Hah. In the AK hand I figured he'd be snap-calling most A hi hands if I bet a standard size and he might well vbet the turn wider than he did. Perhaps xb is better but thoughts on bet size if we do decide to bluff this?

Dunna, I'll take a look at the video if you repost the link.

@outatime:

H1 I don't like raising the flop, this nit's range is basically always OPs and clubs with overs when he continues. It turns your hand into a bluff. With that in mind, based on your line I'd jam the river.

H2 I think 25NL is where you need to stop using such exploitable bet sizing. If you bet normally and iso UTG then betting bigger is fine but with semi-reggish players in the pot I wouldn't.

H3 you have to iso bigger pre. 3bb+1 for a limper (and for me, +1bb for iso'ing OOP but that's more optional). Flop, turn should be sized bigger, river is a bit iffy as played, on first glance it looks like a pretty clear x/f.

I love 3-betting light, and getting a crazy image at the tables.
I also love people prone to tilt.




Few hands later, after 3-betting him again BvB.



I guess he got a bit board of me winning against him and tried to bluff.





Overbet the river just since he seemed tilted, and I expected him to call lightly.
I guess he did just have air though.

H3 bet the turn. I prefer gaybetting the river to either get extremely thin calls or spazz-raises too, which is more likely as a consequence of tilt.

Just so you know from my perspective when grinding 5nl, so I think like assume good 10nl reg, average 25nl reg although maybe I'm modest, you are like one of the most profitable players I can play against because your ranges are so exploitable.

I've had multiple people with like 14% 3bets and it just makes my life so easy.

Yeah, there's probably no doubt that there are good players out there who know how to exploirt a 14% 3betting range.
At the same time though, at this low level, there's probably more bad than good players when it comes to adjusting. People adjust wrongly. His pocket 5's are a prime example of that.

14% isn't insane, 7-10% is probably standard and 14% isn't terrible if balanced a little.

Not sure you got the point of my post. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying be aware of it's pitfalls. If you're going to do something you need to be aware of how it actually effects your range.

It's much easier to start finding solutions for potential problems before we have to deal with them than it is trying to create them as we play, as you can see from what you're doing.

Ye, but you can pretty much guarantee it won't be anywhere close to balanced. Although I do think them numbers are probably a little high.

well definitely don't bet turn and xb river. for the most part i check turn and river, although depending on your range it might be best for you to bluff this hand. if that's the case i think you should vbet 99+ and do so for 75% pot

We're talking about 6max, right?

Yeah, I'd prob be OBing QQ-TT here too - is that a mistake?

in my opinion yes. i think maybe you want to do this because there's been a trend towards overbetting vs capped ranges, at least in theory?

i think overbets are best used when your range a) isn't clearly stronger by definition and b) is/appears to be more polarised

obviously thats theory based, there are plenty of situations where you might want to overbet for exploitative reasons

if you review why you think the guy shouldn't overbet Q9 i think you'll see why i don't think you should consider overbetting AK

Fishy shortstackers in the house today.

Happy to get it in ahead 3 way here. Lol at BBs hand. Not many hands on them at this point but they continued to swap small stacks back and forth with any high card or suited hand.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $3.34 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: $1.00 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 3)
UTG: $1.60 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: $0.96 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
CO: $1.40 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BTN): $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A J

fold, MP calls $0.04, CO raises to $0.16, Hero raises to $0.52, fold, BB raises to $0.88, MP raises to $0.96, fold, Hero calls $0.44, BB calls $0.08

Flop: ($3.06, 3 players) Q 4 5
BB bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

Turn: ($3.14, 3 players) 8

River: ($3.14, 3 players) 6



What's he repping with this turn raise? I think he reverse Baluga's himself.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.09 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $1.72 (VPIP: 2.82, PFR: 1.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
BB: $3.02 (VPIP: 35.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)
Hero (UTG): $4.27
CO: $5.34 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 50)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has 8 8

Hero raises to $0.12, fold, BTN calls $0.12, fold, BB calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.38, 3 players) 8 J 9
BB checks, Hero bets $0.26, BTN calls $0.26, fold

Turn: ($0.90, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $0.63, BTN raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $3.89 and is all-in, BTN calls $2.49

River: ($8.68, 2 players) 9



Tilted him nicely though
Next hand he open shoves. I would have called except for SB...

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $0.82 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: $1.70 (VPIP: 2.74, PFR: 1.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
SB: $2.90 (VPIP: 35.79, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 98)
Hero (BB): $8.11
UTG: $5.34 (VPIP: 18.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has Q K

fold, CO raises to $0.82 and is all-in, fold, SB calls $0.80, fold

Flop: ($1.68, 2 players) K 8 J

Turn: ($1.68, 2 players) 3

River: ($1.68, 2 players) Q



Next hand though!
Oh dear he bust and quit....

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $1.01 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: $1.70 (VPIP: 2.63, PFR: 1.32, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
CO: $3.65 (VPIP: 36.08, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
Hero (BTN): $8.05
SB: $5.36 (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 55)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, BB raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.42, 2 players) Q 2 4
BB bets $0.81, Hero calls $0.81

Turn: ($2.04, 2 players) 2

River: ($2.04, 2 players) J



More fish...BB must want to give money away! Daytime play is awesome - used to think it was all nitboxes, but no way!

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $4.00 (VPIP: 11.43, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
BB: $4.40 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $1.68 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: $12.02 (VPIP: 21.79, PFR: 18.59, 3Bet Preflop: 14.00, Hands: 160)
CO: $3.05 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BTN): $4.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has Q A

UTG calls $0.04, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, BB calls $0.12, UTG raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.12, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.86, 3 players) 5 5 8
BB bets $0.72, UTG calls $0.72, fold

Turn: ($2.30, 2 players) 3
BB bets $1.36, UTG calls $0.68

River: ($3.66, 2 players) 7

just to go a little further because i'm feeling frisky

imagine this river strat

vbet {44(1),22(1),TT+(27),AKss(1),AQss(1)} = 31
bluff {AsKc,AsKd,AsKh,AcKs,AhKs,AdKs,AsQh,AsQd,AsQc,AhQs ,AdQs,AcQs} = 12

12/43 = 28%

river potsize = 10.84 75% = 8.13
8.13+10.84 = 18.97
8.13/(18.97+8.13)= 0.3

just did that kinda quickly and there are a few issues with it but you're close to making him indifferent

5nl 6max

Almost at the 10k hands mark, and its going pretty well so far since the move up from 2nl, with a winrate of 18.73 BB/100.

Bankroll is $178.13.

My current goal is to get my bankroll to $200 and then take a shot at 10nl.

^Interesting red / blue lines.
Mine are pretty much the opposite.

@ telford At 178 I think you're good to take a 10nl shot...Waiting until 200 would mean you feel that you need 40 BIs at your current stake before even taking a shot at 10nl? seems a bit too nitty imo. To each its own though.

-5 BIs in under 1k hands.... Jesus ****ing christ what a night. Looks like its time to get back on the 10nl tables.

These are both kind of coolers but more importantly they're hands I misplayed the **** out of.

when you have rly good hands betting is a rly good idea

Don't patronize me I noted above they were bad hands. I had reasoning for my plays, esp. against that villain.

edit: villain loves to double/triple with air, basically valuetowning himself... unless/until he hits random backdoor flush/ 2 outers. Then my plan goes to ****.

What do you expect him to call with in Hand 1 that you beat?

H1 is wayyyyy too thin to raise. Esp on a 3 flush board.

smokesx:
H1 raise flop
H2 4 bet pre
You're welcome.

For TDA and anyone else who fancies a look. Appreciative of any comments.

Sorry Dunna I got more than half way through and was keeping my notes in the reply box but my laptop restarted itself and I lost everything

Anyway, some hands from today. iPoker definitely fishy in the day.

1. UTG is a maniac, BTN is weak tight. Don't see BTN doing this without at least NFD. Think my flop squeeze was undersized but I was struggling to keep up with the action...

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $4.79 (VPIP: 30.26, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 4.20, Hands: 394)
Hero (BB): $4.14
UTG: $2.04 (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 19)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BTN: $8.04 (VPIP: 19.90, PFR: 14.56, 3Bet Preflop: 1.64, Hands: 213)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K J

UTG raises to $0.12, fold, BTN calls $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.38, 3 players) 7 9 5
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.26, BTN calls $0.26, Hero raises to $0.76, UTG calls $0.50, BTN raises to $3.42, fold, UTG calls $1.16

Turn: ($4.98, 2 players) 5

River: ($4.98, 2 players) 8



2. Stationed!! I guess the board doesn't matter to this guy.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $1.89 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (MP): $4.04
CO: $1.00 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
BTN: $3.43 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $5.86 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $12.69 (VPIP: 18.97, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 1.27, Hands: 261)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K A

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, BTN calls $0.12, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.30, 2 players) 5 7 7
Hero bets $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70, 2 players) J
Hero bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

River: ($1.50, 2 players) J
Hero checks, BTN checks



3. Maniac - same as H1 - gets stacked. I had seen him stacked by trying a similar move previously.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $11.07 (VPIP: 29.15, PFR: 12.56, 3Bet Preflop: 3.62, Hands: 451)
Hero (SB): $4.70
BB: $2.59 (VPIP: 52.08, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 50)
UTG: $6.71 (VPIP: 19.83, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 250)
MP: $4.00 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
CO: $6.89 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, BB raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.72, BB calls $0.52

Flop: ($1.44, 2 players) 8 K K
Hero bets $0.72, BB raises to $1.87 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.15

Turn: ($5.18, 2 players) 2

River: ($5.18, 2 players) 8



4. Mr. Weak Tight again. Didn't really expect him to fold to a cbet if he called pre, his ftcb was very low. Wasn't really sure what to do on flop and turn tbh. Check it down? Called the turn bet because it seemed like a steal and he'd do it with AK or AJ.

iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $4.34 (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (CO): $4.18
BTN: $0.96 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
SB: $5.62 (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: $5.10 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: $10.80 (VPIP: 19.27, PFR: 13.45, 3Bet Preflop: 1.15, Hands: 283)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A K

UTG raises to $0.12, MP calls $0.12, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.36, fold

Flop: ($1.14, 2 players) 9 2 Q
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.14, 2 players) 2
UTG bets $0.68, Hero calls $0.68

River: ($2.50, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero checks