it was playing 1100 hands/hour at normal tables. I can see how it might seem swingy if people have never put in that kind of volume before but I see no difference between the two based on my subjective recollection of how 1200 hands/hour at normal tables were.
Most I ever do is 6 tables so never experienced hand rate like this before, think it's just that I am going through a bit of a downswing and it comes a lot quicker when you're on zoom (for me at least) than it would if I were just 6-tabling. normally.
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03-20-2012 , 03:08 PM
I wish I had stats, really annoying HEM hasn't got a hud.

There are a few people who seem sqz happy. I can even tell when its gonna happen, flatted AA when I thought someone would sqz but didn't happen. Not gonna try it again until I get HUD working.
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03-20-2012 , 03:12 PM
Just get the PT4 beta. It is very easy to install.
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03-20-2012 , 03:31 PM
Can't find a link for the beta. HEM2 update due any time now though so whoop-whoop.
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03-20-2012 , 03:41 PM
I downloaded the beta, my zoom graph isn't as bad as I thought. Basically been break-even for the past 3,000 hands but I had a horrible tilted session before that so I'm down 5BI on zoom atm.

Need help; can't get the HUD to work on zoom. I've clicked the 'enable HUD on zoom' but can't find anything else that should help me get it up, I remember on PT3 you had to lick import now or something to start your session, same thing here ?

Last edited by raikkonen3; 03-20-2012 at 03:51 PM.
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03-20-2012 , 04:31 PM
If you are on vista, there is a new version of PT3 out last night that fixes the HUD. Don't know about pt4.
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03-20-2012 , 10:59 PM
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG aNFluttershy ($17.12)
UTG+1 Rajkens ($9.08)
CO lifeislife01 ($26.31)
BTN hero ($2.52)
SB morena on ($24.69)
BB emcena ($11.27)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) hero is BTN J J
3 folds, hero raises to $0.20, morena on raises to $0.50, 1 fold, hero calls $0.30

Flop: 4 4 9 ($1.05, 2 players)
morena on bets $0.50, hero goes all-in $2.02, morena on calls $1.52

Turn: A ($5.09, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: Q ($5.09, 2 players, 1 all-in)
hero says "idiot"

Final Pot: $5.09
hero shows two pair, Jacks and Fours
J J
morena on shows two pair, Aces and Fours
K A

morena on wins $4.88 (net +$2.36)

hero lost $2.52


You think this guy is just calling me because he has pot odds and I'm shortstacked or what? this **** happens to me a lot
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03-20-2012 , 11:56 PM
Very standard call - He's calling you for value. And even if your range is tighter than it should be, he's getting 2.35:1 on the call ($1.52 to win $3.57). He only needs to win about 30% of the time to break-even. (less rake)

Board: 4s 4c 9d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.222% 55.10% 04.12% 105278 7878.00 { AsKc }
Hand 1: 40.778% 36.65% 04.12% 70036 7878.00 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

If you don't understand A) Why he's calling your shove and B) How to take advantage of flops like this (by shoving wide and abusing fold equity and taking your lumps when called - well, depending on reads which are obv absent) you probably shouldn't be playing short stacked.


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03-21-2012 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaf
Blah blah blah

You are an arrogant *******..
I highly reccommend that everyone and not just the poster I quoted refrain from personal attacks (both itt and in this forum in general) or else we mods may 'assist' in the refrainment process
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03-21-2012 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OziBattler
I highly reccommend that everyone and not just the poster I quoted refrain from personal attacks (both itt and in this forum in general) or else we mods may 'assist' in the refrainment process
No You :P

But in all seriousness, have you tried out zoom yet Ozi? (PS will tempt you back from party.)
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03-21-2012 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by enprinte
No You :P

But in all seriousness, have you tried out zoom yet Ozi? (PS will tempt you back from party.)
Nope but I'm going to try it soon... I'm only playing poker like once a week atm due to battlefield 3 being waaaay too much fun (except when it lags due to crappy servers for aussies) . Just don't have time or desire to play much more.

I do like my hud and being a hem user I'm kinda in a holding pattern but I probably give plo2 or the lowest stake limit game (saw yesterday the had limit zoom) a crack this weekend.

Last edited by OziBattler; 03-21-2012 at 04:26 AM.
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03-21-2012 , 04:37 AM
I wonder if there will be any action at PLO8/NLO8 if they launch! I would love to try. Doing pretty good at the NL10 SH Zoom tables, will try FR later today so I can play 8 tables
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03-21-2012 , 05:37 AM
Yesterday, I raise pre with KK. We end up getting it all in on 759T2r board - supernova villain has called my pfr with 75o and wins with two pair. Can someone please explain to me how the **** you get to be supernova making such bad plays? Call a raise OOP with 75o *on the off chance* ?? How is that not a straight losing strategy Zoom or otherwise. :/ pissed off about this hand and others like it recently, always vs supernovas who make terrible *TERRIBLE* fish like calls pre and then suck out. I expected supernova+ players to play well, not to wing it with **** most of the time and rely on gettign lucky now and then.
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03-21-2012 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chad0x00
Yesterday, I raise pre with KK. We end up getting it all in on 759T2r board - supernova villain has called my pfr with 75o and wins with two pair. Can someone please explain to me how the **** you get to be supernova making such bad plays? Call a raise OOP with 75o *on the off chance* ?? How is that not a straight losing strategy Zoom or otherwise. :/ pissed off about this hand and others like it recently, always vs supernovas who make terrible *TERRIBLE* fish like calls pre and then suck out. I expected supernova+ players to play well, not to wing it with **** most of the time and rely on gettign lucky now and then.
Supernova probably figured his implied odds for flopping w pair plus was good.... Hard to be sure without seeing all the hand details like stacks

Or maybe as others have said he is just messing round at a stake where he just doesn't care and gets a thrill for flopping big. After all is he knows that your range is tight (or asumes that by default due to supertight zoomers) and very likely a big pair then when he hits he gets paid off - not saying this makes it plus ev but u know what i mean, right?

Anyway I urge everyone to try a not treat this as a bbv style thread.
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03-21-2012 , 05:52 AM
Yh I did wonder where to post this. I'm moaning of course but there is a question there, Im worried that I am missing something that the GREAT supernova players know that I dont

As for that guy, yh you are right. I shouldnt have abused him in the first place for his stupid post. Mind you, I was just riding Mr Beers shirt tails. Tell him off, not me!
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03-21-2012 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chad0x00
Yesterday, I raise pre with KK. We end up getting it all in on 759T2r board - supernova villain has called my pfr with 75o and wins with two pair. Can someone please explain to me how the **** you get to be supernova making such bad plays? Call a raise OOP with 75o *on the off chance* ?? How is that not a straight losing strategy Zoom or otherwise. :/ pissed off about this hand and others like it recently, always vs supernovas who make terrible *TERRIBLE* fish like calls pre and then suck out. I expected supernova+ players to play well, not to wing it with **** most of the time and rely on gettign lucky now and then.
not neceseraly saying his play was bad, seemed to work vs you but some of the biggest fish are supernova... supernova means nothing about a players quality only that he pays stars lots of rake. And most good players have their status hidden i would say, with a few exceptions.

Last edited by DieHard; 03-21-2012 at 06:50 AM.
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