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09-10-2013 , 08:03 AM
Villain is 27/24 after 22 hands.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $8.83 (176.6 bb)
UTG: $9.17 (183.4 bb)
MP: $3.15 (63 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.07 (101.4 bb)
BTN: $6.78 (135.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, MP calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.77) 3 2 Q (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.45, MP calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.67) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.67) 2 (2 players)
MP bets $2.35, Hero calls $2.35

Thoughts on checking turn? I suppose I could half pot the turn, but I feel this keeps in a lot of villains hands which he might think he can bet for value such as JJ, TT, KQ, which might fold if I bet the turn and it always gives him the chance to bluff shove his missed draws and other random crap.
09-10-2013 , 08:12 AM
KQ never folds turn and should rarely fold river. You might get a river x/c from JJ/TT instead of a x/f OTT but I wouldn't count on there being a difference at 5NL, and you don't compensate for all the missed value from KQ, AQ.
09-10-2013 , 08:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
@Gamma, H1, wtf is he calling there for, if you know?
I have absolutely no idea. I thought he was bad but didn't think he was that bad. His stats seem decent enough, and lol I thought I had some fold equity jamming the turn

H2: not sure really, only need very few bluff hands to be in his range to make it a +Ev call. Even if he does have 77 I have 25% equity. Worst case I have 25% equity best case I have 75% equity and there is a decent amount in the pot.

@MMSS yeah triple barreling AA there all day. I'd go 2/3PSB too like I would if I had a 4/FD/set/AQ or AK if I decided to barrel it.
09-10-2013 , 08:48 AM
@MMSS: I would bet turn. Assuming he is a fish (stacksize) (his stats say nothing because of samplesize) he is def going to call with every Qx, with all his FD's and some med pp's. (JJ, TT, 99, 88, 77).
09-10-2013 , 08:50 AM
@TDA & Gamma - You are both aware that he's short ye? If I 2/3PSB it then he'd have basically nothing on the river.
09-10-2013 , 08:51 AM
These two hands were against the same fish.


    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BTN: $4.22 (211 bb)
    SB: $2.36 (118 bb)
    BB: $4.76 (238 bb)
    UTG: $0.93 (46.5 bb)
    Hero (MP): $3.06 (153 bb)
    CO: $3.16 (158 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J A
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 3 folds, BB calls $0.04

    Flop: ($0.13) 4 8 5 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.10, BB calls $0.10

    Turn: ($0.33) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BB calls $0.22

    River: ($0.77) 4 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.45

    Results: $1.67 pot ($0.06 rake)
    Final Board: 4 8 5 8 4
    BB mucked A 2 and lost (-$0.83 net)
    Hero showed J A and won $1.61 ($0.78 net)


    I later got reads that...

    1) He calls down EXTREMELY loosely.
    2) He min-donks with any connections to the board.

    Using these reads I decided I'd overbet/raise the turn. Kind of wondering if I could have milked him for even more value though if I had shoved, or whether he would have folded or not. I expect him to min-donk/call Ax and possibly some draws, but I'm unsure if he'd call a turn shove with his draws.

    Should I have just overbet/jammed it here?

      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      BB: $4.09 (204.5 bb)
      CO: $4.24 (212 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $4.12 (206 bb)
      SB: $2.64 (132 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 4
      CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, CO calls $0.06

      Flop: ($0.19) 4 4 A (2 players)
      CO bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.24, CO calls $0.22

      Turn: ($0.67) 2 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.02, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $1.48

      River: ($3.67) 6 (2 players)
      CO bets $0.14, Hero raises to $2.30 and is all-in, CO folds

      Results: $3.95 pot ($0.14 rake)
      Final Board: 4 4 A 2 6
      CO mucked and lost (-$1.96 net)
      Hero mucked A 4 and won $3.81 ($1.85 net)
      09-10-2013 , 09:01 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by MMSS
      @TDA & Gamma - You are both aware that he's short ye? If I 2/3PSB it then he'd have basically nothing on the river.
      No, I didn't notice. Your flop sizing is pretty bad in that case. I'd make it smaller as there are no draws and we can play three streets, but you can also make it big enough to shove the turn.
      09-10-2013 , 09:34 AM
      Quote:
      Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
      No, I didn't notice. Your flop sizing is pretty bad in that case. I'd make it smaller as there are no draws and we can play three streets, but you can also make it big enough to shove the turn.
      +1

      My bad for not reading the HH carefully enough. Your check isn't half bad then since he's short but I tend not to leave betting up to people unless I know for sure he is going to both value bet thin and bluff at a decent frequency. I'd go ~65c OTF and jam turn.

      If we had the ace of spades I'd be more inclined to get it in over 3 streets.
      09-10-2013 , 09:41 AM
      Hating myself for this call.
      Villain was reggish - I guess he's raising flop with sets and flush draws.
      So river is a fold.
      I was wrong though!

      iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: $5.44 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
      BTN: $5.46 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 19.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
      SB: $4.96 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 19.54, 3Bet Preflop: 16.00, Hands: 267)
      BB: $8.52 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 31.82, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 22)
      Hero (UTG): $4.50

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has A K

      Hero raises to $0.12, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, fold

      Flop: ($0.28, 2 players) 4 A 9
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.19, SB raises to $0.59, Hero calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.46, 2 players) 8
      SB bets $0.73, Hero calls $0.73

      River: ($2.92, 2 players) 5
      SB bets $3.36, Hero calls $3.06

      Spoiler:
      SB shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 52%, Flop 15%, Turn 5%)
      Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 48%, Flop 85%, Turn 95%)
      SB wins $8.44
      09-10-2013 , 06:26 PM
      Tough day, but last few orbits won some stacks to bring me a small winning day from being 2BI down.

      1. Suppose it was a flip in the end but his limp/call/donk shove seemed to make no sense. Can't see a value hand doing it. Kicking myself though.

      iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: $2.96 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      CO: $1.05 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 18)
      Hero (BTN): $6.32
      SB: $1.73 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      BB: $2.22 (VPIP: 73.33, PFR: 31.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 46)
      UTG: $4.68 (VPIP: 16.72, PFR: 6.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.93, Hands: 317)

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.06) Hero has K Q

      fold, MP calls $0.04, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, MP calls $0.12

      Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) 6 4 4
      MP bets $2.80, Hero calls $2.80

      Turn: ($5.98, 2 players) 4

      River: ($5.98, 2 players) 9

      Spoiler:
      MP shows 7 7 (Full House, Fours full of Sevens) (Pre 51%, Flop 52%, Turn 84%)
      Hero mucks K Q (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 49%, Flop 48%, Turn 16%)
      MP wins $5.59


      2. Nice when the fish make it easy for you though. Not sure what he thought he had otf. Suppose he was trying to make better hands fold!
      It was his first hand at the table. Unsurprisingly he played about 6 hands out of 6 before busting again and quitting.

      iPoker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: $3.33 (VPIP: 22.18, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 2.46, Hands: 288)
      UTG: $5.41 (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 15.52, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 119)
      MP: $5.00
      CO: $7.33 (VPIP: 64.00, PFR: 27.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 101)
      BTN: $2.14 (VPIP: 31.65, PFR: 17.27, 3Bet Preflop: 4.92, Hands: 139)
      Hero (SB): $5.51

      Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.04, MP posts DB $0.04

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.10) Hero has 9 9

      fold, MP raises to $0.08, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.06, BB calls $0.04

      Flop: ($0.24, 3 players) 9 7 2
      Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.04, Hero raises to $0.24, fold, MP raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.24, MP calls $0.80

      Turn: ($2.72, 2 players) Q
      Hero bets $1.90, MP calls $1.90

      River: ($6.52, 2 players) A
      Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $1.78

      Spoiler:
      MP shows A 4 (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 33%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
      Hero shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 67%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
      Hero wins $9.41
      09-10-2013 , 09:11 PM
      @ dunna watched the first 25 min
      Quote:
      0.30 - K8o fold vs loose BB. Too hard to play OOP when called.
      1.55 - JTo prob a cebt. can barrel club or 8 or higher. close though.
      2.43 - 62o I minrasie as a standard but i'd minraise here even if you don't vs two nits with no stats on you.
      5.30 - AQo fold to turn bet. When he checks flop he has something so its just XF all the way.
      5.55 - KJo might be a flat vs a fishly looking player UTG. Folding is fine but its close. KQ is a definate flat.
      8.15 - T6s barrel turn, you have equity with him implied odds when you hit and can get him to fold underpairs and 8x.
      9.28 - A6o not sure what the 3bet is value or bluff? value is too thin and you have a lot of better hands to 3bet as bluff like weak jxs and txs. A6o is a profitable flat so no need to 3bet.
      11.45 - K9s same as above. K9s is a proftiable call so no need to 3bet it. You can flat really wide BvB so that means your 3bet bluffs need to weaker than usual.
      15.55 - KQo think we have to barrel here.
      16.26 - AQs I prefer a check. betting doesn't really acomplish much.
      18.40 - 98s turn your hand into a bluff OTR. bet like 2/3PSB. you have no SDV.
      20.35 - QQ massive value missed. 3bet GII. I'd be 3betting GII w TT maybe 99 and AJs+, AQ+. Raise flop larger. Your giving him good odds. $1.20 at least.
      24.47 - id prob fold riv if he has an AFq of 2.0. he isn't bluffing enough and some draws/2p made it. I like your check back OTF vs certain opponents though.
      09-10-2013 , 09:13 PM
      H1 is obv fine, sometimes you'll be dead but that's more than evened out by the times you have like 75% equity against worse high card hands.

      I'd prob lead the flop in H2, and consider a 3b pre.

      Had a good day today. Hands:

      1) Not sure if this should be a call. The open is a little loose but I saw BB's stack size and the fact that I had 0 hands on him and really wanted to play pots vs him IP.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $25.00 (VPIP: 24.11, PFR: 17.73, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 144)
      SB: $3.77 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
      BB: $12.14
      UTG: $17.77 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 9)
      MP: $32.77 (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 96)
      Hero (CO): $25.00

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8 5

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, SB raises to $3.77 and is all-in, fold, fold

      Spoiler:
      SB wins $1.75


      2) Not sure if raise turn or raise river is better here. Don't really like his call because I'm very rarely bluffing here, esp given stack sizes.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $11.54 (VPIP: 26.05, PFR: 16.82, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 346)
      SB: $10.50 (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.06, Hands: 361)
      Hero (BB): $47.88
      UTG: $6.44 (VPIP: 29.32, PFR: 16.54, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 134)
      MP: $11.60 (VPIP: 14.41, PFR: 10.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 243)
      CO: $98.36 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9 K

      fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.62, Hero calls $0.37

      Flop: ($1.24, 2 players) 2 K 9
      SB bets $0.76, Hero calls $0.76

      Turn: ($2.76, 2 players) 8
      SB bets $1.71, Hero calls $1.71

      River: ($6.18, 2 players) 7
      SB bets $3.00, Hero raises to $9.54, SB calls $4.41 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Hero shows 9 K (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 29%, Flop 79%, Turn 93%)
      SB mucks Q K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 71%, Flop 21%, Turn 7%)
      Hero wins $20.06


      3) River is meant as a vbet. Too thin? I'd have sized it smaller but I think I get more calls when my line looks dumber based on my sizing.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): $52.49
      SB: $33.61 (VPIP: 27.23, PFR: 22.49, 3Bet Preflop: 8.84, Hands: 472)
      BB: $42.32 (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 79)
      UTG: $18.72 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
      MP: $25.38 (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 17.44, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 87)
      CO: $42.38 (VPIP: 20.49, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 4.51, Hands: 380)

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A 6

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.62, fold, BB calls $0.37

      Flop: ($1.34, 2 players) 3 8 9
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($1.34, 2 players) 8
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($1.34, 2 players) 6
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.84, BB calls $0.84

      Spoiler:
      Hero shows A 6 (Two Pair, Eights and Sixes) (Pre 33%, Flop 15%, Turn 14%)
      BB shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Eights and Sevens) (Pre 67%, Flop 85%, Turn 86%)
      BB wins $2.88


      4) River line?

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $17.71 (VPIP: 15.65, PFR: 9.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.91, Hands: 387)
      Hero (SB): $50.06
      BB: $21.29 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
      UTG: $25.40 (VPIP: 17.58, PFR: 10.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 190)
      MP: $12.75 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 10.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 77)
      CO: $17.02 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

      Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K K

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) A 4 J
      Hero bets $0.94, BB calls $0.94

      Turn: ($3.38, 2 players) 9
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

      River: ($5.88, 2 players) K
      Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4.00

      Spoiler:
      Hero shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 70%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
      BB mucks 5 A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 30%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
      Hero wins $13.26


      5) I was so sad not to get a call here, especially considering in the limited sample he'd already folded to a river overbet of mine.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $6.65 (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 15.49, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 147)
      SB: $22.04 (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 42)
      BB: $16.01 (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 29)
      Hero (UTG): $89.21
      MP: $55.37 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      CO: $26.93 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T T

      Hero raises to $0.87, MP calls $0.87, fold, BTN calls $0.87, fold, BB calls $0.62

      Flop: ($3.58, 4 players) T 8 K
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.25, MP calls $2.25, fold, fold

      Turn: ($8.08, 2 players) 3
      Hero bets $5.09, MP calls $5.09

      River: ($18.26, 2 players) K
      Hero bets $32.81, fold

      Spoiler:
      Hero wins $17.44


      6) This spot sucked ass. He should never have anything here, and nor should I, but I don't want to play for 200bb stacks with TPGK.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $43.60 (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 26.83, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 85)
      SB: $34.43 (VPIP: 32.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
      BB: $28.59 (VPIP: 17.58, PFR: 12.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.01, Hands: 264)
      UTG: $29.00 (VPIP: 15.15, PFR: 9.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.10, Hands: 337)
      MP: $4.92 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)
      Hero (CO): $59.74

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K Q

      fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, fold, fold

      Flop: ($2.60, 3 players) 5 2 7
      MP checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($2.60, 3 players) Q
      MP bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, BTN raises to $9.00, fold, fold

      Spoiler:
      BTN wins $9.17


      7) Not sure if his river sizing should make me more or less happy to call.

      PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: $29.14 (VPIP: 32.08, PFR: 22.64, 3Bet Preflop: 2.22, Hands: 107)
      SB: $74.67 (VPIP: 13.36, PFR: 7.29, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 249)
      BB: $41.47 (VPIP: 22.77, PFR: 13.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 104)
      Hero (UTG): $50.87
      MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 10.30, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 3.39, Hands: 168)
      CO: $26.24 (VPIP: 21.87, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.76, Hands: 698)

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K Q

      Hero raises to $0.87, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.87, fold, fold

      Flop: ($2.09, 2 players) 8 K 8
      Hero bets $1.32, BTN raises to $3.50, Hero calls $2.18

      Turn: ($9.09, 2 players) 6
      Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero calls $5.00

      River: ($19.09, 2 players) T
      Hero checks, BTN bets $19.77 and is all-in, fold

      Spoiler:
      BTN wins $18.23
      09-10-2013 , 11:36 PM
        WPN, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19397371

        BB: $20 (40 bb)
        UTG+2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
        MP1: $52.14 (104.3 bb)
        MP2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
        MP3: $21.25 (42.5 bb)
        CO: $54.76 (109.5 bb)
        BTN: $77.69 (155.4 bb)
        Hero (SB): $38.42 (76.8 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 8
        5 folds, BTN raises to $1, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50

        Flop: ($3) 8 7 5 (3 players)
        Hero bets $1, BB folds, BTN raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, BTN raises to $76.69 and is all-in, Hero calls $25.42 and is all-in

        Turn: ($77.84) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
        River: ($77.84) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $77.84 pot ($3.25 rake)
        Final Board: 8 7 5 3 Q
        BB mucked and lost (-$1 net)
        BTN showed 4 6 and won $74.59 ($36.17 net)
        Hero showed 8 8 and lost (-$38.42 net)



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        GG 50 nl shot.
        09-11-2013 , 06:23 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
        H1 is obv fine, sometimes you'll be dead but that's more than evened out by the times you have like 75% equity against worse high card hands.
        Cheers.
        I figured he wouldn't do this with sets - although you never know with fish - but small to medium PPs are likely part of his range.
        I also think fish would do that with one pair hands.
        I see it often, they limp call with K6s and shove on a J63 board or something.
        I figured I had overcard plus flush draw equity so even against sets not totally dead, but couldn't calculate my equity on the fly.
        09-11-2013 , 07:46 AM


        Carlsberg don't do 5nl players, but if they did... They'd have a much bigger sample size.
        09-11-2013 , 09:38 AM
        Your win rate at 10NL is pretty poor
        09-11-2013 , 09:40 PM
        Rostucko'd a session (didn't realise until after the session though) - 5.5BI upswings within 600 hands are nice! Pity it was preceded by a 3BI downswing in 400!

        Some hands:

        1) I think this is an exploitative fold. Everything about this guy screamed 'BAD NIT' so he could well take this line with a flush, especially with a fish in the pot. I know I'm basically at the top of my range (Axcc excluded) and I'm guaranteed to have equity, but I really don't think I need to balance this spot to that extent.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $26.25 (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 19.38, 3Bet Preflop: 8.93, Hands: 165)
        SB: $29.69 (VPIP: 21.64, PFR: 15.98, 3Bet Preflop: 5.47, Hands: 770)
        BB: $35.57 (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 24.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
        UTG: $37.66 (VPIP: 22.84, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 8.01, Hands: 813)
        MP: $28.11 (VPIP: 24.17, PFR: 20.95, 3Bet Preflop: 9.21, Hands: 212)
        Hero (CO): $99.92

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A 7

        fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, BB calls $2.00, MP calls $1.50

        Flop: ($6.85, 3 players) 7 3 4
        BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $3.59, BB calls $3.59, MP calls $3.59

        Turn: ($17.62, 3 players) 7
        BB checks, MP bets $22.27 and is all-in, fold, fold

        Spoiler:
        MP wins $16.83


        2) Was considering a turn x/r until I saw his bet size.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $29.13 (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 15.57, 3Bet Preflop: 5.98, Hands: 627)
        Hero (SB): $59.24
        BB: $44.43 (VPIP: 23.56, PFR: 20.77, 3Bet Preflop: 9.33, Hands: 209)
        UTG: $95.93 (VPIP: 35.43, PFR: 21.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.90, Hands: 177)
        MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 17.59, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.37, Hands: 222)
        CO: $28.97 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

        fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

        Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 2 9 A
        Hero bets $0.94, BB raises to $3.60, Hero calls $2.66

        Turn: ($8.70, 2 players) 3
        Hero checks, BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

        River: ($23.70, 2 players) J
        Hero checks, BB bets $12.80, Hero raises to $39.32, BB calls $19.78 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Hero shows A K (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 66%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
        BB shows J Q (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 34%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
        Hero wins $86.86


        3) If this fish checks the river, can we vbet it?

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $28.41 (VPIP: 26.86, PFR: 22.29, 3Bet Preflop: 18.03, Hands: 180)
        SB: $8.51 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
        BB: $16.21 (VPIP: 28.46, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 133)
        UTG: $14.57 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
        MP: $84.53 (VPIP: 16.23, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.52, Hands: 391)
        Hero (CO): $64.22

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q K

        UTG calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.75

        Flop: ($2.35, 2 players) 2 J K
        UTG checks, Hero bets $1.47, UTG calls $1.47

        Turn: ($5.29, 2 players) 6
        UTG checks, Hero bets $3.30, UTG calls $3.30

        River: ($11.89, 2 players) A
        UTG bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

        Spoiler:
        UTG shows A T (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 60%, Flop 22%, Turn 14%)
        Hero mucks Q K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 40%, Flop 78%, Turn 86%)
        UTG wins $15.65


        4) #yoloverbet

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $30.87 (VPIP: 16.54, PFR: 9.40, 3Bet Preflop: 0.97, Hands: 541)
        Hero (SB): $25.00
        BB: $31.71 (VPIP: 16.57, PFR: 12.19, 3Bet Preflop: 4.51, Hands: 371)
        UTG: $44.86 (VPIP: 25.35, PFR: 21.20, 3Bet Preflop: 7.87, Hands: 226)
        MP: $66.58 (VPIP: 45.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 20)
        CO: $26.97 (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 57)

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J A

        fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero calls $0.65, fold

        Flop: ($1.75, 2 players) 9 J 7
        Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

        Turn: ($3.95, 2 players) J
        Hero bets $2.48, CO calls $2.48

        River: ($8.91, 2 players) 2
        Hero bets $20.67 and is all-in, CO calls $20.67

        Spoiler:
        Hero shows J A (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (Pre 60%, Flop 65%, Turn 91%)
        CO shows 9 8 (Two Pair, Jacks and Nines) (Pre 40%, Flop 35%, Turn 9%)
        Hero wins $48.25


        5) He doesn't need to overbet this turn vs my range, I should be folding nearly all of my range to a normal sized DB here and the line he took makes no sense.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $27.17 (VPIP: 21.85, PFR: 16.32, 3Bet Preflop: 5.48, Hands: 735)
        Hero (SB): $51.26
        BB: $46.15 (VPIP: 23.39, PFR: 21.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 172)
        UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 28.30, PFR: 22.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 53)
        MP: $13.55 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 60)
        CO: $26.70 (VPIP: 18.53, PFR: 15.78, 3Bet Preflop: 6.54, Hands: 563)

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7 6

        fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

        Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6 T 2
        Hero checks, BB checks

        Turn: ($1.50, 2 players) J
        Hero checks, BB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

        River: ($9.50, 2 players) 5
        Hero checks, BB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

        Spoiler:
        BB shows 9 Q (High Card, Queen) (Pre 60%, Flop 24%, Turn 32%)
        Hero shows 7 6 (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 40%, Flop 76%, Turn 68%)
        Hero wins $22.44


        6) Thoughts? I know I rep 2 combos (maybe QQ-TT, 54s if I flat that) but I figured he'd be barrelling wider than he did.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $27.01 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 6)
        SB: $7.00 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 48)
        BB: $62.03 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
        UTG: $35.09 (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 18.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
        Hero (MP): $25.35
        CO: $65.26 (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 16.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 263)

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

        UTG raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.35

        Flop: ($1.90, 3 players) 4 4 2
        BB checks, UTG bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45, fold

        Turn: ($4.80, 2 players) 2
        UTG checks, Hero bets $3.02, UTG calls $3.02

        River: ($10.84, 2 players) J
        UTG checks, Hero bets $13.80, UTG calls $13.80

        Spoiler:
        Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Fours and Twos) (Pre 45%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
        UTG shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Fours) (Pre 55%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
        UTG wins $36.71


        7) Lost on the turn + river.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $38.41 (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
        SB: $30.16 (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 32.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
        Hero (BB): $25.00
        UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 19.43, PFR: 14.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 252)
        MP: $39.77 (VPIP: 20.16, PFR: 18.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 134)
        CO: $24.90 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

        SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T Q

        UTG raises to $0.75, fold, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.50

        Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) 9 8 2
        Hero checks, UTG bets $1.56, fold, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG calls $2.94

        Turn: ($11.35, 2 players) J
        Hero checks, UTG bets $8.00, Hero calls $8.00

        River: ($27.35, 2 players) 5
        Hero checks, UTG bets $11.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.75 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        UTG shows K Q (Flush, King High) (Pre 71%, Flop 84%, Turn 100%)
        Hero shows T Q (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 29%, Flop 16%, Turn 0%)
        UTG wins $48.85






        ...actually, looking back at these and realising overbetting is the common theme, I think I've realised why my sessions are a little swingy.
        09-11-2013 , 10:03 PM
        TDA, in H1, is the line perhaps too aggressive for villain? I know I'm really new at this but it seems to me that the move they pulled would be really bad if they had a strong hand there. Just wondering.

        I think H2 is well played, by calling the turn bet it's way more likely that you're going to get all of the money ... I need to be more mindful of such things in my game.

        H3, I'd say I'd throw out a small v-bet, maybe even slightly less than 50%. What do you think of that? You do see lots of people taking that line with A-high but usually I see it more with two overcards so I think that eliminates a fair number of those Ax combinations. I'd imagine a check there really moves their range to being draw-heavy. Am I on the right track?
        09-11-2013 , 10:10 PM
        A lot less time to play/post these days though I have found time to finish reading through The Mental Game of Poker 2. Hopefully in the coming days I can spend some time focussing on the activities in it and the first book.

        Generally speaking I think I played well enough - really paid attention to stats and my notes and signed off immediately when I felt that play slipping beyond recovery.

        Ran into three situations where I'd just appreciate any advice with my play.

        H1: Did I play this hand too aggressively considering my PF call?

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        SB: $27.63 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
        BB: $25.25 (VPIP: 18.31, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 72)
        UTG: $25.47 (VPIP: 15.59, PFR: 12.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.18, Hands: 576)
        Hero (MP): $27.69
        CO: $17.01 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 10.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
        BTN: $25.75 (VPIP: 19.90, PFR: 5.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.47, Hands: 194)

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has T T

        UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold

        Flop: ($1.85, 2 players) 6 7 4
        UTG bets $1.40, Hero raises to $4.00, UTG calls $2.60

        Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) 2
        UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, UTG calls $5.00

        River: ($19.85, 2 players) 3
        UTG checks, Hero checks

        H2: How is my bet sizing?

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        SB: $24.75 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
        Hero (BB): $26.37
        UTG: $9.04 (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
        UTG+1: $37.28 (VPIP: 16.96, PFR: 13.91, 3Bet Preflop: 6.02, Hands: 234)
        MP: $32.06 (VPIP: 7.94, PFR: 7.94, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 63)
        CO: $38.39 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
        BTN: $18.63 (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

        SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A 6

        UTG calls $0.25, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

        Flop: ($1.00, 4 players) T 6 A
        SB checks, Hero bets $1.00, UTG calls $1.00, fold, SB calls $1.00

        Turn: ($4.00, 3 players) 5
        SB checks, Hero bets $3.00, UTG calls $3.00, fold

        River: ($10.00, 2 players) 8
        Hero bets $7.50, fold

        H3: I was planning to fold to any aggression in this situation. How did I do?

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        UTG: $7.97
        UTG+1: $62.70 (VPIP: 40.74, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 30.00, Hands: 27)
        MP: $10.60 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 35)
        CO: $8.65 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
        BTN: $31.85 (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 13.60, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 231)
        Hero (SB): $27.95
        BB: $25.00 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J Q

        fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

        Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) 6 J T
        Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00, fold

        Turn: ($4.25, 2 players) 2
        Hero bets $2.00, BB calls $2.00

        River: ($8.25, 2 players) T
        Hero bets $4.00, fold
        09-11-2013 , 10:53 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
        Your win rate at 10NL is pretty poor
        I'm putting it down to negative variance on the sample.
        09-12-2013 , 12:08 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
        5) He doesn't need to overbet this turn vs my range, I should be folding nearly all of my range to a normal sized DB here and the line he took makes no sense.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $27.17 (VPIP: 21.85, PFR: 16.32, 3Bet Preflop: 5.48, Hands: 735)
        Hero (SB): $51.26
        BB: $46.15 (VPIP: 23.39, PFR: 21.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 172)
        UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 28.30, PFR: 22.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 53)
        MP: $13.55 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 60)
        CO: $26.70 (VPIP: 18.53, PFR: 15.78, 3Bet Preflop: 6.54, Hands: 563)

        Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 7 6

        fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

        Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 6 T 2
        Hero checks, BB checks

        Turn: ($1.50, 2 players) J
        Hero checks, BB bets $4.00, Hero calls $4.00

        River: ($9.50, 2 players) 5
        Hero checks, BB bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

        Spoiler:
        BB shows 9 Q (High Card, Queen) (Pre 60%, Flop 24%, Turn 32%)
        Hero shows 7 6 (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 40%, Flop 76%, Turn 68%)
        Hero wins $22.44


        6) Thoughts? I know I rep 2 combos (maybe QQ-TT, 54s if I flat that) but I figured he'd be barrelling wider than he did.

        PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
        Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

        BTN: $27.01 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 6)
        SB: $7.00 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 48)
        BB: $62.03 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
        UTG: $35.09 (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 18.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
        Hero (MP): $25.35
        CO: $65.26 (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 16.54, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 263)

        SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

        Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A K

        UTG raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.35

        Flop: ($1.90, 3 players) 4 4 2
        BB checks, UTG bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45, fold

        Turn: ($4.80, 2 players) 2
        UTG checks, Hero bets $3.02, UTG calls $3.02

        River: ($10.84, 2 players) J
        UTG checks, Hero bets $13.80, UTG calls $13.80

        Spoiler:
        Hero shows A K (Two Pair, Fours and Twos) (Pre 45%, Flop 26%, Turn 14%)
        UTG shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Fours) (Pre 55%, Flop 74%, Turn 86%)
        UTG wins $36.71


        wrt to others A7 c/f flop, AKhh nh, AJ nh, QT fold flop, betting turn and x/f river > c/c turn, c/c river
        09-12-2013 , 03:32 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by gamma001
        @ dunna watched the first 25 min
        Thanks for this Gamma, really appreciate your time in having a look.

        Did anyone else have any comments?

        No probs if not. As I said before though, reviewing your own video is actually pretty handy as you can look at it in a different perspective than when you're actually playing, or just reviewing big hands afterwards. New leakfinding tool discovered!
        09-12-2013 , 03:48 AM
        Dunna, my exams end today, I'll watch and comment in a few hours time.
        09-12-2013 , 03:49 AM
        Thanks mate, no rush as I'm away for the weekend anyway

        Good luck with your exams!
        09-12-2013 , 07:06 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by outatime
        Ran into three situations where I'd just appreciate any advice with my play.
        Hand 1: raising flop against UTG cbet I think you're valuetowning yourself too often. I just call here.

        Hand 2: well played, river perhaps slightly smaller ~$6-ish.

        Hand 3: check river, maybe make a tough call. Don't see much value in betting.

              
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