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03-25-2015 , 05:41 AM
I've been playing for about a year and the last couple of tournaments i'ce come 3rd and walked away with about $100.

I play in position folding garbage hands when i'm first to act unless i have a good hand and i meet the BB.

If i dont think i have anything on the flop and low odds and i get raised i fold.
If im hitting a flush i'll keep playing meet the previous bets or raise.

Whenever i have a monster hand i check and call all the way to the river sometimes even checking on teh river to trick the guy into going for a high bluff or raise bet which i meet.Not all the time but if i want to trick the player into thinking i have nothing.

I play well and last night i lost about 5 hands and won practically everything i didn't fold.

When it came down to 3 players the blinds were very high and chip stacks were varying. There were times i should have gone all in early and because i went all in to late even though i won i never wiped the other player out.

Obviously in end game i should go all in more on high cards or pairs and rarely fold my BB to secure a win?

Also i feel that even though i had monster hands such as full house vs full house. I never raised enough to wipe the other guy out.

I take 100k here and there doesnt make much diffrence in the end game?

Also the player who came in second raised often pre flop then check until the river where he put a bet in vs other hands. Is this guy bluffing more than he has made hands? Should i call him with a high pair or risk him having a two pair.

Are cash games worth playing? I've played a few at my casino with mixed results. Pots of $120 or more for a pair of kings or drunk idiots raising $30 pre flop with **** hands. Obviously i know not to go when the pros are there but is it worth it grinding it out on the nights when drunk people are out in force to feed me money?

Last edited by thehitpack; 03-25-2015 at 06:03 AM.
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03-25-2015 , 05:55 AM
An extremely bad and inexperianced one. Or a troll.
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03-25-2015 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I've been playing for about a year and the last couple of tournaments i'ce come 3rd and walked away with about $100.

I play in position folding garbage hands when i'm first to act unless i have a good hand and i meet the BB.

If i dont think i have anything on the flop and low odds and i get raised i fold.
If im hitting a flush i'll keep playing meet the previous bets or raise.

Whenever i have a monster hand i check and call all the way to the river sometimes even checking on teh river to trick the guy into going for a high bluff or raise bet which i meet.Not all the time but if i want to trick the player into thinking i have nothing.

I play well and last night i lost about 5 hands and won practically everything i didn't fold.

When it came down to 3 players the blinds were very high and chip stacks were varying. There were times i should have gone all in early and because i went all in to late even though i won i never wiped the other player out.

Obviously in end game i should go all in more on high cards or pairs and rarely fold my BB to secure a win?

Also i feel that even though i had monster hands such as full house vs full house. I never raised enough to wipe the other guy out.

I take 100k here and there doesnt make much diffrence in the end game?

Also the player who came in second raised often pre flop then check until the river where he put a bet in vs other hands. Is this guy bluffing more than he has made hands? Should i call him with a high pair or risk him having a two pair.

Are cash games worth playing? I've played a few at my casino with mixed results. Pots of $120 or more for a pair of kings or drunk idiots raising $30 pre flop with **** hands. Obviously i know not to go when the pros are there but is it worth it grinding it out on the nights when drunk people are out in force to feed me money?
No offence but the post you placed here indicates indeed that you're way too unexperienced and you just got lucky I guess
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03-25-2015 , 07:25 AM
I get that that's why i'm posting in the beginer thread to better my game.

Like i said i've only been playing for a year and i may have gotten lucky or played **** players.

Could you give me some explanation as to why you think i sound so inexperienced?
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03-25-2015 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I get that that's why i'm posting in the beginer thread to better my game.

Like i said i've only been playing for a year and i may have gotten lucky or played **** players.

Could you give me some explanation as to why you think i sound so inexperienced?
your OP had a lot of trivial things
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03-25-2015 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I get that that's why i'm posting in the beginer thread to better my game.

Like i said i've only been playing for a year and i may have gotten lucky or played **** players.

Could you give me some explanation as to why you think i sound so inexperienced?
-I play in position folding garbage hands when i'm first to act unless i have a good hand and i meet the BB. If i dont think i have anything on the flop and low odds and i get raised i fold. If im hitting a flush i'll keep playing meet the previous bets or raise.
These are all very general and really vague statements that don't mean anything and show you dont have a clue about poker. Do you know what equity is or a range?

-Whenever i have a monster hand i check and call all the way to the river sometimes even checking on teh river to trick the guy into going for a high bluff or raise bet which i meet.Not all the time but if i want to trick the player into thinking i have nothing.
This is the most ******ed part of your post and set my troll senses off big time.

-I play well and last night i lost about 5 hands and won practically everything i didn't fold.
Sorry but you don't play well at all.

-Also the player who came in second raised often pre flop then check until the river where he put a bet in vs other hands. Is this guy bluffing more than he has made hands? Should i call him with a high pair or risk him having a two pair.
I aplogise, i was wrong this is the most ******ed part of your post.
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03-25-2015 , 08:36 AM
I don't know what your problem is but calling someone ******ed on a forum is a pretty sad thing to do.

Theres always some ******* to bring down the standard of otehr people. If you have nothing positive to contribute to anything you must be a pretty sad person.

Probably a fat 45 year never get laid type who spends all day surfing the web.

I've never met you therefore you would have a hard tme saying how badly i play based on teh info i've given you.

I'm waiting for a smart assed reply however i no longer give a **** about your opinion theerfore do not post on this topic again if it displeases you.

Go an take a dump in momma's mouth instead.
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03-25-2015 , 08:52 AM
He didn't call you a ******. He called part of your post a ******.

If your going to get upset ever time you misread something and then attack people you won't get nothing from this forum.
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03-25-2015 , 09:05 AM
He didn't say you were ******ed, he said parts of your post were ******ed.

The reason it's apparent that you have been a lucky novice is your post is full of indicators that tell seasoned and educated players that, not only do you not know much about the game, you're green enough that you don't know the depth of things you don't know (if that makes sense).

Many of the guys posting here have studied hard for years, some upwards of 40 hours per week in just study, not even including their play time of tens of thousands of hands per week. If guys are still putting in that much effort over years, it shows you how deep the levels of this game can go. Even the best still study after a decade plus of playing nose bleeds (Galfond and Polk are great examples).

When you post, post specific questions and specific examples. Be detailed and concise. Don't poke the bear (with regards to name calling or cursing other posters). You'll get nothing but more abuse and it's unbecoming. Someone said your post contained ******ed elements. You told them to **** in their moms mouth. There goes your moral high ground. You can get a lot from this site and the contributors if you come with respect and humility, and dropping any ego at the door. And I meant what I said about study; I played for eight years and read a couple of dozen books in that time before signing up to 2+2 in 2011 or so. It took me another 18 months of committed study and play at about 30 hours per week to see just how deep the rabbit hole goes, and how little I truly knew.
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03-25-2015 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I don't know what your problem is but calling someone ******ed on a forum is a pretty sad thing to do.

Theres always some ******* to bring down the standard of otehr people. If you have nothing positive to contribute to anything you must be a pretty sad person.

Probably a fat 45 year never get laid type who spends all day surfing the web.

I've never met you therefore you would have a hard tme saying how badly i play based on teh info i've given you.

I'm waiting for a smart assed reply however i no longer give a **** about your opinion theerfore do not post on this topic again if it displeases you.

Go an take a dump in momma's mouth instead.
You speculate about who i am how old i am and what my mating patterns are then go on to say i cant judge how bad you are because i have never met you lol it's just so fail im sorry.

As the others have said i never called you ******ed i was merely calling your posts ******ed which they are, your 3rd post and your already personally attacking people and getting emotional.

I dont need to know you to know you suck, read KraventheHunter the hunters great post and you will understand how i know. It may seem harsh but im actually trying to do you a favour. Like KraventheHunter i also played for 4 years before joining the forums and i though i was great, i didnt even know what a range was and i didn't know 3 betting was an actual thing i just thought i got raised a lot and wondered why when i finally got dealt KK+ and 4 bet the guy would snap fold.

If you really want to get good at poker you need to deposit online and play a lot of hands using proper bankroll manage. Join run it once and post frequently on the forums. Analyze your hands and post them for people to review if your not sure of the correct play. That is just scratching the surface but i will stop there as i know from experiance you wont do any of the things i have listed because like many before you you are ignorant, stubborn and oblivious. I would be delighted though for you to prove me wrong.
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03-25-2015 , 10:49 AM
I appreciate any POSITIVE feedback about poker strategy i didn't sign up to a forum to be insulted.

Whatever advice or knowledge anyone has to give im gratefull for however.
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03-25-2015 , 10:59 AM
Yet you come on here an insult people because you thought you were being insulted?

best thing you can do is put this thread behind you, read the stickies and search the forum and try to improve rather than asking vague questions.
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03-25-2015 , 11:29 AM
@thehitpack

Ignore the haters. I mean literally. Just put them on your ignore list.
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03-25-2015 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I appreciate any POSITIVE feedback about poker strategy i didn't sign up to a forum to be insulted.

Whatever advice or knowledge anyone has to give im gratefull for however.
How about i pick 3 hands from the forum and ask you to analyze them?
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03-25-2015 , 12:06 PM
on you go.
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03-25-2015 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by thehitpack
I appreciate any POSITIVE feedback about poker strategy i didn't sign up to a forum to be insulted.

Whatever advice or knowledge anyone has to give im gratefull for however.
To be fair you asked for the bare truth and the worst you got was that your post contained ******ed elements, that's not so bad is it? Also the guy took the trouble to quote every paragraph and point out the ******ed part, do you really think someone is going to take that effort just to piss off a newbie?

Your post wasn't put together that well, to put it mildly. It's so vague and general and on top of that you manage to set off every single troll alert I can possibly imagine. It doesn't matter if you're trolling or not and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not, but it's pretty much a copy of trolling 101 page 1.

Just take what is said for face value; you have enormous amounts of material to learn in poker, start from scratch and get better.
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03-25-2015 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
To be fair you asked for the bare truth and the worst you got was that your post contained ******ed elements, that's not so bad is it? Also the guy took the trouble to quote every paragraph and point out the ******ed part, do you really think someone is going to take that effort just to piss off a newbie?
Thanks man guys like this really make me feel like an ass hole but i'm just the guy dishing out harsh truth in an attempt to direct them on the right path.

Anyway OP here are a few randomly selected hands:

Hand 1:
Spoiler:
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 60)
SB: 41.4 BB
BB: 72 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 136.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) 2 T 5
UTG bets 4.8 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB

Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG bets 11.2 BB, Hero calls 11.2 BB

River: (39.4 BB, 2 players) 7
UTG bets 34 BB, Hero calls 34 BB


Hand 2
Spoiler:
BTN: $35.51 (355.1 bb)
SB: $12.60 (126 bb)
BB: $10.60 (106 bb)
UTG: $13.33 (133.3 bb)
MP: $20.36 (203.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $22.29 (222.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN raises to $0.80, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.75) 9 5 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.26, Hero calls $1.26

Turn: ($4.27) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.08, Hero folds


Hand 3:
Spoiler:
Hero (BTN): $16.46 (164.6 bb)
SB: $42.26 (422.6 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $11.07 (110.7 bb)
MP: $5.67 (56.7 bb)
CO: $13.24 (132.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 K
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) J 5 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.31, BB calls $0.31

Turn: ($1.27) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.27) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.90, BB tanks...


Hand 4:
Spoiler:
CO: $24.88
BTN: $4.02
Hero (SB): $9.70
BB: $12.79
UTG: $23.53

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.35, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.70, 2 players) 6 Q 9
Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $1.22, Hero calls $0.77

Turn: ($3.14, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BB bets $3.94, Hero calls $3.94

River: ($11.02, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, BB bets $7.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.19 and is all-in
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03-25-2015 , 03:48 PM
I love hand #4 for reasons I am not going to spoil
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03-25-2015 , 05:54 PM
Analyzing hands and studying is something I've been trying to do more of recently. I'd like to take my shot at these but I'll let OP do it.

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I love hand #4 for reasons I am not going to spoil
lol
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03-25-2015 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
I love hand #4 for reasons I am not going to spoil
haha
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Originally Posted by Gut_shot
Analyzing hands and studying is something I've been trying to do more of recently. I'd like to take my shot at these but I'll let OP do it.

lol
Cool feel free and thanks for waiting on op
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03-25-2015 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Eu.Era
Thanks man guys like this really make me feel like an ass hole but i'm just the guy dishing out harsh truth in an attempt to direct them on the right path.

Anyway OP here are a few randomly selected hands:

<snip ******ed hands>
These hands are ******ed.
Spoiler:
They have failed to grow any suits.
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03-25-2015 , 08:10 PM
Very Very good
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03-25-2015 , 09:12 PM
First of all i want to say thanks for the help and the poker strategy. Your reply to my first post has some merit as earlier on i entered into an online tournament with 3000k with $500 guaranteed.

I got up to 5000k before losing to 2 straights when i had top two pair. Granted the straights came in on the river which i hear happens a lot in online poker however it threw my game off and went all in with K Q which i lost i think to an ace.

Obviously playing better players means one has to increase the game. The tournament i played previously where all in a local biker bar where the atmosphere is friendly and hardly competitive. After sussing out the people. who bluff to the river with a two pair i was able to take all there chips with monster hands whilst minimizing my losses by not making crazy bets when i had nothing to bluff the guy.

Obviously based on that im hardly playing pro players however i do have an understanding of the basic game moving on to advanced strategy, i thought your reply was a little unfair. However i understand that harsh truth helps.

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03-25-2015 , 09:34 PM
Hand 1

I would in my inexperience have folded at the river. However the villian probably has k something. If its either a 10 or 7 then he has won. I would say odds are for him to win.
I would strongly guess he has a K or an A in there.

Hand 2

In the second hand the hero is limping. He probably has the win. I doubt the villian has anything other than J-A and not two pair. I would have called.

Hand 3

Hand 3 is a tricky one . My belief is that the villian has the straight or is trying to bluff the straight. If there where a posssiblity the hero should have made the next 2 cards expensive to look at. If the villian had anything he would have had a K 10 or A 10.

Hand 4

4 to me isthe trickiest because the villian is raising all the way to the river whilst chasing a straight. Again my belief is that he has a straight and the hero should have folded on the flop.

Looking at it again the villian may be bluffing and have Q something or K something because of the unlikely chance of catching the straight and the massive bets leading up to it. He may have a set.

How did i do?
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03-26-2015 , 12:44 AM
I like 3.14
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