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09-06-2021 , 09:45 AM

STRAIGHTjacket

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So I'm playing 2NL, and let's say my opponent has a PFR of 4% over a few hundred hands, which according to Stove is 99+,AQs+,AKo. Which is the 4% strongest hands, right.

My question is: Is the average player at 2NL even aware of the
difference between suited and unsuited hands and incorporates
this into his/hers range? That they, in the above example,
elects to raise AQ suited, but not unsuited.

My argument is that if a average player at 2NL gets AQo he's
gonna raise anyway if it's suited. I think, but that's just my two cents, that a more realistic range should include the AQo and remove the 99.

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09-06-2021 , 09:51 AM

Yeodan

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I think most players are aware of the difference between suited and unsuited hands.
In the way that they'll play with suited hands much more often than unsuited hands.
Do they know why suited hands are so much better? Probably not.

A good UTG range, even for beginners, includes quite a few more hands than AQo+ and 99+

Really not sure what you're asking here.

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09-06-2021 , 09:53 AM

hyperknit

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I would generally assume that even the most brain dead noob knows that AQs > AQo

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09-06-2021 , 10:16 AM

Yeodan

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Originally Posted by hyperknit

I would generally assume that even the most brain dead noob knows that AQs > AQo

If we're purely talking about an RFI situation I don't think AQs has that much more value than AQo?

Suited cards play better post flop because they realize their equity more often right?
I think AQo is realizing plenty of equity already, suited or not.

Obviously there's the 2% extra equity, but that doesn't matter too much I think?
As far as I know it's all about the equity realization?

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09-06-2021 , 10:18 AM

Yeodan

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Hmm, there's also the added chance of making the nut flush, not sure how much value that adds, but at least some?

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09-06-2021 , 10:24 AM

STRAIGHTjacket

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Originally Posted by Yeodan

Im asking if I should adjust Villains PFR and include AQo or just leave it as is, to get a better representation of his range for analysis .

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09-06-2021 , 11:06 AM

Bdallstar11

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I agree most people know the difference between suited and non suited.

Is this 9 max or 6 max - average ranges differ quite a bit for UTG.

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09-06-2021 , 11:07 AM

Bdallstar11

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Originally Posted by Yeodan

Hmm, there's also the added chance of making the nut flush, not sure how much value that adds, but at least some?

Yeah the extra chance for the nut flush helps equity quite a bit

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09-06-2021 , 12:17 PM

STRAIGHTjacket

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Originally Posted by Bdallstar11

I agree most people know the difference between suited and non suited.

Is this 9 max or 6 max - average ranges differ quite a bit for UTG.

Sorry, its 9 max.

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09-06-2021 , 05:06 PM

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madlex

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Maybe some players at NL2 don't know or don't care about the difference between suited and unsuited.

Somebody playing a 4% range certainly does know though. That player made a decision to play ultra tight and therefore knows hand rankings.

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09-09-2021 , 09:25 AM

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Bdallstar11

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Sample size is important here. Over a few hundred hands isn't really enough info to go off of unless someone is really getting out of line.

I'd say standard play UTG range for the stakes and adjust as I received more knowledge.

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