Meh, never a fan of raising paired boards as it just always looks FOS.

You can't discount overpairs, or maybe even any pair if he's stubborn enough, esp 77-TT

River looks fine as played. Don't like the flop raise, pre is prob a misclick.

Yeah agree with both of yous i'm not happy with how I played flop. Prob should have Xcalled planning to XR a lot of turns.

He tanked down to the last few seconds with KTs so happy enough with my river assessment that he would be folding nearly everything.

Thats something I need to work on. That and maybe adding some more stats on my HUD

Barrelling all day here or checking at some point?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $4.28 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: $3.36 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: $5.74 (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: $7.25 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 6 5 J
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) A
Hero bets $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

River: ($1.67, 2 players) 6
Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80



The perils of slowplaying a big hand and letting your opponent see a free card.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: $6.13 (VPIP: 6.90, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 30)
MP: $5.36 (VPIP: 63.64, PFR: 45.45, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (CO): $5.16
BTN: $5.05 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: $12.10 (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J J

fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, SB raises to $0.60, fold, MP calls $0.55, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.85, 3 players) Q Q 3
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.85, 3 players) J
SB bets $1.30, fold, Hero raises to $4.56 and is all-in, SB calls $3.26

River: ($10.97, 2 players) 9

Stude, x/c turn in H1, as played x/f river.
Bet the flop in H2, as played flat the turn and jam the river.

Yeah, looking back at it, the only hand that is calling my turn jam is Qx so I'd be folding out a lot of hands which may continue on river.

Name a single hand that is calling you that is worse OTR or what better hand is folding?

Pretty fundamental flaw in your logic that you would want to concentrate on. It will add a lot to your bottom line.

Flush draws would call otf and ott but not otr, but what do you do? Check/fold to the bluff?
No hands on this guy unfortunately, but plenty of PPs will call down all the way here.

The majority of players aren't aggressive enough on the river at any stake so at 5nl it's doubly true. You exploit people when they aren't being optimally aggressive by checking and getting to showdown with marginal hands(which KJ is on this board)and also folding any time they bet. So yes XF the river. As an overall line id prefer bet, XC, XF like TDA said. Betting turn isn't too bad though. How don't just bet because there are FDs out there. They make up a small part of your opponents overall range.

You also should take into account that he will be raising a lot of his flush draws before the river. And most of his busted flush draws are going to be Ax which beat you.

Pocket pairs are 3rd pair at best on this river. Unless someone is a complete monkey fish they aren't calling a triple barrel with 3rd pair

Hmm, I agree.
Yet I am constantly told "just bet bet bet against these fish"...
worse WILL call!

when you have TP good kicker

Things are starting to suck less this month

24 tabling 10nl



Hopefully I'm back on track

Anyone watched DC Search&Destroy series? Is it any good?

I just watched the first episode where he goes through different report stats, what their values should be and what filters to run if the stats are not good. Main thing I learned was that my WTSD is standard, W$SD is really good, Won w/o SD is really good and WWSF is really good. I guess this is some kind of indication that with patience my winrate will follow...

The only stat that was way off was turn cbet success. He said <42% is bad, but for me it seems to settle down at about 32% at all different stakes where the sample is big enough. Is this because people aren't floating with air as much at the micros and mostly have a hand when we get to the turn? Or could I be doing something terribly wrong when it's so low?

You might be cbetting the wrong types of boards too often

I'm sure I am and that's one thing I'm trying to work on. But should that stat really be as high as >42%? If I made half of my turn cbets on bad boards where villain folds only 20% of the time and I cut out that half, then I would reach this number...

Mine is 42.4% over 100k hands at 50nl/25nl and I still need to work on my cbetting a bit more.

I'd imagine your cbetting game needs a bit of work and the fact your playing the small micros which means you have less fold equity.

edit what are your cbetting stats? if you have too much of a gap people might be floating you quite often.

Just played a short session of 5nl zoom (500 hands) and tried to loosen up a little bit as I run a bit too tight in these things, had a look at my stats and was running 16/14 lol.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $2.72 (54.4 bb)
SB: $13.65 (273 bb)
BB: $3.57 (71.4 bb)
UTG: $4.59 (91.8 bb)
MP: $11.90 (238 bb)
Hero (CO): $6.54 (130.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J J
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN folds, BB calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.67) K 4 6 (2 players)
BB bets $0.45, Hero folds

Unsure as to whether this is bad or ok. May aswell get some opinions on it, will give it a proper look tomorrow.

The pre 4bet sizing is probably quite horrible, but I was really torn as what to do. Folding isn't horrible as JJ is probably pretty close to the bottom of my range here but I dunno.

I think pre is fine but I don't think you can find a fold on the flop. The 1/3 pot donk bet looks pretty weak on that board.

I was completely lost in this hand..... but I didn't think the villain repped anything on the river

PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 108.1 BB (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 9.26, 3Bet Preflop: 6.51, Hands: 651)
CO: 274.6 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 10.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.76, Hands: 344)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.96, PFR: 11.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.29, Hands: 542)
SB: 201.9 BB (VPIP: 16.44, PFR: 9.62, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 1,277)
Hero (BB): 146.7 BB
UTG: 259.3 BB (VPIP: 27.12, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 59)
UTG+1: 232.7 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG+2: 102.9 BB (VPIP: 14.74, PFR: 11.13, 3Bet Preflop: 4.09, Hands: 668)
MP: 791.7 BB (VPIP: 42.75, PFR: 33.27, 3Bet Preflop: 19.52, Hands: 1,065)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, 9 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3.3 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 19 BB, fold, CO calls 11 BB

Flop: (44.3 BB, 2 players) 4 K T
Hero checks, CO bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB

Turn: (78.3 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (78.3 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 19 BB, CO raises to 238.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 91.5 BB and is all-in

lol nice try.
But seriously: 2NL full ring + antes?
Sounds hideous.

Okay, I definitely need some work then! This might be some fundamental flaw in my game that has been there all the time, because I see the same 32% at all different stakes at different sites since I started playing 2 years ago. Though up until one month ago I played FR, people would have stronger ranges postflop there, I suppose. But it has still stayed at the same 32% at 6max. I'm guessing the problem is a combination of betting too often on bad turns and failing to fire that second barrel when I should do it.

My flop cbet is too high and the gap too wide, I'm working on how to fix that. I've read the COTW and the "why u suck at uNL" on cbetting, but those don't go very much in depth, especially on double barreling. Any good threads/books/videos on how to evaluate that turn card?

I'm also struggling to grasp some of the reasons not to cbet. It's for example said that monotone flops are bad for cbetting, but I have a cbet success rate of 55% on those HU. As long as it's that high, I'm printing money cbetting them every time, right (assuming minimal reads o opponent as is often case at zoom)? Sure, if someone noticed that I do this it would be very exploitable as I obviously cannot take any aggression most of the time, but at uNL zoom where it takes forever to get any kind of sample sizes nobody will ever get any reliable stats on this. Other than that I'm finding it hard to see any reasons not to cbet... Or is this one of the spots where my logic is flawed?

I personally find c-betting to be something that's done too frequently. I think it's good to X when you've got some form of showdown value, especially against passive opponents who aren't likely to bet.

For instance, you open in UTG with 22 and the flop comes Q84r. If you cbet you're only going to get called by worse hands, so why not check? Same applies to A6o on T32r. A-high does have some form of showdown value versus a loose calling range so attempting to take it down to showdown isn't the worse of ideas.


How do you guys put in high amounts of volume without playing high amounts of tables? I really only want to focus on 2 - 4 tables, but want to play more hands a day.
I find it difficult. Some days I only play 400 hands. I'll win a few buy in's in that period (lolsustainablewinrate) and then leave from being scared of losing it all.

Hopefully when my orders of The Mental Game arrive it may help me figure out good ways to continue grinding without losing my mental capacity.

You mean called by better?
You want to be called by worse.
Personally, I find that in the above situation I am very rarely allowed to see showdown for free, so either a cbet or fold pre are my options usually.

I wouldn't worry too much about volume, I think it's over-rated for beginners.
I play 3-4 tables, 300-500 hands per day, but have days when I don't play.
Equals only about 5000-8000 hands per month but that's fine.
It just takes longer to be sure you're winning (or losing).

Monotone boards can be good for cbetting. It depends, a blanket statement like "never cbet monotone flops" is just not true.

I cbet, unless I have showdown value and hand is not really vulnerable. For example, I have KTo on a QT5 rainbow flop could be a good spot for checking it back and getting some value on a later street.