fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, BTN raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $17.28 and is all-in, BTN calls $4.63 and is all-in
Flop:($13.71, 2 players) Q J J
Turn:($13.71, 2 players) 7
River:($13.71, 2 players) 2
Spoiler:
Hero shows A A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 80%, Flop 92%, Turn 9%) BTN shows 7 7 (Full House, Sevens full of Jacks) (Pre 20%, Flop 8%, Turn 91%) BTN wins $13.09
yeah that makes sense.
@ dunna imagine you get a chance to VPIP and not pfr and you fold. Your VPIP will go down but your pfr stay the same so times when you can have VPIP lower than pfr can happen.
It can aslo be when you raise the buttom on your 1st round
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dunna100
Crayon, you need to work on your betsizing in 3bet pots mate
What bit are you referring to? I tend to cbet $1.20 or so in them positions, but given it was an UTG raise and a low board, quite drawy i bumped up the sizing quite an bit. I spose the turn sizing is too big, what bits are you pointing out?
What bit are you referring to? I tend to cbet $1.20 or so in them positions, but given it was an UTG raise and a low board, quite drawy i bumped up the sizing quite an bit. I spose the turn sizing is too big, what bits are you pointing out?
When the SPR is such that stacks are going in over three streets if there's a bet on each of them, you should be planning it so there's not a ridiculous overbet/underbet on one of the streets. In general, this means just over 1/2 pot in 3bet pots when 100bb deep, but in that spot if you want to get it in in two streets (can't see why tbh, he shouldn't really have draws there) you can pot the flop and shove the turn.
When the SPR is such that stacks are going in over three streets if there's a bet on each of them, you should be planning it so there's not a ridiculous overbet/underbet on one of the streets. In general, this means just over 1/2 pot in 3bet pots when 100bb deep, but in that spot if you want to get it in in two streets (can't see why tbh, he shouldn't really have draws there) you can pot the flop and shove the turn.
Yea i think that's what i was trying to do becuase of the draws, but logically he doesn't have many besides KQs
Hello. Quick bankroll question, how many BI for heads up play as opposed to 6max? Due to increased variance, assuming my BI for 6max is 100BI, how much would i increase it to be "safe?" For example at 25nl heads up.
@Crayon - TDA explained it, but yeah u need to plan how u wanna get it in based on the usual variables
@UG - wp Sir
Re BI question, why are you using 100BI for 6max? Normally 20-30 BI is recommended. 100 for tournies, and I'd say maybe 50-75 for HU depending on your skill level and if you think you have an edge
@Crayon - TDA explained it, but yeah u need to plan how u wanna get it in based on the usual variables
@UG - wp Sir
Re BI question, why are you using 100BI for 6max? Normally 20-30 BI is recommended. 100 for tournies, and I'd say maybe 50-75 for HU depending on your skill level and if you think you have an edge
i assumed that 100bi was standard, thanks for clearing that up.
Meh, dunno if there's ever enough villains at this level raising river as a bluff to make this a call. Def played fine up until then but there's actually a fair few conbos ur behind that he can have here
I was pretty sure he wasnt doing it for bluff, I thought he could have JJ-88, 66 very very unlikely he had some weirdly played A7. Against that range I have 40%, not counting A7 so it could be a thin call here.
If I remove JJ however which seems logical as he is going to 3bet it pre almost all the time, I have just 13% equity which make it an easy fold.
Question is, do you take the same line as villain did here ? If not, what and why ?
That would depend a lot on how he views you.
I'd prob take this line vs aggro players as we could be good still on turn if they barrel scare cards and have a draw to the straight/boat
Raising turn would be awkward with stack sizes so think call is fine, esp if oppo will stack of with TP+ like most at this level no matter what the board is
I'd fold to the river shove in hero's spot, we're calling to chop and he looks competent (and not THAT aggro), given it's a paired board JT would already be thin in his spot and 99, 88, 66, 76, 87 are all feasible here (certainly I wouldn't be raising a boat at any point before that).
Actually, looking at the spoiler in villain's spot in theory I think it's best to gaybet the river (though I'd probably just be a fish and c/r in practice) - Tx or better will most likely raise for value because it looks like a 7 or 5x blocking, and worse than that xbs a lot anyway. Furthermore, standard 10NL villains aren't bluffing your spot too often (certainly a lot less often than they should be).
Yeah its a fold. Pretty much impossible he has JT and floats two streets oop with it, and I doubt he calls with 87/76 in sb.
Reasons I dont RIT - Sorry for raw HH, cant find a converter for hands which have been run twice.
Spoiler:
PokerStars Hand #104718062850: Hold'em No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2013/09/28 2:36:14 IST [2013/09/27 17:06:14 ET]
Table 'Simona' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Malt3tz ($26.49 in chips)
Seat 3: dunduliog522 ($4.16 in chips)
Seat 4: asriva ($17.79 in chips)
Seat 5: Physs ($6.40 in chips)
Seat 6: JohnnyW8 ($19.11 in chips)
Physs: posts small blind $0.08
JohnnyW8: posts big blind $0.16
LackyGirla: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to asriva [As Kc]
Malt3tz: calls $0.16
dunduliog522: raises $0.48 to $0.64
asriva: raises $1.12 to $1.76
Physs: folds
JohnnyW8: folds
Malt3tz: folds
dunduliog522: calls $1.12
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ad 3d]
dunduliog522: bets $2.40 and is all-in
asriva: calls $2.40
*** FIRST TURN *** [Qh Ad 3d] [Qd]
*** FIRST RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3d Qd] [2h]
*** SECOND TURN *** [Qh Ad 3d] [4c]
*** SECOND RIVER *** [Qh Ad 3d 4c] [Qs]
*** FIRST SHOW DOWN ***
dunduliog522: shows [Qc 9s] (three of a kind, Queens)
asriva: shows [As Kc] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
dunduliog522 collected $4.17 from pot
*** SECOND SHOW DOWN ***
dunduliog522: shows [Qc 9s] (three of a kind, Queens)
asriva: shows [As Kc] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
dunduliog522 collected $4.16 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.72 | Rake $0.39
Hand was run twice
FIRST Board [Qh Ad 3d Qd 2h]
SECOND Board [Qh Ad 3d 4c Qs]
Seat 1: Malt3tz folded before Flop
Seat 3: dunduliog522 showed [Qc 9s] and won ($4.17) with three of a kind, Queens, and won ($4.16) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 4: asriva (button) showed [As Kc] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens, and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: Physs (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: JohnnyW8 (big blind) folded before Flop
Ran like aids today, two fishes on different tables just kept raping all the regs. Dropped like 75 in one sesh despite playing pretty much my A-game.
What's the best way to convert FPP's to T$ or real$ on stars? I'm a Silverstar, but even with the added benefits of Silverstar purchasing the money from the VIP store isn't too valuable.
Drooling fish tonight - unfortunately kept getting them on my left calling calling calling.
Felt like cbetting was only worthwhile with an actual hand, then proceed with care, as they will call until they hit some ******ed 2 pair.
+1BI to -2BI to BE over 600 hands.
Some really weird plays though.
1. Weird thing for villain to do, but seems fishy.
fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.18, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.45, BTN calls $0.32
Flop:($1.50, 3 players) T 4 J Hero bets $0.70, BB raises to $4.03 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $3.33
Turn:($9.56, 2 players) T
River:($9.56, 2 players) 2
Spoiler:
Hero shows A J (Two Pair, Jacks and Tens) (Pre 69%, Flop 16%, Turn 1%) BB shows T J (Full House, Tens full of Jacks) (Pre 31%, Flop 84%, Turn 99%) BB wins $9.16
3. Btw that villain remained 95/29 VPIP after 87 hands and kept luckboxing everyone, me plenty of times.
Think I played this ok - was ahead most of the way. Surprised he didn't raise river given his shove on previous hand.
River:($1.32, 2 players) 4 Hero checks, UTG bets $4.49 and is all-in, fold
Spoiler:
UTG wins $1.27
This last one intrigues me. He isn't a donk - he bets and raises a lot. So he has a strong range UTG. Lets say by the turn he has AQ/AT/QQ/TT why shove? If he has indeed rivered a full house (or even quads) doesn't he want to get called? And why bet so small on turn?
I was floating the flop with my draw, then called the small turn bet with my pair.
Sorry for so many hands!
Last edited by Studebaker Hawk; 09-27-2013 at 08:03 PM.