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What's the plan when I crush the board with Ah Qd on QT3hhh What's the plan when I crush the board with Ah Qd on QT3hhh

07-27-2022 , 03:58 AM
Middle position, I make it $10 at 1/2 live, only $100 deep, 3 callers (one of whom I think had limped previously).

I have more details but I don't want to bias things too much, what's an outline of how I want this to go?

And specifically:
--What if another Ace shows on Turn or River?
--Are there any cards I don't want to see?
--What if a fourth heart shows?
--What if it's just two bricks?
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07-27-2022 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by garicasha
what's an outline of how I want this to go?
you want to get all your money into the middle. $25 on the flop and the rest at the next opportunity seems right.
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07-27-2022 , 05:59 AM
AA over pair with the nut flush draw and SPR of 2.5 OTF you are essentially never folding. Your goal is to bet and get it in OTT (or OTF if raised).
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07-27-2022 , 12:49 PM
But isn’t this a hand where I’ve, as Harrington said, have sucked all the oxygen out of the room?

Also I have a pair of queens with top kicker (not aces) but who is gonna look me up on a monotone board, especially when I hold the Ace of monotone?
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07-27-2022 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by garicasha
Middle position, I make it $10 at 1/2 live, only $100 deep, 3 callers (one of whom I think had limped previously).

I have more details but I don't want to bias things too much, what's an outline of how I want this to go?

And specifically:
--What if another Ace shows on Turn or River?
--Are there any cards I don't want to see?
--What if a fourth heart shows?
--What if it's just two bricks?
No matter what happens, you should just be betting, and honestly this is not a spot you should be worrying about. If anyone has something (including a big heart) they will call, and if they don't they won't. If they have the flush, you still have outs.

But more importantly, you have $40 in the pot and only $90 left and 3 opponents. You could possibly lose another 45BB here if you are somehow beat, but you stand to win a lot more than that if you can get people to call bets. You are the initial raiser - they aren't going to be betting for you. If you want to win their money you are going to have to do the betting.

What if they all fold? Big deal. That means they don't have anything. People at 1/2 live don't like to fold, but they are fine with checking and taking free cards. Don't give them free cards because they are liable to get a hidden 2-pair or bink a set straight or set, and you'll be left wondering how you could have lost. As I said, if they already have you beat, so be it. Not the end of the world, and you can still hit your flush.
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07-27-2022 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by garicasha
Also I have a pair of queens with top kicker (not aces) but who is gonna look me up on a monotone board, especially when I hold the Ace of monotone?
This deep live? Probably everybody
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07-28-2022 , 02:08 AM
Bet big, play fast
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07-28-2022 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by garicasha
But isn’t this a hand where I’ve, as Harrington said, have sucked all the oxygen out of the room?

Also I have a pair of queens with top kicker (not aces) but who is gonna look me up on a monotone board, especially when I hold the Ace of monotone?
Duh, I think I conflated two different threads,

But still play it fast.
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07-28-2022 , 09:05 AM
Your image/previous VPiP can change how you play this a bit IMO. My belief in these spots is that 'if' you are going to get called it wont matter what you bet most of the time.

So, when action is on me, I do the slow 'heart check' and I bet anywhere from 'pot' to shove, especially this short. $90 is pretty much nothing to a lot of 1/2 Players these days especially when they know they wont have to put anymore into the pot.

I'm not sure what 'details' you could provide that would change my opinion. You want to charge any Broadway draws and perhaps the KhXx is out there too.

As was mentioned above .. not a spot to fret. You're betting, it's just a matter of how much here OTF. GL
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07-30-2022 , 06:54 AM
The easiest way to get chips in the pot is to put chips in the pot. Especially low limit live.

Example from the other night,1/3nl, table with a very inexperienced player and a bunch of bad regulars, very deep stacks all around:

In early position I raise 99 over a limp, get about 5 callers.
Flop 943 rainbow. Check check to me, I bet 1.5x pot. Get 2 callers.
Turn another 3. Check to me, I bet 1.5x pot. 1 caller.
River is a J. Check to me, I bet pot. He calls and tables 38 offsuit.

Bet your hands.

Afterwards, I took the beginner aside and pointed him to the beginners forum here. Hopefully he finds his way here, otherwise he's going to bleed a ton of money while he learns. Raj, if you see this, PM me.

Last edited by runout_mick; 07-30-2022 at 07:01 AM. Reason: more info
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