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Should you ever call with Aces pre-flop when last to act? Should you ever call with Aces pre-flop when last to act?

05-31-2017 , 04:01 PM
If you're holding pocket Aces pre-flop, is there ever a good reason to call with them and see a flop?
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05-31-2017 , 04:04 PM
Do you mean instead of raising?

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05-31-2017 , 04:07 PM
As opposed to calling and not seeing a flop?

Yeah you can call a raise IP to set a trap, or open the door for a Russian spewtard to squeeze from the blinds, but if you mean limping behind multiple limpers then just no.
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05-31-2017 , 04:29 PM
Setting a trap and slowplaying is fine, but getting into a multiway and then just betting your overpair is likely to result in you losing to three of a kind, two pair, a straight or flush.

Against players who have weaker standing hands, a lot of huge hands that you hit will be unlikely to realise any equity in view of the fact that the board will frighten away most players.

So, what I mean is, let's say you hit a nut flush or nut straight, that means four of the cards involved in your hand will be on the board and it will be easy for your opponents to put you on holding an Ace, even if they have no idea you have two.

If you have a monster like a set on the flop, only one of your opponents can even have an Ace and they're unlikely to be in a spot where they can call a lot of large bets with an Ace on the board.
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05-31-2017 , 05:21 PM
I like doing this when it looks like it's going to be a heads up pot. Multiway, I like to thin out the field a bit.
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05-31-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DisRuptive1
If you're holding pocket Aces pre-flop, is there ever a good reason to call with them and see a flop?
AA is a big hand preflop. postflop in mutiway pots you can lose your stack when it isn't best.

I'd be raising AA all the time preflop. Unless I have seen my opponents cards and know what they are holding
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06-02-2017 , 07:44 AM
Thread title says "When last to act". I'd like to know in what circumstances OP thinks it would be a good idea to flat AA in the BB.

Raise.
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06-02-2017 , 11:30 PM
Yes. When the bet is all in.
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06-03-2017 , 12:35 AM
If I'm closing the action with AA, I am raising exactly 100% of the time.

EDIT

I guess if I was on the bubble in a tourney and getting into the money was life-changing I'd flat and fold a lot of flops.
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06-03-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
If I'm closing the action with AA, I am raising exactly 100% of the time.

EDIT

I guess if I was on the bubble in a tourney and getting into the money was life-changing I'd flat and fold a lot of flops.
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06-03-2017 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Thread title says "When last to act". I'd like to know in what circumstances OP thinks it would be a good idea to flat AA in the BB.

Raise.
You can be last to act without being in the BB. Easiest example is being on the Button and facing a BB 3bet but you can also be on the button in a game that allows Mississippi straddles.

Even in the BB, in tournaments it seems like there are stack size / ICM considerations where a call is the right play against at least against a SB open. Unfortunately I am not good enough of a tournament player so I would always raise/shove, but you occasionally see flats from players who clearly know what they are doing.
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06-03-2017 , 09:46 AM
There's no absolutes in poker, so of course there are times when calling or even folding is the right play. Tournaments are one example. If it were the WSOP ME, we were playing hand for hand on the money bubble, someone has already busted out in that hand and losing would mean I'd be bubble boy, I'd fold AA.

In a cash game against a maniac that is raising all the time who is behind you, then calling with AA is good to make a later 3 bet. If 3 bet after I raised pf, I'll call in a relatively shallow game (100 BB or less) to protect my 3bet calling range.

But generally, you want to raise with AA.
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