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09-03-2009 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nuisance

IMO..Get a new Book
What would you suggest? Harrington on Holdem? Something else?

Speaking of Harrington, I see he has some books now on cash games. If you had to summarize the main differences between cash game strategy and tournament strategy, what are they? I'm not asking for detail, just the BROAD issue topics that have to be addressed, without addressing them. I like to know what to expect before I get that far.

Last edited by machaut; 09-03-2009 at 10:43 PM.
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09-03-2009 , 10:59 PM
I would say charts dont really work because as other people have pointed out, its all situational. If your table is aggressive, you tighten up. If they are tight, you loosen up and play A9o UTG etc.
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09-03-2009 , 11:29 PM
nl holdem is fn hard

While its true aq crushes a2x in preflop equity, more important would be initiative since you'll both miss often and player with initiative will win often with a cbet. Unless of course your opponent is a station or lookup artist. In this latter case, k10o goes up and a2x goes down.

Pretty much every time you flop tpgk with aq your not going to showdown anyway. Flop is Axx, u raised preflop and cbet and now villian raises. Your beat often here anyway.

Bottom line, if opponent calls loose, or raises flop wide, aq is a beast. If they call tight and dont make many moves, your gonna need a huge hand to win if your firing flop and turn and their still in there. In this case its better to have 45x because your takn it down with the c-bet alot and can pick up nice combo draws and such that can crack that set or tptk that your nutpeddling opponent is trapping you with.
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09-03-2009 , 11:52 PM
I second that "get a book" suggestion.

Grab something like Ryan Fees' 6-max ebook and start there, or a Harrington, and just get your feet wet with that. It doesn't make any sense for a beginner to try and write a starting hand chart for himself or anyone else without any experience.
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09-04-2009 , 12:01 AM
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Depends on the situation. i.e. - for early position, A2s and AQo are both calls, while several pairs in Group 1 are to be raised with. Change that to middle position, and AQo becomes more valuable. You raise with it, but A2s is still just a call.
By the way, you're probably better off just tossing the weak suited ace early, it's hard enough for experienced players to make work out of position. More than that, if you get in the habit of limping certain hands and raising certain other hands, you're making your hands very transparent.
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09-04-2009 , 12:26 AM
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It doesn't make any sense for a beginner to try and write a starting hand chart for himself or anyone else without any experience.
I didn't write it. I just posted it. That was clear.
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09-04-2009 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by machaut
What would you suggest? Harrington on Holdem? Something else?

Speaking of Harrington, I see he has some books now on cash games. If you had to summarize the main differences between cash game strategy and tournament strategy, what are they? I'm not asking for detail, just the BROAD issue topics that have to be addressed, without addressing them. I like to know what to expect before I get that far.
To honest I have never read a book. But the Harrington books are the most suggested on this site. I have subscriptions to Card player and Bluff. I enjoy those.

What I did learn I paid for at the tables and learned from reading these forums nad those 2 mags.

I am not much a book reader. which prob doesn't help my cause.
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09-04-2009 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by machaut
What would you suggest? Harrington on Holdem? Something else?

Speaking of Harrington, I see he has some books now on cash games. If you had to summarize the main differences between cash game strategy and tournament strategy, what are they? I'm not asking for detail, just the BROAD issue topics that have to be addressed, without addressing them. I like to know what to expect before I get that far.
I wouldn't invest much in tourneys without reading Harrington 1 and 2. For cash NL, check the books forum.

As far as strategy difference between cash and tourny, the increasing blinds force action. Play a hundred tourneys and you'll get a sense.

For example, in a cash game fold QJ to a river push raise on a Q Q 4 2 9 board. In most tourney or sng situations, you probably happily be all in by then anyway.
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