Raise size / odds question
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 274
Is there a 'tipping point' that you can raise to that will always leave your opponent without the right odds to call?
Say they bet 2/3 pot, if I 2.4x it they have odds to call with x part of their range, but 2.5x it they can only profitably call with nuts (or raise of course).
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 17,649
No.
Easy example: Flop AAA, your hand 72o, opponents hand AK. No matter how much you bet, the other guy shouldn't fold.
In fact, your opponent should never fold if he has >50% equity. Your 22 might be the best hand on T98dd, but are an underdog to your opponents AJdd.
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 107
There will be a point at which a raise/bet size starts to become less profitable.
Imagine the blinds are 0.5 & 1 and you get dealt KK every hand.
You open raise preflop with your KK heads-up, a profitable play. But now imagine you open raiseit to one million big blinds.
No sane opponent would call unless he was dealt AA. So you will win the blinds ($1.50) a lot. But lose far more when your opponent calls with AA.
This is an important consideration when sizing 3-bet bluffs in an mtt
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 13,256
Depends which parts of the range you are targeting and how big you go.
If you make a pot-sized raise, villain needs 33% equity, and it's usually the case that very few unmade hands have that much equity on the turn (assuming you have a made hand), but quite a few do on the flop.
If you make a 2x pot raise, villain needs 40% equity to break even.
3x pot requires 43%.
If you jam 10x pot, villain needs almost 48% equity to break even.
You can't make him fold hands that are flipping (let alone favourites) even if you jam an infinite amount of money.
