I am trying to make a poker model on excel of a fictitious distribution. Anyway, I need to know this first. Lets say I am playing .01/.02 cent games and my bankroll is $50.00. Yeah i still need to find out ROR and all that but anyway. I need to know how bb or the stakes correlates with hands played. Say i wanted to double my bankroll the first week to a $100 and move up to .02/.05 cent games. I have to earn a lil less than a 11% on my bankroll daily to achieve this goal. Now how do i show a relationship between the stakes (.01/.02) and hands played to achieve that? In other words, how many hands should i play at .01/.02 cent games to make $50 dollars in order to double my bankroll?

It obviously depends on your win rate. If you have any stats on your win rate at any stakes then if wouldn't be too had to figure out how many hands it should take.

Having said that all this 'model' will give you is an unattainable timeframe to go from busto to robusto. Its purely an academic to say how long it will take to move up, what if you tilt or run bad? Just play pokerz imo

I totally disagree.

Thats like saying when businessman make financial models for a project that all it is going to do is make them go broke. Or when economist make econ models that its not even worth it because the economy can just crumble tomorrow. Because what if the project fails. Of course everything has a chance to fail. You make the model to try to forecast ahead of time. Just play poker is not good advice. What if you tilt or run bad is a weak response. I mean what if the world is over tomorrow? Anything can happen but you still plan ahead of time. I cold simulate results and see if something happening with my actual distribution is a rare occurence that only occurs once in every 20 years. If anyone could help me answer the question though that would be great.

You should play:
Amount needed to be won = a
Winrate per hand = h
Number of hands needed: a/h (dimensionally adjusted or whatever)

I'm not sure that was what you are asking but I am trying to help.

Lets say:
your win rate is 10bb/100 at every stake.
you have to win 30 buyins at a level before you move up
you play 1000 hands a day.

you win on average 1 buy in a day, and move up stakes once a month.

To double $50 at 0.01/0.02 with a win rate of 10bb/100

you would make 20 cents per 100 hands $50/$0.2=250
therefore 250*100=25000 hands
if you are playing 1000 hands a day it should take you 25 days.

thats what you wanted I guess...

As a rebuttal to your response which i don't understand at all:

In a poker bankroll model there are two variables:your win rate and the number of hands you play a day. You can not accurately predict your win rate without previous information, there is nothing to base it on. You can't just sit down and say I think I'm going to win 20bb/100, it takes a couple thousand hands to get an estimation of your win rate. Therefore trying to model the growth of your bankroll with any precision is going to be pretty difficult.
I may be wrong but that just what makes sense to me.

I still don't understand what this information is going to give you. I mean its cool to think,'hey after just 100,000 hands I am going to be a high stakes balla'. It just doesn't give you anything except a goal. Not that thats a bad thing.

EDIT: I know my win rate at the stakes I play, so in theory the trend of my graph should just be:

y=size of bankroll
m=win rate
x=no. of hands
c=initial bankroll

y=mx+c

But because I tilted and played high stakes HUNL cash, its not.

good look my man. I appreciate it. And if you dont know how it would be useful think of ways of how it could be useful. Its all in the eye of the beholders. I do not feel like explaining all of its relevance at this current moment but you seem intelligent, and it wont take long before you see its significance.

I might take much longer to see the significance but I'm not intelligent
GL with it tho

There was a thread in the poker theory forum not too long ago that related to this question. If r is the rate of increase of your bankroll, then your bankroll expects to double by the "rule of 72" after 72/r*100 number of hands. For tournaments, this is simply after you've played 72/r of them. By the way, r is not to be confused with your win-rate and it is a function of your playing style and how aggressive/conservative you are with your bankroll.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...weekly-395969/

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