I'm a former TAG trying to switch over to LAG. Now, I don't mean LAGtard. I mean LAG from decent position, knowing when to lay down, etc. I'd like to establish this style online before moving to live games (1-2 & 2-5).

Does it even make sense to try this at NL5 online or is that just dumb?

No but only to punish the limpers with any 2 a LOT

Don't try to be lag or tag just do what is best for each hand. Sometimes that means stealing ATC from the button against nitty blinds and sometimes it means laying down AQo in the SB when a super nit raises under the gun.

uh they dont fold anything imo so no.

ABC poker up to $25 I guess, although I myself are stuck at $5 lol.

Adjust to table conditions and don't worry about playing a certain style.

NL5 is the place for basic ABC poker, nothing fancy or risky. 99% literally let you run them over when you do that.

How good are you at hand reading??

Playing LAG is absolutely worth it at 5NL. You should always be playing a wider range vs weaker opponents.

Play tagfish those nl5ers won't know wat hit them

I played 24/21 successfully at 5NL.

You can play profitably running at 100 VP$IP at 5NL.

I have done it before on two tables as an exercise before, got the idea from the guy who made the video doing that at 10NL. It helps me to put myself in very mediocre situations and having to outplay my opponents.

What sucks about it is that if someone open shoves or raises too big. You must call if you want to complete the exercise (Although I cheat on this part and end up running like 97/10)

Is it worth doing for someone who is moving up through the levels? Probably not.

yea, this

lol, you should get a new training video guy, because it sounds like some lagtard donk idiot is making the videos you are learning from.

All this.

What do you find is a good preflop raise? I've been trying out 2.5-3xBB and I seem to get too many callers more often than not.

Anyone here play NL5 (.02/.05) regularly? If so, what type of preflop raise do you find yourself using more often than not?

I am stuck atm at 5NL so I can add my .05$ , I open to 4x everytime. I think less can put you in bad spots with too many people calling you.

the looser and fishier the players our, raise more. If they will call 10x BB raises then riase that much with your premiums.

For standard 3x - 4x, I don't play NL5, but personaly would raise pot cuz im lazy.

4x is pretty standard. could make it 3x from button instead though as it gives u a better price on a steal (i.e. has to work less often than raising 4x)

Developing new skills as a poker player is never dumb unless you do it with a large % of BR.

IMO predominantly depends how many tables your playing.

If you're happy enough single tabling then I say go for it, as its a pretty read dependent style both online and more so live. lotta love for the lags that 4table+ profitably from me.

I went through a stage of playing loose at 2NL on a few diff sites, something like 37/30 ish... but to get the most out of it I had to single tabling to sense weakness/strength more accurately and fully focus otherwise its just a spew orgy.

I felt a better player for it... currently experimentalising.... 6~8 tabling.. then at end of session... staying at best table and exploiting my ~10/8 nitty image with a lag game.

Mix it up. 3x for value into multiway pots against strong players and 4x+bb to isolate fish limpers headsup in position. cpfr & ccpf useful tho

at nl5 people will call preflop with anything

they will call the flop with anything

they will call the turn with anything

and they will call the river with anything

why play lag, putting yourself into a ton of difficult situations + you probably wont be able to play more than 4 tables, when you could 12 - 16 table playing 15/12 and kill it for 10bb/100+? Unless its not about money/br building, if so then I suggest you play some nl25 or something where you will get better practice.

LAG is very profitable for the few who play it at my local clubs. I want to be the one at the table that everyone needs to adjust to. We had a guy (before he moved) that would buy in to our $1/$2 game every week with $300 and would walk away with $1000-$1500 in his pocket on nights when he didn't spaz out.

My opinion is that LAG is much more profitable than TAG as long as you are good at it. Become a LAGtard and it's no longer profitable. I'm trying to learn LAG without becoming an idiot.

Well this guy was running hotter than the center of the sun.

Whether or not lag is more profitable depends on your opponents. All im saying is that at nl5 you will not get anyone to fold much so lag is probably not a good idea.

I agree that he probably does run hot at times but the fact remains that good LAGs force people around them to adjust, put people on tilt, and win lots of pots based almost exclusively on fear. I want to make that my default game, obviously adjusting when need be (good LAGs can do this).

However, I'd prefer to develop that style at the low levels online before taking it to the local 1/2 & 2/5 live games where mistakes are much more costly.

I was just curious if anyone plays that style effectively at the microstakes, knowing many fish can't find the fold button. LAGs rely a lot on FE and fear so I wasn't sure if microstakes was the way to develop this strategy.

Based on several responses, it does look like it is feasible to develop at these levels.

lol it's not even a training video, it was done mostly for entertainment. But there was some logic behind it. Forcing yourself to play every hand puts you in a lot of tough spots and kinda forces you to win lots of pots without showdown.

I have done it as an exercise but I would never suggest it as a strategy to build a bankroll. Can it be profitable at 5NL? Absolutely. The play is so gross that you can limp every hand and see every flop profitably.