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What's a poker site that's for sure not filled with bots? What's a poker site that's for sure not filled with bots?

02-25-2019 , 09:22 PM
I know ACR has them for sure (it's unreal) and that Ignition doesn't, but what other sites don't have bots?
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02-26-2019 , 01:38 AM
I'm going to start playing on global they look into any suspected account for botting.

Have a look at global in the internet poker section on here. Globalkimber is a mod and rep she is very helpful they're a good site so far
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02-26-2019 , 01:41 AM
pokerstars.net. pokerstars.com could have bots.
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02-26-2019 , 04:12 AM
Why are you scared about bots? If bots were any good then regs wouldn't play against them and the site in question wouldn't have any games in the first place
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02-26-2019 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Why are you scared about bots? If bots were any good then regs wouldn't play against them and the site in question wouldn't have any games in the first place
Are you saying that sites like pokerstars, partypoker, and ipoker have no bots??? Or that good bots these days are worse than most regs? Because both of these are demonstrably false.

Pokerstars has decent bot enforcement though from mentioning ignition and acr sounds like you may be American.
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02-26-2019 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Why are you scared about bots? If bots were any good then regs wouldn't play against them and the site in question wouldn't have any games in the first place
lots of mugs out there who like to gamble with the worse of it.
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02-26-2019 , 08:08 AM
I think there are bots on every site, but on some sites (e.g. Stars) most of them are found and banned fairly quickly (usually when they try to cash out significant winnings), while on others (e.g. ACR, MPN) they are apparently quite widespread.
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02-26-2019 , 02:15 PM
i know of some asian aps where there are no bots but theyre invite only *eye roll emoji*

Last edited by LordPallidan12; 02-26-2019 at 02:24 PM.
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02-26-2019 , 02:33 PM
It takes a lot of observation but bots are exploitable because they can’t make adjustments like a human. I think the fear of bots is overrated. I looked in to them pretty thoroughly. Most of the common bots (Shanky, Warbot, etc) have very simple program. It’s not as complex as most people think.

I’m sure there are self scripted bots that can be pretty good but the main bots out there play robotic and you will find exploits vs them if you correctly find one.

Some signs:

Using the same bet sizing constantly.

Aggressive betting on any street then folding to aggression without a fight.

Never showing signs of tilt after losing several hands or a bad beat.

Ridiculous inhuman patience.

THE MAIN ONE: Sitting out in similar intervals for the same amount of time. OR never sitting out for hours.

Sitting at several tables and playing 2 or 3 hands simultaneously and acting within seconds on each table.

You can reraise them in non nutted boards and they will instafold hands like TPTK to a lot of aggression.

They typically don’t semibluff. They will check call with their default programming. That can be modified though.

They don’t chat in the chat box. None of the mainstream bots have that ability.

That’s just some of things I found looking in to them.
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02-26-2019 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
It takes a lot of observation but bots are exploitable because they can’t make adjustments like a human. I think the fear of bots is overrated. I looked in to them pretty thoroughly. Most of the common bots (Shanky, Warbot, etc) have very simple program. It’s not as complex as most people think.

I’m sure there are self scripted bots that can be pretty good but the main bots out there play robotic and you will find exploits vs them if you correctly find one.

Some signs:

Using the same bet sizing constantly.

Aggressive betting on any street then folding to aggression without a fight.

Never showing signs of tilt after losing several hands or a bad beat.

Ridiculous inhuman patience.

THE MAIN ONE: Sitting out in similar intervals for the same amount of time. OR never sitting out for hours.

Sitting at several tables and playing 2 or 3 hands simultaneously and acting within seconds on each table.

You can reraise them in non nutted boards and they will instafold hands like TPTK to a lot of aggression.

They typically don’t semibluff. They will check call with their default programming. That can be modified though.

They don’t chat in the chat box. None of the mainstream bots have that ability.

That’s just some of things I found looking in to them.
wow, i might be a bot..

ive been told of bots directly programmed / linked to solvers.
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02-26-2019 , 02:52 PM
I currently play $1 to $10 STT KO on stars and if there are any bots present (I doubt it) then they are pure pish.

TBH +1 to this...

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I think the fear of bots is overrated.
but if you do fear bots, find another pastime.

TBC, not saying good bots don't exist...they probably do.

Just saying, at my game and my stakes, there are shedloads of fish, so the the odd bot or two really not gonna effect my WR.

Also, as much as I can, I dehumanise online anyway, so frankly all villains are bots to me...and most of them are losing bots. (Again, at my game and my stakes). #purerec.
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02-26-2019 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LordPallidan12
wow, i might be a bot..



ive been told of bots directly programmed / linked to solvers.


None of the ones John Q Public can buy are. They are programmed in a language called PPL (may have the initials wrong but it’s some like that). If someone has one linked to a solver they don’t have one that is easily found online and purchased. The ones I’m talking about can crush the micros because they play perfect ABC poker. They definitely aren’t hooked to solvers and would be beat at high limits. Anything hooked to a solver has to be a self built bot or found in some poker bot underworld.

The one tell I mentioned as a strong one is they are programmed to sit out occasionally to appear human and not playing 7 hours straight without going to the bathroom. The fault in the programming is in PPL language is that the sit out programmed can’t be varied. It has to be written to sit out for a set amount of time at a set interval.

If I think I’m playing a bot I’ll wait for them to sit out and time it then see how long before they sit out again. If they sit out for 5 minutes every hour or something similar you can be somewhat sure they are a bot then you can adjust and play accordingly against them.

An example is heads up against one they raise preflop and an A hits the flop on a coordinated board and they bet strong they likely have AK or AQs. If the board is straight or flush coordinated and it gets there they will fold to a min reraise without tanking. That is usually is all I need to be convinced if both those things happen. Then you can use them like an ATM.
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02-27-2019 , 04:36 PM
Kind of getting off topic from the original question OP posted..

Guessing you're an american player, try global poker or ignition.

Also to the other posters in this thread, some people just do not want to play against robots, even if they are "exploitable"
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03-10-2019 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lozgod
It takes a lot of observation but bots are exploitable because they can’t make adjustments like a human. I think the fear of bots is overrated. I looked in to them pretty thoroughly. Most of the common bots (Shanky, Warbot, etc) have very simple program. It’s not as complex as most people think.

I’m sure there are self scripted bots that can be pretty good but the main bots out there play robotic and you will find exploits vs them if you correctly find one.

Some signs:

Using the same bet sizing constantly.

Aggressive betting on any street then folding to aggression without a fight.

Never showing signs of tilt after losing several hands or a bad beat.

Ridiculous inhuman patience.

THE MAIN ONE: Sitting out in similar intervals for the same amount of time. OR never sitting out for hours.

Sitting at several tables and playing 2 or 3 hands simultaneously and acting within seconds on each table.

You can reraise them in non nutted boards and they will instafold hands like TPTK to a lot of aggression.

They typically don’t semibluff. They will check call with their default programming. That can be modified though.

They don’t chat in the chat box. None of the mainstream bots have that ability.

That’s just some of things I found looking in to them.
People always ask me how I know the players are bots and its several things, but this is the main one where I know for sure they are bots. The thing is acr wont do anything about it. So you just mark them down and stay off their tables. Don't give them action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4moq8awnc0

You can simply do this too to find out whos bots/ tables cripting by sitting out and resitting new tables. Even with joey ingram vids and them removing some they come right back... They still in mtts too on acr. It makes me wonder if these bots are made by players or actually by the poker site. There is just so many of them on acr its ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWoeDTp5lrU

Last edited by iburydoscocaroaches; 03-10-2019 at 04:23 PM.
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03-10-2019 , 07:23 PM
Any empty one.
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03-10-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
People always ask me how I know the players are bots and its several things, but this is the main one where I know for sure they are bots. The thing is acr wont do anything about it. So you just mark them down and stay off their tables. Don't give them action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4moq8awnc0

You can simply do this too to find out whos bots/ tables cripting by sitting out and resitting new tables. Even with joey ingram vids and them removing some they come right back... They still in mtts too on acr. It makes me wonder if these bots are made by players or actually by the poker site. There is just so many of them on acr its ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWoeDTp5lrU
That second YT clip was awesome...so, do bots end up playing against each other too?
I only pay live in USA, just curious.
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03-10-2019 , 08:16 PM
There are bots on every site. Less on Pokerstars, but OP's from the US. As far as online networks go, I'd say ACR has the most, followed by Ignition, then Global.
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03-10-2019 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pcarfan
That second YT clip was awesome...so, do bots end up playing against each other too?

I only pay live in USA, just curious.


If I have a bot and you have a bot then yes. There are bot rings but there are also lots of individuals that have bots and are solo. So two of those bots could play against each other.
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03-11-2019 , 07:15 PM
Run It Once. It's new and they built their software from the ground up, so it will be a while before somebody builds a bot for that site.
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03-13-2019 , 12:58 AM
I'd say 888, stars, party.
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