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Originally Posted by JollyJoker
Isn't that obvious? Their collective chance of having the best hand is less than the 80% they put in the pot, since you have a better range preflop. Pokerstove gives you 26.3% equity (range 15%) and them 18.4% each (range 50%) assuming all get to showdown.
While this is theoreticly correct its not that simple.
When you raise with the lower end of your range, and there are five callers there is a high chance one of them is above your range.
Also this is when all hands get to showdown, but most often you dont know if you have the best hand after the flop, because its like imposibel to put those kind of players on a hand. They can have anything.
The only thing you can do when you hit is to bet hard, and let it go when you dont hit anything, even you may still be ahead, but you will often fold the best hand.
Also some of the reasons for raising preflop is non existant in these kind of games.
You raise your hands, to get people to fold wich they dont do in these kinda games.
You raise your hands, to ensure the pot will be big at the river. But there is litle reason to do this when the players have no idea off how the pot size effects play. You can many times overbet the pot like 2-3 times when you hit your hand, and they will still call if they hit anything.
Anyway im not advocating that raising preflop is bad, of course it is not, in a game where people have at least a basic idea of the game.
But just dont try to play a clever game against someone who has no idea of what they are doing.