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Typical 5/10 live player win rate? Typical 5/10 live player win rate?

04-20-2023 , 06:08 PM
What is general consensus of a winning player in either 2/5 and 5/10? An answer in bb/hour or even win rate (winning sessions/total sessions) would be very helpful!
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04-20-2023 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thvnh
What is general consensus of a winning player in either 2/5 and 5/10? An answer in bb/hour or even win rate (winning sessions/total sessions) would be very helpful!
a winning player would be anyone who wins at 0.1bb/hr and upwards at a statistically relevant sample size

I'm guessing your question was slightly different though?
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04-21-2023 , 02:39 AM
Let me clarify. At minimum, what would be considered an AVERAGE pro's bb/hr and win rate(winning sessions/total sessions). Pro meaning a full-time poker player.
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04-21-2023 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by thvnh
What is general consensus of a winning player in either 2/5 and 5/10? An answer in bb/hour or even win rate (winning sessions/total sessions) would be very helpful!
Why would an answer be helpful? What is it telling you that will make you a better player? How much is the average wage in your line of work?
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04-21-2023 , 08:32 AM
The question isn't so much of what can a winning 2/5 or 5/10 player can make, but rather how many people can be a winning player over the long time. Squid Face, a long time player at 2/5 has said that he made over $100,000 a year for many years. He's also said that extremely few players make it over a year playing. You have to be incredibly disciplined to do this and work much harder than what you would have to do to earn that $100k. You can't be "average." You have to be exceptional to make any money at poker over years.
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04-21-2023 , 12:29 PM
jfc people, you know what he meant, just answer the question

75-100$/hr is likely attainable by a solid pro at 5/10$, anything above that would require special circtumstances, like an access to very juicy private games or being a crusher
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04-21-2023 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
jfc people, you know what he meant, just answer the question

75-100$/hr is likely attainable by a solid pro at 5/10$, anything above that would require special circtumstances, like an access to very juicy private games or being a crusher
Thanks. I came to 2+2 and somehow ended up in what feels like twitter replies
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04-21-2023 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thvnh
Let me clarify. At minimum, what would be considered an AVERAGE pro's bb/hr and win rate(winning sessions/total sessions). Pro meaning a full-time poker player.
Since you specified live player to honestly answer requires more details of how many games you have available, rake structure, player pool, and buy-in. The estimate of $75-$100 an hour is way high for an average pro playing say 1500+ hours a year but likely reachable for a top pro or an average pro that only plays when the table is especially favorable . If you are the only shark in the pool you might reach this as an average ability pro.
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04-21-2023 , 05:08 PM
I was looking for personal anecdotes, a personal friend's stats(not friend of friends) or perhaps somebody that publicly displays their record. I don't want to specify rake structures because they vary across the nation. Trying to get a generalization at the 5/10 or even deep 2/5 stake.
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05-01-2023 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
The question isn't so much of what can a winning 2/5 or 5/10 player can make, but rather how many people can be a winning player over the long time. Squid Face, a long time player at 2/5 has said that he made over $100,000 a year for many years. He's also said that extremely few players make it over a year playing. You have to be incredibly disciplined to do this and work much harder than what you would have to do to earn that $100k. You can't be "average." You have to be exceptional to make any money at poker over years.
Hello. making a reasonable living at poker aint ez. If it were every one would do it. There are about a million pitfalls wannabees fall into. I was able to build a nice little life and raise a family with my gamboolin winnings. But I worked my fcuking ass off both on and off the felt. I have seen hundreds upon hundreds fail trying to make a go of poker over the years. As the saying goes it is a tough way to make an easy living. I advise people trying to make it to keep their job and gambool as a side gig where u can cherry pick your hours and maintain a steady work income.

I have a lot of gamboolin pals. One of which is a 5/T deep stack specialist who has worked harder on his game than anyone I know. he is ball park 150/hr in deep games.

I have a couple o pals that are between 70 and 100/hr @ 5/T

I dont have all of my records handy but I believe I am slightly under 12bb/hr in a masssive sample of 2/5

My GF SPC is ballpark 10bb/hr in 2/5

these are all full time professional w/r's over large samples who are also quite good at poker. Not cherry picked weekend warrior small samples or crap abc regs. They all have skills that I respect and admire.

I was playing in a private game with lots o stroodling and players that hate $ and my w/r is comcially large. Many people have aspirations of playing against the best players. My goal has always been to play against the worst.

Last edited by squid face; 05-01-2023 at 06:12 PM.
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05-02-2023 , 10:33 AM
To get to your actual question .. I think it's a two part question so to speak.

A 'comfortable' Player should have a win rate of at least 8bb up to 15-20bb/hour IMO. There are many threads that suggest that this is the point where a Player may consider taking shots at the next level. 20bb/hour plus would be considered a Crusher in most circles.

A 'successful' Player can only be determined by their goals and their 'schedule'. You are smart enough to understand that the lower the win rate the more hours required to hit a goal.

My wife is a Shipt Shopper and Door Dasher .. while she does have a weekly goal, she knows that 'lots' of similar people work to a hard weekly hard stop. Once they hit their goal they stop for the week. So she's been putting in less hours on Monday and Tuesday when 'everyone' is working and thus she can more efficiently reach her goals later in the week when others have stopped putting in as many daily hours.

Both sides are 'successful' but my wife has a higher bb/hour so to speak for the same income since hers is earned in a short period of time. You could also argue that the other people have a similar bb/hour since they were able to reach their goal in a short time as well .. AND that during the slow weeks they have a head start whereas my wife is risking a shortfall by starting later. Is my wife 'game selecting' by working when others are normally off? Perhaps.

A bit of a ramble there .. but the meat of the answer is in line 2. GL
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05-25-2023 , 07:01 AM
Haha i love that Squid face " Many people have aspirations of playing against the best players. My goal has always been to play against the worst"
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06-01-2024 , 02:36 PM
I played pro for 4 years at 2/5 and averaged 70-100k each year before moving onto other things. I just kinda burned out after going pro, and really didn't enjoy it any more. (1500-2k hours - average of 50-60 an hour)

I still play but only at 1/3 where I try and make 15-30k a year just playing weekends at fun splashy tables where I can chat. (30-40 an hour)

I may go back to full time as i've been enjoying playing again.
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