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Straight on the board? Straight on the board?

02-03-2020 , 06:35 PM
How do you all handle a straight on the board? I have some example run outs that I'm curious about. These are just example hands, let's assume $300 effective at 1/3 live for all of them.

Hand 1:
Villain raises to 12 from utg+1
Hero flats from cutoff with JTs
Everyone else folds

Flop: 457r
Villain bets $12
Hero calls

Turn: 4578r
Both check

River: 45678
Villain checks
Hero: ?? Do I ever bother trying to push him off a chop and under what circumstances?

Hand 2
Villain limps from mp
Hero raises to $15 from co with QQ
Villain 3 bet to $40
Hero calls

Flop: 457r
Villain checks
Hero bets $60
Villain calls

Turn: 4578r
Villain checks
Hero checks

River: 45678
Villain jams
Hero: ?? Am I always supposed to bluffcatch when the preflop action makes a 9 feel unlikely, or generally am I supposed to believe a jam at llsnl and lay it down?

Is there a good "general rule of thumb" regarding a straight on the board, no flush possible, facing a small River bet vs an overbet? Thanks!
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02-03-2020 , 07:01 PM
Hand 1 why would you float the flop just to check a turn that is good for your hand and favors your range? I think that's more important to address than a super rare river spot.

Did you have a backdoor flush draw?
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02-03-2020 , 07:42 PM
These weren't actual hands I played, I can't remember the action now but I saw a straight on the board a while back and it just got me curious about how to play the spot if you end up there.

For the sake of hand 1 maybe let's say it was JQs instead of JT and I had a bd flush draw that missed the turn.
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02-04-2020 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Stagg
These weren't actual hands I played, I can't remember the action now but I saw a straight on the board a while back and it just got me curious about how to play the spot if you end up there.
The point is that it depends how you got there. If your line makes sense (for repping a better straight) and also your range contains more straights than villain's range, and you think villain would never check if he actually had it, then you have a good spot to bluff him off a chop. If your line is such that he'll never believe you, or it's possible for him to have the nuts at a decent frequency, then bluffing is pointless.
Cliffs: It's not just the fact that there's a straight on the board that's important. It's whether you can credibly represent having an even better straight.

P.S. If villain jams on you when the board shows a strong made hand (meaning your hole cards have no value), the general rule of thumb is "Don't call off your stack if the best you can hope for is a chop".
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