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07-30-2017 , 10:11 AM
Hey,

I am new at twoplustwo and I have a question regarding opening ranges in MTT and how to Change them with different stacksizes. Which opening ranges do you currently use and why and how do you adapt them?

Thank you
Henning
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07-30-2017 , 10:21 AM
This is an incredibly broad question - think of a situation where you're on the exact money bubble of a huge MTT, UTG+1 with 1bb left, UTG is all in for the ante, everyone else has something playable but not huge - your opening range is going to be extremely tight, if you even have an opening range at all. Now change just one variable and give us 1000bb, and our range could easily now be ATC. Ask something more specific.
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07-30-2017 , 11:33 AM
I know, there are many different situations in MTTs but if you tell me how wide you open in average from each position it would be very nice. I playd cashgames before and have no idea how wide you have to open from each position.
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07-30-2017 , 11:43 AM
In earlier levels when you're deepish, you can/should open a little wider than you would in cash, because there's no rake being taken out of every pot that goes to a flop. Later on, when stacks are shorter and ICM effects may be strong, the strategy varies enormously. Sometimes you have to open very tight, because you're vulnerable to 3-bet jams, sometimes you're jamming very wide. It really depends on the situation.
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07-30-2017 , 11:48 AM
I think he's looking more for a table or hand chart...which you can get for free (google search), books, and from a lot of training sites. They will all be somewhat different and some will go in depth like adjusting to the different stages of a tournament, or how many bb's you have, etc.., but be careful because these charts should be used as guidelines and you will find a lot of problems if you assume others would play similar hands as what the chart recommends.
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07-30-2017 , 12:28 PM
@AznblackhawkCo I am exactly looking for something like that but it is quite hard to find usefull (!) Charts for mtts and how to adjust them. So if you know a site where I can find such Charts and help I would appreciate it !
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07-30-2017 , 01:49 PM
Opening range suited connector close gap hands. 20bb onwards open or 3b to steal. Less than 15bb ish prepare to shove any hands stated above

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07-30-2017 , 10:53 PM
Charts are fine, but you have to factor in both position (which charts can factor) and table dynamic (which charts can never factor). If you are at a table where there is always a raise from players in late position relative to you and you have cards that you would fold to a three-bet, you should fold. If you're at a table where the players to your left who are still to act after you have shown themselves to be passive and not likely to raise you without a premium hand, you are more likely to open raise. If your table has shown a tendency to limp in during early levels, you can sometimes limp with marginal hands and hope to get lucky.

Your own table image is also a huge factor. Have you opened a lot of hands? Have you limped a lot? Have you been aggressive post-flop? How the other players perceive you is critical. If you have a very tight image you can open-raise and often get other players to fold just based upon your image unless they are very strong.

The specific point in the tournament and your stack size relative to the blinds also makes a huge difference. If you have 100BB, an open raise to 3x BB is trivial. But if you have 20BB, an open-raise to 3BB is a significant portion of your stack and you don't want to go into the pot unless you are prepared to risk the whole stack.

So, while charts can be useful to help you define what 20% of your range vs. 15% of your range looks like, you need to determine your opening range in a MTT based on a lot more than what your top 15% looks like.

And, of course, this is only if the action folds around to you. How to play the same cards if there is a raise in front of you (and maybe a call) changes the considerations.

So, don't be a slave to a chart.
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08-01-2017 , 02:36 PM
10 bb and up, all play about the same as in cash games, but with relative open and 3-bet sizes, more or less even against a 10 bb allin (opened or 3-bet) where one uses one's solid 3-bet range, or calling a 3-bet-range with (no) implied odds. Some might dream these calls (calling a 3b) up to 20 bb. Under 10 bb, one is still looser.

When one has put around 30% of one's stack in preflop, it is theoretically break even to call the rest of the stack also, but it is just marginal with any two cards. This factor is considered already when one 3-bets, that basically leads to more cold calling with hands that have trouble vs. a 4-bet (allin), that is a heavy factor to consider in tourneys because of smaller stacks.

In theory, if the others are not loose, yu can open raise like a seat looser (or like 25% or so more hands), when the antes are there, if not opening relatively bigger. This factor is regularly busted for a lot of different reasons, putting one to open even tighter than in cash games (money bubbles, some small enough -- 20 bb or less -- aggro stacks behind, if likely so).

Lower (tourney) players are not as likely to 3b (or even open a 5 bb "mega stack" allin for their tourney life) anything but (rock) tight (the rule says something like AK/JJ, but when yu have a reason to think otherwise). Eastern European (bigger money to many of them) average players do not get the same respect of full range from me, but it is not all limited to them, and it is site and limit dependent.

The money bubbles are any money bubbles where one is soon enough getting money or (significantly) more money. This might have little to do with what the others do.

Personally, my first goal is to get to half way of the tournament, being one mode, and the second to get to money, and after that I consider only significant money steps as factors.

My stack size also makes a difference if I wait for aces. But I don't clipple myself by waiting aces. 20 bb is playable but it gets easily crippled, that doesn't mean one should play it looser, but it is to be protected by playing it tighter, but one can't wait too long, it being the other way to cripple it.

All money bubbles are where in theory the medium stacks get up to uber tight if there are small stack(s). The biggest stacks on the bubbles in theory take their turns in picking up the blinds and antes.
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