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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Pretty sure you shouldn't be open limping hands like a9 suited early in a sitngo because you get in situations like that where someone raises you call, and now you're playing a somewhat big pot against a representatively big hand and cbet when you mostly just want to survive to the push fold stage.
Not related, but OP, do you know what the independent chip model is?
I'd recommend reading the STT forum/faq hopefully it has some of this fairly basic stuff (like the ICM model) covered there.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36/stt-strategy/ is the link for the single table strategy forum...note ICM considerations (ie. how play is influenced by the payout structure) is different for single table tournaments where 60% of the prize pool is paid out simply by making it to the final 3 players (the bubble effect), and MTT sitngos. HU sngs have no bubble effects.
ICM is on the list of things to attempt to learn and fail at. Along with math,theory, equity, etc.
since we are at might as well tear that hand apart.
Poker HUD & Database
NL Holdem $-20(BB)
BTN ($1446)
SB ($1415)
BB ($1394)
UTG ($1440)
EP ($1355)
MP ($1380)
HERO ($1610)
HJ ($1160)
CO ($2300)
Dealt to Hero A 9
UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP Folds, HERO Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 1590), HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Raises To $65 (Rem. Stack: 1381), SB Folds, BB Folds, HERO Calls $45 (Rem. Stack: 1545)
Flop ($160) A J A
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $120 (Rem. Stack: 1261), HERO Raises To $360 (Rem. Stack: 1185), BTN Calls $240 (Rem. Stack: 1021)
Turn ($880) A J A T
HERO Bets $440 (Rem. Stack: 745), BTN Folds
HERO wins $1320
This is the cheaper stage at 10/20. We could bring up ICM and say you gain nothing here, but ICM only works if I get all my chips in during the hand at that particular instance.
I'm in MP2 so this isn't exactly early or late, I believe this hand is wide just enough to make a LAG call, a TAG would throw this out. Yep, I got raised by the btn, and I chose to flat call. I just see it one of two ways.
a. fold and lose the dead money
b. call and pay to see the flop. 45 chips to call. 2.2:1 pot odds. Button could be raising fairly wide we learn that answer on the flop.
EDIT: did poker stove calcs preflop
vs btn's 25% range I'm 52%
vs btn's 12% range I'm 42%
so unless he raises with top 15% range...which btn's tend to raise wide.
flop: I check away due to hitting trips, I expect a cbet his bet of $120 which is 6xbb is a bit daunting but it's only a little higher than half the pot.
but you know what I'm gonna do some poker stove calcs and see how this goes down.
so A9s(d) vs 30% of btn's range I'm an 83% fav.
A9s(d) vs 18% of btn's range I'm 78% fav.
A9s(d) vs 10% of btn's range Im 75% fav.
A9s(d) vs 4% of btn's range I'm 71% fav.
I would like to include ICM calc here but I'm not dumping all my chips into the hand.
ok 71% even vs top 4%...
There are only 5 hands that beat me outright
AK/AQ/AJ/AT/JJ
With his bet I have to be better than 28% of the time to call.
Have about 6 outs
2.3 - pot odds.
The EV to make the call is 13.2 this is a rough calc.
I raise by 360 which is 3x bb, this gave in roughly 2.7 - 1 odds.
he called...which leads to the turn.
I bet half the pot.
I checked and am about 58% even vs 4% of his range. I suppose at this point btn gave up.
Beyond that...I suck at this.