harsh but realistic, i'll take you up on the 5nl-10nl grind online and get back to you, also you can't not be good enough at poker i'm pretty sure if you study enough i don't think you can be a losing player unless you're really unlucky?

This is a harsh post. But it's also a fair and helpful one which needs to be said. When I first discovered poker I wanted nothing more than to be a pro. During the last few months though I've discovered I'm really just not that good, and probably never will be.

That's life. It sucks, but only a few people are lucky enough to get to do something they love for a living. If you really enjoy poker, start small, build your way up and maybe one day you'll be good enough to have poker as a small second income or at least a slightly profitable hobby.

In my opinion i think it's all about knowledge... How many people would be lawyers for example if they didn't go to law school for so many years? Imagine if their was no law school and someone wanted to become a lawyer i think that's what it's like trying to become a proffesional poker player.

Personally i think nobody has belief anymore because the standard thing to do is get a job get a wife a mortgage and then retire and live a boring af life... well i don't want to do that. And how do people become professional footballers etc if someobody randomly just said you won't make it to them and they gave up? imagine how many people that's happened to who could have made it.

"study" can be completely meaningless - if you kick back and just watch a bunch of videos, you may as well sit there and jerk off instead. "Study" means rigorous analysis of an article and exactly how it applies to your game, point by point.

Yeah that's right, poker players have no belief in poker, that's why posters are telling you that you have no chance.

Also, if you're the kind of person who gives up because some guy said so, you were never going to make it anyway.

Don't put money on the table that you can't afford to lose.

In addition to the good advice you have already got, here's some more tough love.

You appear to be immature, lazy, want easy money for little effort, and have a gambling problem.

Address your gambling problem. Get a job.

silverpaper,

did you read the above post (and thread) yet?

If not, you should do so first before you respond to any other posts in this thread.

cute

Crap analogy w/the law school thing. Loads of resources online both free and at a cost which are enough to make any poker player the players they are today with the huge amount of work they put in. A better analogy is I want to be a lawyer I have no qualifications at all. I'm now going to try and get a job at a law firm.

Also if you're playing poker for a living then poker is your job. You aren't some cool guy who doesn't have a job, poker is your job. Most pro players I know all have mortgages/rent to make, partners and aren't living some baller lifestyle that you probably have in your head.

What you're trying to do is make a living from something you aren't even close to being able to do that from. You have like minimum of a years really hard work to get even close to earning anything that isn't breadcrumbs from poker and from there it gets harder. You have absolutely no idea what it takes.

I mean if you can't put the effort in to get some basic qualifications then I dunno why you think all of a sudden you're going to turn it all around. Go to school, get yourself stable and play the lowest stakes and try to build a roll.

Don't put your last £160 online and spunk it up a wall. Don't put any money online or gamble until you have a decent income and are in a more stable place.

tl;dr - put it on black

Why on earth would you think that this is true ?

seems like a really good and informative thread, will get analyzing now, thanks

tl;dr - put it on black - haha i like it...
i'm not just a normal lazy lay about, i'm way smarter than the average ****** 18 year old who's going out and taking drugs etc... every person i know where i live friends etc are all doing basic **** taking drugs getting into debt, i'm watching documentary's etc... I got kicked out of school because i don't like the system not because i'm a ******... Not the first to judge me

First of all I can't see how I've judged you. You need to get a better perspective of yourself. It's easy to blame other **** and say you don't like or it'd be better if this or that. I mean obviously you aren't going to just accept what I say from my posts, nor should you, but you should put some time into thinking about why you dislike it and how you ****ing your own life up makes that any better.

The whole argument that you dislike something therefore you just reject it and as a consequence massively suffer in your life makes no sense to me.

If you hate school, get some qualifications in a different setting to a school. If you're not a fan of putting in effort and learning then poker really isn't for you so you may as well stop wasting your time.

I already stated in my original post that i will read every single poker thread / book / advice i can get because i'm that dedicated? How hard is that to understand? I'm perfectly willing to do A LOT of research... I just originally asked where i can find the best information.

So you're not a drug addict? Congrats I guess but to most people that's a given, not something to be proud of.

You pretty much seem exactly like a normal lazy layabout, based on your posts...you're a high school drop out, you have a dream of playing poker for a living but have never put the work in, you have a gambling problem and your friends are drug-taking losers. You say that you're smart but intelligence without results of some kind is completely meaningless.

Of course, I could be totally wrong, hopefully I am. If not, well the poker economy needs donators.

You're 7 posts in. You started a thread and got career advice from at least one pro. You got pointed to a thread by another pro that is a road map to exactly what you want to do. You're going to really read his thread later? Why are you still here arguing about what you're going to do, instead of showing us?

Here's what we see now. Even though you claim to be great at studying, you were unable to pass relatively easy schooling. You have no history as an advantage gambler and have shown some troubling degenerate tendencies, but you are going pro soon. You're standing on a treasure trove of poker knowledge, but instead of talking poker you only post about your assumptions about your future career. Show us, don't tell us. Follow dgiharris's road map a ways. Become active as a strat poster here and on micros nl. In a few months ask our opinion, after you actually do some of this work you've been telling us you will do.

You understand poker is a business where you invest your BR to make a profit, right? You're going to need time to build one. Thus, you still need a job.

Playing poker professionally is incredibly difficult.

Graduating high school is easy.

You have no chance at success if you won't listen or develop discipline.

What do you think, how many guys, who does not take drugs and also reallly really wants to make it in poker are trying? How many of them are doing well in high school? And how many of them are gonna be successfull in poker? What totally makes knotes in my brain, is what makes you think, that you are gonna be successfull in poker? Can you explain that?

This forum is full of people with good education, good discipline, good self control, who does not take drugs and only abslolute minority of them play poker proffessionally.

What makes you think, that you will be more successfull in poker than in school?

Based on what you have wrote here, you have no chance. The main thing to change is your attitude.

Prove me wrong. Play 30 k hands nanostakes and post a graph here.

Get some ****ing GCSEs, if you're capable of learning to play poker you should be able to A* GCSE maths, statistics, physics, chemistry, biology, history, geography, modern languages etc without batting an eyelid. Just not necessarily anything which requires creative ability, which can be useful in poker but is far from a prerequisite. Stop gambling until you've done that, prove it to yourself that you can do it. If you can't, do an apprenticeship or get a job and pray to god that you run well in life.

Hate to break it to you, but 18 is the dumbest age. If someone is exceptionally bright and level-headed at 18, then look out - he's going to be the next Warren Buffett or someone when he gets his head out of his ass, because all 18-year-olds have their heads up their asses compared to when they get older. Anyone pushing 30 or older can attest to that fact. Whether you are smart enough to accept this remains to be seen.

This will be hard for an 18-year-old to understand, but experience combined with objective analysis is a very good teacher. Whether that be a musical instrument, formal education or poker, but especially in life, and at 18 you ain't got squat to draw from. Your life experiences thus far are Dora the Explorer, Xbox and trying to cop a boobie feel. Not exactly anything anyone gives a **** about.

There's a huge difference between you getting booted from **** schools and Bill Gates dropping out of Harvard to start Microsoft. And you know what? He didn't just see an Altair and drop out of Harvard to code software for it; he had years and years of programming experience to make a reasonable decision.

What do you know about poker? Next to nothing. What do you know about playing for a living? Absolutely nothing. Doesn't quite sound like you have any knowledge to draw from to make an informed career decision. You sound like an 8-year-old that says he wants to be a fireman or baseball player; that is, talking straight out of your ass based on an idealistic view of something you know nothing about.

How about this. Stop having your folks wipe and polish your ass and move out of their house and cut all financial ties. Now find a way to pay your rent and bills, whether that be by poker or a job.

if you can make 100k+ a year , why do you wanna choose poker as a profession? Play it as a side hobby, I bet you'll have so much fun in poker that way. Read some Poker goal threads, prob something you're looking for.

There are so many of us who had this idea probably in this forum. Start from the micros, going to climb to the top and become a PRO.
Wondering overall how likely it is to make it these days going PRO. We all know it takes mad dedication to get there. If anyone would ask me from microstakes these days, I would say it requires you to give up your life and career to give it a shot and probably still not a good enough percentage that you will ever get there. What does the forum think? Would you actually recommend anyone to give it a shot?

Yes, i do because I want their money!

oh, and everyone should always bluff with your weak hands and ignore my raises and calls. Thanks

I know it's all in the game yo, all in the game.