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Should you NOT win money without showdown? Should you NOT win money without showdown?

05-10-2020 , 12:16 AM
It is hard to play a good winning game at 2NL in such a way that you win money overall without showdown. This is because people at 2NL call way too much, so most of your profits should come from them making bad calls against your good hands rather than from you getting them to fold.

I mean, I think most winning players at most stakes tend to lose overall in non-showdown pots and win more than that in their showdown pots. There are some exceptions, but I would guess that it is mostly just some of the best players at mid-stakes and high stakes who actually win money overall in non-showdown pots.

It's been a while for a lot of my volume at different stakes, but I never won overall in non-showdown pots from 50NL to 1000NL.
05-10-2020 , 09:16 AM
The vast majority of winning players (especially in the micros) have negative redlines. That's not to say it's impossible to be a winner with a +ve non-showdown graph, but those players tend to be outliers.
Most people's green line (overall profit) comes from a huge blueline and a redline that goes in the opposite direction but not at quite such a steep angle.
05-10-2020 , 09:02 PM
Not my experience at all at 2NL.
Last night, I saw 6 hands in a row fold to BB.
Any kind of bet you make means entire table folds.
Almost impossible to play anything at 2NL since super nit
05-10-2020 , 09:04 PM
Ok, so Arty agrees. Win show down pots and forget trying to get people to fold. This foots with all advice given here. Play super nit and wait for nuts and bet and get fish callers
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