Yeah I'd like to stop making extremely light hero calls. They can make or break a session.

I think I'm going to change my game completely too. I usually play 30% of hands, so I might tighten up a bit do I have less a chance of value towning myself.

What VPIP do you guys play at? Is 30 too loose or can you still crush while playing 18 - 25?

My VPIP tends to go down with the amount of tables i'm playing.
Against unknowns i play tighter. When i know the villains (like on iPoker) i'm able to adjust my VPIP. I've noticed that i've played 16-18% vpip on stars lately, since i always table select unknowns.

A good guideline for any micro limit is to only 'hero call' if villain's line is completely FoS or you're capped.

I played around 22/19 and was a loser at 5nl. I don't think these stats say very much in itself, since it were just a couple of bad river calls and things like that which brought my winrate down a lot.

Thing is, if a vpip of 30 works for you, thats fine. But you might have trouble playing with a vpip of 22, while for others this may be the most profitable vpip to play with. IMO, bringing your vpip down a bit is not going to hurt your game, especially because you're (probably) going to be in less marginal spots, which can make your life a lot easier. If you really want to work to get your vpip(/pfr) lower, it might he useful to make a starting hand list with pokerstove. Though I absolutely hate starting hand ranges (they are completely opponent-based), it will give you some insights in what ranges you'd normally play and what ranges you want to play if you change your game. I had to lower my vpip too a while ago, and I noticed that when I tried it without using those pokerstove charts, I was just joking around with my range and ended up with basically the same vpip/pfr

lol donkaments

AK < KQ for the chiplead gg

I just noticed my river call efficiency when facing triple barrels is really high at 2.4, might be a leak as I'm probably folding the best hand a lot...

Here's a few hands where I folded to river cbets. Should I have called any of them, or otherwise played differently?

1) Multiway I think I shouldn't be raising as I want more people in the pot when I hit my flush. On the river his line looks very strange. The bigger made me feel he would have tp beat, but in retrospect he also has so many missed draws there that perhaps I should call?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $10.87
SB: $3.20 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: $3.10 (VPIP: 28.36, PFR: 22.39, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 71)
UTG: $5.00 (VPIP: 13.16, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 38)
MP: $6.98 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J Q

fold, MP raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.62, 4 players) 4 7 5
BB checks, MP bets $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.15

Turn: ($1.07, 3 players) 8
BB checks, MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, fold

River: ($1.87, 2 players) Q
MP bets $1.26, fold


2) With so many possible bad turns and rivers, should I consider raising flops like this?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.84 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: $13.96 (VPIP: 26.03, PFR: 21.92, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 75)
BB: $8.75 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: $7.89 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 13.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
MP: $30.74 (VPIP: 19.21, PFR: 9.36, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 209)
Hero (CO): $12.66

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 9 9

fold, MP raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 5 6 2
MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.77, 2 players) J
MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.57, 2 players) K
MP bets $0.75, fold


3) To bluffcatch or not to bluffcatch?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $5.30 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: $4.29 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
Hero (SB): $5.09
BB: $8.47 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
UTG: $5.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 7 7

fold, CO raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45, 3 players) 6 8 5
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold

Turn: ($1.05, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($2.45, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, CO bets $1.60, fold


4) The bet small/bet small/bet big line always confuses me. Would I have been better of raising at some point?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $2.33
SB: $3.24 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
BB: $2.00 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 26.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG: $4.34 (VPIP: 28.89, PFR: 19.10, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 92)
MP: $2.22 (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 18.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 51)
CO: $1.78 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T T

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 3 8 J
UTG bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.27, 2 players) J
UTG bets $0.11, Hero calls $0.11

River: ($0.49, 2 players) 9
UTG bets $0.37, fold


5) Sucks to be oop. I should probably fold turn if I'm going to fold to a river shove in this spot...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $3.22 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $6.11 (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 27)
Hero (BB): $5.36
UTG: $5.01 (VPIP: 12.77, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 96)
MP: $5.25 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $12.45 (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J T

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) T 6 4
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.02, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.55, Hero calls $0.55

River: ($2.12, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.17 and is all-in, fold

@quadas:

H1 I'd still raise the flop. We should have fold equity and we're not going to be too happy hitting our overcard 'outs' (as demonstrated), so the fact that we're not going to hit the flush that often should more than balance out the times we do hit and win a slightly smaller pot. As played, sigh-call the river, loads of missed draws (and we have near the top of our range but that prob doesn't matter in this spot).

H2, only raise the flop if villain is *really* bad. Hand looks WP.

H3 looks fine, I might consider folding the turn but probably wouldn't.

H4 call the river. Looks like busted hearts/clubs a lot of the time, basically never Jx and sometimes 99 (which should be the only hand in his range that beats you).

H5 looks fine.

Bad play from the reg. What is up with the min5b IP. He is asking me to call with all my Axs bluffs. either flat or 5bet a decent size like 2x.
Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -
BTN: $189.37 - VPIP: 32, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.8, Hands: 555
SB: $50.00 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 1327
BB: $71.74 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 6.0, Hands: 547
Hero (UTG): $113.96
MP: $32.45 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 8, AF: 1.8, Hands: 216
CO: $196.36 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.6, Hands: 2069

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9.75, BTN raises to $16, Hero calls $6.25

Flop: ($32.75) 5 3 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $21.50, Hero calls $21.50

Turn: ($75.75) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $48.50, Hero raises to $76.46, BTN calls $27.96

River: ($228.67) T (2 players)

Final Pot: $228.67
BTN shows K K
Hero shows A A
Hero wins $226.17
(Rake: $2.50)

Not sure about turn. SB seems like a decent player. Pre is standard, flop is standard, turn is debatable for fold or call, river is pretty mandatory after calling turn. I can't call turn and fold to another barrel that's just burning money. I don't think I have enough hands on villain to be doing this though. he could be a station reg and just never even think about folding KK/QQ here. My line is just so nuttish though.

Poker Stars $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -
BTN: $39.60 - VPIP: 40, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 35
SB: $105.09 - VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3B: 17, AF: 2.1, Hands: 147
BB: $26.25 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 2.5, Hands: 1092
Hero (UTG): $84.92 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.4, Hands: 1377241
MP: $28.48 - VPIP: 35, PFR: 22, 3B: 13, AF: 2.0, Hands: 23
CO: $73.77 - VPIP: 50, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 4

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with 9 8
Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, SB raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 6 5 3 (2 players)
SB bets $5.00, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($20.50) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $10.50, Hero calls $10.50

River: ($41.50) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $18.00, Hero raises to $64.42, SB folds

I think if I have reads that villain can fold decent hands its fine but other wise its a bit spewy. Only need him to fold ~50% of the time though.

I didn't realise Gamma was such a nitbox.

19/16??? nah ha thats cause I have 500k FR hands in there from last year, running at 22/19/7.5 over last 100k hands

Guys, have uploaded another video for review at Youtube if anyone would like to take a look?

It's 10nl Zoom 2 tables.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrDuQdn64oI

Think I generally played ok, and there's a pretty funny pot near the end where I get stacked against a fish but **** happens.

Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks

Edit: Going to the gym now (Sept goal!) so if anyone's got any questions or comments from watching it I'll get back to you later

gamma: 32/21 you consider reg? Suppose it depends what you mean by reg, but I'd call that LAGgy myself, then differentiate between good LAG and fish LAG.
Don't have many good LAGs in my db tbh

Sb in h2 hes 20/18

Played Omaha 8 today at the casino

Called a river bet with the 2nd nut lo, lost to the nut lo. I had no pair so I insta-mucked

Villain had T high for the hi, I had a J. Bye bye $100 pot

Carry on

All I know is CO has 3bet AQo vs steal, never seen him 4bet before. 300bb deep I wouldn't be comfortable getting it in with QQ and didn't really know what to do on flop. Since I wasn't gonna go for 3 streets of value I decided to check for pot control and bet turn instead. I'm not conserned about the FD, because I think he would have bet that. When he leads the river I'm fairly sure he's got AK or sometimes TT (or sometimes even K3o if he plays and runs anything like other villains I've faced at this stake). Really can't see him bluffing in this spot as AK would be a fairly large portion of my range here as well.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $15.80
SB: $5.77 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
BB: $2.96 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG: $6.40 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP: $3.41 (VPIP: 16.36, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 57)
CO: $14.09 (VPIP: 30.30, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 15.63, Hands: 67)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.44, fold, fold, CO raises to $1.39, Hero calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.85, 2 players) 4 T 3
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.85, 2 players) 3
CO checks, Hero bets $1.24, CO calls $1.24

River: ($5.33, 2 players) K
CO bets $3.66, fold

Can't say much more other than bet the flop. You'd be betting any air hands there when he checks so gotta bet for value too

I'd bet flop too, though I can find myself somewhat in your logic of checking flop and betting turn. If you x flop and bet turn, your line looks a lot more bluffy and you might get called by AK (AQ maybe??), where as you bet the flop, villain is going to fold his AK/AQ a lot more often.

Fwiw, I think you can discount everything but AQ+ and QQ+ from villains range according to action pre. Usually I see people flatting hands like TT and JJ vs a 3bet when they are OOP. Maybe its different when you're 300 bb deep, dont really know tbh.

Anyway, your line looks fine to me. I think a more interesting question would be what you would do if river came a a third club (9c for example) and villain fired the exact same ammount. Is that a call? I think it would be, but there are prob different opinions about that

Edit: nvm, third club on the river is prob a fold

bet flop, you fold out equity and can be called by worse. If you don't want to go for 3 street check back river.

If his range is AQ+, QQ+ it's a fold pre unless he has some huge leak we are aware of, which clearly isn't the case or it'd be mentioned.

If his range is AQ+, QQ+ by the time we get to the river and the turn is a blank it's a really easy call. If the river is a K it's a really easy fold.

You should know this from spending 5 seconds using an equity calculator before you post.

If his range is AQ+, QQ+ it's a fold pre unless he has some huge leak we are aware of, which clearly isn't the case or it'd be mentioned.

If his range is AQ+, QQ+ by the time we get to the river and the turn is a blank it's a really easy call. If the river is a K it's a really easy fold.

You should know this from spending 5 seconds using an equity calculator before you post.


edit - And I advocate putting villain on a range pre and basing our last preflop decision from this range. It doesn't matter if your range is wrong but it's something you really need to do. You also need to be more aware of your range in this spot, I'd imagine you're never flatting AA or KK there. As a result it's so easy to apply pressure and get you to fold as your range is so capped and you aren't going to play back as a bluff anywhere near enough when people do this because you're so worried about villains range.

I'd probably bet/fold flop and bet turn if called against an unknown.

Anyone playing the gripsed tourney right now on Bovada?

BRAND new to poker. Playing on Bovada. Deposited $50 (total credits: $270ish, total debits: $235ish, net: $35ish). Started on .05/.10 6MAX then moved to .10/.25 6MAX, now at .25/.50 FR. Entered one SNG $8+.50 and came in 4th, though I was chip leader majority of the game (made some DUMB choices). I just downloaded Poker Tracker, so hopefully will have some stats soon.....as you can see I lose most of my money, rebuild it, lose it again, rebuild it, etc. REALLY need to figure out how to stop that cycle.

Goals:
[] Educate myself best I can via books, videos, forums. (Im new, so currently searching for best forms and sources)
[] Research strategies
[] Play a **** ton of hands (need experience)
[] Properly manage my bankroll and dont get sucked into over extending myself
[] Learn when to step back and force myself to take a break if I start playing like ****

I try to do this, but with relative unknowns at uNL zoom, they might sometimes turn up with very unpredictable stuff.

I filtered my 6max zoom db for hands where any villain open raised and 4bet UTG or MP with >80bb stack (and went to SD so I know what cards they did it with). The results were quite surprising. Small sample size of only 169 hands, but out of these only 81 are QQ+/AQ+. Most of the remaining hands are junk. Adding the filter "NOT 22+ or AT+ or KQ" returns 70 hands. 70 out of 169 4bets were made with junk!!!

However, if I add the filter "went all in preflop", which usually implies called 5bet shove, I'm left with 73 hands. 65 of these are KK+/AK. Only one junk hand is found in this category.

While the sample size is small, I think this is a pretty clear indication that QQ should call the 4bet and never 5bet vs unknown UTG/MP 4bettor. However, after calling the 4bet it is really really hard to assign a range postflop. So it seems it's QQ+/AQ+ about 50% of the time, but the rest it can be virtually anything. Unless of course I have some more specific reads on that particular player.

Edit: I should also add that after 70k hands of zoom, I don't have a sample size of UTG/MP 4bets >1 on any player, those 169 4bets were by 169 different players. This makes it kind of hard to have any reads on what kind of hands a particular player 4bets.

XC XC donk line form fish is the nuts nearly 100% of the time. annoying when you only have half PSB left behind :/

Should probably say that I failed my challenge wooo!

Got everything set up for a solid grind over the next few weeks though. Time to get my life back on track, both poker and other ****.

May even make a blog.