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01-19-2015 , 10:17 AM
Playing mostly 0.50$ 360man turbo and 0.50$ 90man turbo, what would be a good bankroll, that can take a severe downswing? I play only 4 tables at a time usually.
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01-19-2015 , 10:41 AM
sigh, thought this might be an stt question. $100 if you need a lot of cover, $50 probably all you really need
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01-19-2015 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
sigh, thought this might be an stt question...
What would it be for STT? I'm playing a few .50c STTs at the moment with a bankroll of ~ $40. Given that I'm doing fairly well (ITM ~ 40%) do you think I can move up?
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01-19-2015 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAfterman
What would it be for STT? I'm playing a few .50c STTs at the moment with a bankroll of ~ $40. Given that I'm doing fairly well (ITM ~ 40%) do you think I can move up?
itm% is irrelevant, and no, you probably shouldn't
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01-19-2015 , 11:00 AM
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itm% is irrelevant
That's a bit like saying shots on target are irrelevant in football match statistics. If your ITM was 100% it would relevant, as it would if it was 0% (assuming your data sample was significant). In other words ITM, much like shots on target in football, tell you something about the way you are playing...assuming your data sample is of a significant size.

A slightly more helpful reply would be...

STT = 40 buys in (source: Poker Mindset)

And as to moving up...how many STTs have you played and what is your ROI?

OP, I'd be going with no less than 70 buys in (from the same source).

Last edited by Fatboy54; 01-19-2015 at 11:08 AM.
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01-19-2015 , 11:09 AM
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itm% is irrelevant, and no, you probably shouldn't
Why is it irrelevant? Surely in STT when the lowest paying position gets you ~ 3x your buy in having an ITM over 30% is a good indicator that you are profitable?

Don't have access to my stats but FWIW I think about 50% of that ITM are wins so my ROI is surely decent.

Point taken about not moving up though. I just wanted to see what you'd say since you were gagging for a STT question.
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01-19-2015 , 11:17 AM
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And as to moving up...how many STTs have you played and what is your ROI?
Thanks Fatboy. Admittedly my sample size is small atm so I would probably think carefully about moving up even if someone had said it was a good idea. I don't know my ROI off the top of my head but like I said above I think ~40-50% of that ITM is wins.
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01-19-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheAfterman
Why is it irrelevant? Surely in STT when the lowest paying position gets you ~ 3x your buy in having an ITM over 30% is a good indicator that you are profitable?
what the hell kind of stt's are you playing whereby the bubble gets 3x the buy in?
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01-19-2015 , 11:19 AM
Sorry I think that should be 2x buy in. The 9 seat 33c tables on 888 give you 60c for 3rd place. The .50c on pokerstars give you .90c (if memory serves me correctly).
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01-19-2015 , 01:45 PM
So what sixfour means by "the ITM% doesn't matter" is that it is very possible to nit up and get your 2 big blinds in the money giving you a 45% ITM and then always coming in 3rd. Your ROI is the biggest indicator of how profitable you are.

Since micro stakes are such rake traps I would advice in general to move up as soon as you can beat the new stake and having a relatively high risk of ruin because rake is still the toughest opponent to beat in those games. You could use ROI to determine if you're good enough but honestly it is tough to get a meaningful sample (would take 1000s of games) to determine your true ROI so post some hands and describe the way you think about the hand. I could tell you much easier how good you are by just a few of those hands than a random sample of a few hundred games.
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01-19-2015 , 03:52 PM
^^ basically the nuts, heed it well.

more controversially, at stars anyway, $7 easier then $3.5, so just go with your bankroll and don't worry about skill levels until you start to hit $15 or higher.

that should draw some flak!
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01-19-2015 , 06:09 PM
Well since you aren't mass tabling 100-150bbs should be good. If you were mass tabling 20+ games 300bbs is super safe.
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01-19-2015 , 06:09 PM
But considering its .50c games which are a joke i'd go with like 50bb lol
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01-20-2015 , 08:46 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I intend to start posting hands up here but need to remember to get them off pokerstars and find the interesting ones as I'm unfortunately stuck playing zoom on mobile to and from work a lot atm.
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