Play the 235fpp Sunday storm sats and then unregister and sell the T$


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I feelike every possible question about 5nl/2nl can be answered by black rain's blog or his book "crushing the micros takes"

H1, I'd flat this as a standard but isolating BTN is fine with him in the hand. Postflop looks good.
H2 I'm not 3betting this unless BTN is defending wide over a decent sample or BB is squeezing wide, I'm flatting it most of the time. Flop looks fine (though I do yearn for the days that we could happily b/f top pair in any given spot vs an unknown).
H3 pot the flop, pot the turn, river sizing is fine as played.
H4 I'm not cbetting.
H5 is a snap call IMHO. You only need about 45% equity against his range and it's very tough to make sets, plus a lot he'll just be spazzing here.
H6 you look like you have an ace. People don't fold aces at uNL. Furthermore a lot of your range is 2P hands. He has KJ minimum.

Just had a swingy session (3 swings of at least 3BI during the 1.2k hand session - I don't know why I play Zoom sometimes) but ended up up 3BI playing my A-game (from about B minus-game at the start).

Hands:

1) I should probably cbet here but as played, can I raise the river? He shouldn't have Tx often but I'm worried he's going to struggle to call without it.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $42.73
SB: $77.83 (VPIP: 20.82, PFR: 16.73, 3Bet Preflop: 7.29, Hands: 276)
BB: $8.89 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: $76.67
MP: $80.63 (VPIP: 6.06, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)
CO: $34.27 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 21)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

UTG raises to $0.62, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.38

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) J 3 K
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($4.35, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.73, UTG calls $2.73

River: ($9.81, 2 players) Q
UTG bets $4.75, Hero calls $4.75



2) Should be folding this river. I levelled myself thinking he had mostly pairs pre and he might be bad enough to play a set like this.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $24.65 (VPIP: 13.25, PFR: 12.05, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 85)
SB: $38.04 (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: $83.04 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 53)
MP: $19.69 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (CO): $26.57

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.85, 2 players) A 3 7
Hero bets $1.16, BTN calls $1.16

Turn: ($4.17, 2 players) T
Hero bets $2.62, BTN calls $2.62

River: ($9.41, 2 players) J
Hero bets $5.93, BTN raises to $20.12 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.19



3) Obviously this is just a cooler but I'm conflicted between raising the flop for value and keeping the fish in the pot for the probable double barrel (because villain's cbet range should be strong here).

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $25.73
SB: $65.44 (VPIP: 14.86, PFR: 8.88, 3Bet Preflop: 4.87, Hands: 531)
BB: $36.47 (VPIP: 10.77, PFR: 4.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 65)
UTG: $7.60 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 20.65, 3Bet Preflop: 16.22, Hands: 94)
MP: $14.00 (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 17.90, 3Bet Preflop: 6.94, Hands: 168)
CO: $16.68 (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $0.87, fold, BB raises to $2.60, CO calls $2.35, Hero calls $1.73

Flop: ($7.90, 3 players) 7 3 2
BB bets $3.77, CO calls $3.77, Hero calls $3.77

Turn: ($19.21, 3 players) Q
BB checks, CO bets $10.31 and is all-in, Hero raises to $19.36 and is all-in, BB calls $19.36

River: ($68.24, 3 players) 9



4) Standard fold readless? And standard call with the Ad?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $66.82 (VPIP: 27.37, PFR: 25.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 97)
SB: $24.40 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
BB: $23.45 (VPIP: 18.32, PFR: 10.69, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 133)
UTG: $27.61 (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 78)
Hero (MP): $43.88
CO: $38.08 (VPIP: 19.94, PFR: 16.68, 3Bet Preflop: 6.48, Hands: 1,074)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K A

UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.25

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) 6 3 K
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.28, UTG calls $2.28

Turn: ($8.91, 2 players) 2
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.68, UTG raises to $13.00, fold



5) Next two hands are protecting a range in action. Same villain.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $48.91 (VPIP: 21.03, PFR: 14.13, 3Bet Preflop: 4.38, Hands: 642)
SB: $61.07 (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 74)
BB: $25.69 (VPIP: 17.22, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 158)
UTG: $30.72 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
MP: $8.81 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (CO): $50.32

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A A

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN raises to $2.10, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5.25, BTN calls $3.15

Flop: ($10.85, 2 players) T 6 5
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.25, Hero raises to $12.52, BTN calls $9.27

Turn: ($35.89, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $32.55 and is all-in, fold



6)

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 9.90, PFR: 8.07, 3Bet Preflop: 1.35, Hands: 393)
SB: $40.86 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 168)
Hero (BB): $71.63
UTG: $26.79 (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 14.26, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 643)
MP: $49.82 (VPIP: 18.30, PFR: 13.25, 3Bet Preflop: 8.24, Hands: 241)
CO: $87.25 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 33)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J J

UTG raises to $0.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.10, 2 players) 9 T Q
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($4.10, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, UTG checks

Hero: I had air.

River: ($4.10, 2 players) K
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

That's just not correct though. It depends on lots of things, playing 6max hypers when you don't know how to play them is just a huge waste of value.

Most people with aspirations of playing higher are better off just saving them till they hit SN.

You can't be serious that's terrible advice

There's very little strategy involved in these things

Top two get in out of 6 and cashing in 40% with very little
Effort learning the game is doable

On a side note, thinking about giving up cash and playing a mid to high stake hypers. Apparently SNG's are the easiest way to male SNE

So you're planning to jump straight from microstakes full-ring cash into midstakes HTSNGs? I hope you keep running as hot as you have been.

You really have no clue. I don't mean this nastily or anything but anyone who thinks they are good at a game with very little effort doesn't realise how poorly they are playing.

I don't even think you begin to understand variance in these things at all and because you've ran hot you think you for some reason you've got the games solved.

And I really do say all this in a way that I hope makes you look at your own game and realise you aren't anywhere near as good as you are because it's really for your own benefit.

If you do start grinding HT's I really do suggest starting out at 3.50s regardless of your roll (assuming it's not smaller than 100 BI's) and playing a good few thousand and really making sure you have an understanding of what you're doing. You can lose a lot of money playing these things in a very short space of time even when you're playing really well, so it's better to start that process lower down than it is playing 15s.

edit - As for the advice that I gave to Olly, it really isn't bad advice at all. Assuming the aim is to get better there's no point spending his FPP and losing value on it when they are worth more later if he does move up. Also starting playing 235FPP hypers when you have no clue how to play them is also a waste of FPP because he isn't going to have **** loads of FPP.

http://www.pokerstars.com/vip/calculator/

Do the math yourself

wow @ this comment, and MMSS's rant

I'm was talking about playing those fpp sats to the sunday storm, described here

http://www.blackrain79.com/2011/09/h...tars-fpps.html

As for the hypers, obv I need to learn how to play properly before I start playing mid- to high stakes

If this was directed to me, then no haven't played much last couple of weeks as been working long hours and then away weekends.

Need to get in some hands this weekend as my Stars reload bonus runs out on Monday and I haven't quite worked it all off yet.

I have some experience in SNG's. Managed to convert 1,300 FPP's into T$33 using the 235fpp Satties which isn't too bad. That's a LOT more than I'd get from buying milestone cash in the VIP store which is good.

I don't know if I'd recommend 235FPP satties with only 1,300 FPP's to play with though. It could be a bit risky I think. If you had 10BI's for the satties you could make a fair bit back but it depends on how you run really.

What do you guys do in this kind of situation.

Villain is TAG 17/14 over 372 hands, 6.2AF, 10% 3bet (13.9 in BB but not huge sample size)

Villain has cbet 3/5 times in 3bet pots, and barrelled turns 100%

If we call flop are we calling down all blank turns and rivers?

Yeah this is pretty standard when starting off imo lol.

You start by telling yourself you'll stick to the rules, you hit the ground running, when it slows down you feel its maybe you, you play different, tilt, move up, bam.

Is this real life? I'm wondering if we're speaking the same language.This is the third person that has completely misunderstood what I was saying.

I suppose I'm not explaining myself properly

YOU DON'T ACTUALLY PLAY IN THE SATS AFTER YOU BINK A SEAT... YOU UNREGESTER AND KEEP THE MONEY SO YOU CAN SELL THE T$

EVERYTHING IS EXPLAINED IN THE LINK I POSTED EARLIER.

I hope I made myself clear

NEWAYS

I'm running so good in zoom nl25

br 1175

My goal is to be 24 tabling nl50 by the end of next month

Thanks for that.
Seems like no major mistakes then.
Thought H1 was a decent spot to squeeze - I don't squeeze enough.
H6 I suppose you're right but I don't think villain would see me as fishy so I'm never calling worse. Fish might never fold Ax but I will and he should see that.

Anyway, your hands:
1. Yeah, cbet flop always I think. I think he will call a raise - do people fold sets often? Depends how competent he is I suppose.
2. He looks like a nit. Should be a fold I think.
3. Ouch, sneaky mother****ing BB! Can't see him checking turn as a good play tbh. Flop doesn't seem like a board you need to raise on.
4. Seems fine.
5. & 6. lol, you levelled him, wp.

Lol... You did NOT just say that.
I know exactly how it works. I've already sold some T$. What I was saying was that I wouldn't recommend playing the 235FPP satties unless you have a fair amount of FPP's as the few games I've played had already shown how high the variance of such games can be.

"I'm wondering if we're speaking the language" is indeed quite an ironic statement to make. The language you seem to speak seems to be the one in which you put words in others mouths.

But to quote you, "I suppose I'm not explaining myself properly".

Just to keep the atmosphere in here friendly...

Pretty sick, keep it up! Must be nice, especially since you were still playing 2nl and 5 nl not too long ago.


Speaking about moving up, I'm about to move up to 5nl soon!!!1!1!11!! My volume is still lol, but I'll try to get in 7 hours of poker a week + trying to review every session. I noticed that when I keep doing it for a while, I actually enjoy stoving hands and it really helps for improving my game. Still, I should read more books/watch more vids :/

TY
I've been screwing around with 2nl/5nl for a couple of years still.. dedicate yourself and it shouldn't' take long to move up in stakes at 25nl

The language isn't unfriendly here, just aggressive

I wouldn't worry about the time to move up - hands played is more important than time, but then we all have our own rates of learning

I moved up to 5nl after about 20k hands of 2nl FR and then 10k hands of 2nl 6 max but it took a year to play those 30k hands (plus donking around in SnGs and stuff).

Volume was an issue for me until late last year, but for me, I can put in lots of volume nowadays and I figure I can go for SN next year if not SNE

Funnily enough, I'm just looking at the VPP levels now.
SNE is 10x SN - a huge difference!

Recently started playing at PS and not sure I'll even hit 500VPPs for the year...5nl is so poor for rakeback, especially 4 tabling a few evenings a week.

Anyone have any thoughts on the hand I posted?

yeah 4 tabling 5nl sucks, why are playing so few tables? double your tables ang get out of 5nl as quick as possible to avoid paying rake

That`s one of the reasons why I want to move up to 50nl ASAP!!!

BTW, according to to the pokertars vip calculator on their website, I can make supernova this year if I 22 table 25nl FR for 6 hours a day, and two table 25nl Zoom for 2 hours a day.

I`M DEF GOING FOR IT

I`m def calling flop and trying to get to SD for cheap OBV. A lot of guys at 10nl seem to be Cbet and quit guys. If a K comes and he barrerls I`m probably just folding. Guys love 3betting Kx hands and Cbetting dry double paired boards IMO

Hey guys!

Hand 1

How will you play this hand?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $17.71 (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 44)
UTG: $11.65 (VPIP: 43.59, PFR: 41.03, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 39)
CO: $7.89 (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: $10.79 (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 24.62, 3Bet Preflop: 23.08, Hands: 65)
Hero (SB): $19.61

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) 2 6 6
Hero bets $1.00, BB raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1.40

Turn: ($6.60, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BB checks

River: ($6.60, 2 players) A
Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00



Hand 2

Fine? Villain did 3bet with A3 and AA before....

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $16.50 (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 36.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 52)
UTG: $10.59 (VPIP: 25.91, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.16, Hands: 224)
MP: $10.55 (VPIP: 13.73, PFR: 9.80, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 52)
CO: $20.88 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 52)
Hero (BTN): $12.79
SB: $10.00 (VPIP: 19.48, PFR: 16.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 77)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, BB calls $0.80, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.75, 3 players) 7 8 4
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.50, fold, CO raises to $4.00, fold