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Originally Posted by Fermion5
Sorry to bump an old thread, but i have a question and figured this would be the best place to ask.
Conventional wisdom says to cbet dry flops and check wet flops, as discussed in this thread. But isn't it also conventional wisdom to cbet less on dry flops and more on wet flops?
Doesn't this result in you being easy to read? Because you are betting 2/3 of pot on dry flops when you usually have nothing and then 3/4 to full pot size on wet flops when you have something. Even if the villain has no clue what a wet or dry flop is, just by the betsize they will be able to tell if you hit likely hit the flop or likely did not.
How do I balance my range? Or is balancing my range not even necessary at low limits like 10nl-25nl.
Also, I am also losing a lot with AK, but i'm not sure if this is expected. Seems like you have to lose a little with AK in order to get paid off with QQ, KK, AA.
Yes your ranges will definitely be unbalanced, it's not that important until you're playing mid stakes (400nl+) and even then it's not hugely important. Even if they know your ranges are unbalanced they usually won't have a hand on those dry boards to play back at you. If they start calling lighter you can double barrel frequently and if they're raising a lot then their ranges will be extremely unbalanced, unless they start raising top and middle pairs on dry boards which is pretty terrible against most players (since they're in a WA/WB situation). So you can start 3bet bluffing those boards.
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Originally Posted by johnny5000
Some of the cbets concepts ain't making sense to my beginners mindset. I play 2NL so go easy.
Don't cbet on a low flop? If the flop comes 246 its unlikely to have helped both of us..so why not fire a cbet? Also hands like KQ, AK are more likely holdings than 99-AA. Well low flops work at nanolimits..perhaps higher up they don't. But ur only representing an OP and applying some pressure.
Also cbet on A and K boards is another one. If i put JJ into my pokershove and run it on a A96 board im around a 65/35 dog. As most people call your raises with A and K combos. ~So why bet these boards? is it because if an A or K hits wit only 3left in the deck.. its even less likely they have a Ace/king in their hand?
I put this forward so you can correct my logic and tell me where i'm going wrong with the cbet. Thanks..btw the 2nd barrell is interesting and i'll certainly use that play more often if a scare card hits and my opp is weak/tight. Cheers
When we raise we're representing high cards, the classic joke of "I put him on AK" does have a lot of truth to it. Opponents will almost always call preflop with low PPs (and some people call low SCs pretty frequently as well) so that's why cbetting a low flop isn't as great.
However, since there's a lot of potential overcards, cbetting a low flop planning to double barrel any overcard becomes a very viable play and makes cbetting low flops better.
Also in your JJ hand you're in a WA/WB (way ahead way behind) situation where your opponent will very rarely fold an A if he has one and will rarely call with worse (or at least won't call multiple barrels). It's also unlikely you'll get outdrawn so giving a free card isn't the end of the world. Here checking behind will often be the best play to pot control and maybe induce some bluffs. If you were OOP it would be a lot trickier situation because there's no gaurantee it will be checked through and check calling multiple streets is really really difficult without extremely good reads. In that situation I'd just bet to try and take down the pot and keep the initiative.
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Originally Posted by Husker
With regards to double barrelling...
I've been re-reading HOC and his advice, which is contrary to some of that given here, is that you should be more inclined to double barrell when there are draws on the flop. The idea being that on a blank turn you now have a whole range of hands, drawing hands, which are liable to fold to a decent sized bet.
People are unlikely to fold draws and may not fold made hands either because they'll put you on the draw. If I was to double barrel a wet board I would almost always bet (usually a shove 100BBs deep) the river. If it's a draw card they'll fold their made hands and if it's a blank they'll fold their draws.
In fact I'd expect a double barrel on a wet board to show very little profit but the triple barrel to show a decent amount of profit.