There are some lines where I personally believe that people are not capable of bluffing often enough, for example check/raising the flop then overbetting turn and then jamming the river. Or triple barreling in position and jamming the river after overbetting turn.

You can think of other lines that seem/feel more value heavy without really knowing if it is or not - it is just your feeling.

Now let's imagine we face such a line against a player that is unknown to us and you have THE PERFECT bluffcatching hand against such a line.

What do you do?

One the one hand, you will consider your stake. The lower the stake, the less bluffs, right? Typically. But let's assume you play NL1000 6max cash.

Would you now bluffcatch more due to the stake or do you still think this line is underbluffed? Which other factors do you consider with a bluffcatching hand that, according to the solver is a mix call/fold? Do you always fold UNTIL you have very strong reads on the players?

What is your guys general approach? I am looking to fix and strengthen my mindset in such tough spots not to always find hero calls and to not get bluffed out, despite the line being perhaps underbluffed (underbluffed means that they are not bluffing MUCH but there ARE still bluffs sometimes).

Preflop flop and turn are all about the exact range youre facing, the price(now and future streets) and how much equity you have(and potentially how additional opponents may interfere with the equity distribution).

Future street action absolutely sucks for bluffcatchers that have little chance to improve to a winner. Flooding river ranges with such hands by calling flops and turns vs aggressive players is not advised imo. However getting to the river with such hands in checkdown pots does happen, and on the river there is no equity, no future action to consider. At this point your hand becomes part of a distribution which must be considered as a whole when the opponent bets. Busted draws that cant beat a bluff need not be considered. The hands that can beat a bluff, and all stronger combos must be considered as a total number of hand combinations.

The price youre facing on the river determines the portion of your range that should fold if your opponent has good bluff frequency. Learn river math.

I gotta start my day. But if you learn river math, hero calls based on feel will become a series of calculated exploitive strikes.

A follow up question regarding river math and the "series of calculated exploitative strikes". While this is a sound logic, you also said "if your opponent has a good bluff frequency". And this is my issue all in all. I can learn the right math and have the right calls according to the math but if my whole assumption is that their bluff frequency is not right and leans more often towards value every time in such aggressive lines as described before, aren't you then contradicting yourself? Do you mind explaining?

In simpler words: if they rarely/never bluff, the math will make me lose money by calling according to the math. What do I not understand?

adjusting your river strat to exploit a known tendency within a player pool is not "intuition" when u fold.

if u go sit in a random poker game, and make such an assumption that your opponents rarely bluff in this spot given only betsize as your reason, you'll probably get wrecked.

if u knew the math, you wouldn't need to make this thread.

i dont even disagree. if they dont bluff then u can exploit by folding more. if they bluff too much, you can exploit by calling more. the math will show u, but just looking at the math of river solutions doesn't cut it. you need to examine hands thru the river and do your own calculations so you can understand where this specific hand combo falls in YOUR distribution and how betsize affects folding frequency.

Thank you, I will get to work.

Good posts bob!

From a more removed perspective, I tend to call my best catchers vs most villains most of the time, but will fold average and bad catchers most of the time without reason to call. This depends pretty heavily on villain(s) in the hand, runout, action, positions, etc. Don't be afraid to adjust to villains and exploit, but poker is not really a game about making a lot of hero reads and feel plays. Understand the ranges and the game starts to make more sense.