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02-09-2013 , 07:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by khangura175
Is it jus me or does this seem like a really bad jam vs a cold 4bet..
Im with you. I hate his posts. They make NO sense at all other than as bait for the other ssnl guys.
02-09-2013 , 08:58 AM
nl20 shot on my other BR.

iPoker - $0.20 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $9.60
UTG: $21.23
MP: $49.42
Hero (CO): $20.83
BTN: $20.30
SB: $7.80

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has J 7

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) J J Q
Hero bets $0.75, BTN raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $5.62

is the reraise on flop okay? I thought sizing for the reraise should've been bigger, possibly 6.25ish or should I b/c and c/r turn against unknown. and in b4 fold pre.
02-09-2013 , 09:01 AM
yeh don't 3b flop without dynamic

also don't b/c flop c/r turn
02-09-2013 , 09:39 AM
Running like **** in shots at 25NL. Running into sets/better/really weird bluff lines about 60% of the time villain continues vs a cbet.

I don't think I can fold this vs an unknown?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $31.89
Hero (SB): $31.14
BB: $25.00
UTG: $105.12
MP: $33.06
CO: $32.62

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has 4 4

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.62, Hero calls $0.52, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.86, 3 players) A 4 9
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.60, fold, BTN calls $2.35

Turn: ($9.06, 2 players) 5
Hero bets $5.70, BTN raises to $25.75, Hero raises to $26.92 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.17

River: ($62.90, 2 players) K


And nobody told this villain that multi-accounting is baaaaaad. Normally 8/2 but with low FTCB:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $25.92
Hero (SB): $26.24
BB: $83.66
UTG: $64.90
MP: $39.02
CO: $33.42

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has T A

fold, fold, CO calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, BB calls $0.75, fold

Flop: ($2.25, 2 players) 6 6 J
Hero bets $1.41, BB calls $1.41

Turn: ($5.07, 2 players) J
Hero bets $3.19, BB calls $3.19

River: ($11.45, 2 players) 7
Hero bets $6.01, BB calls $6.01

Spoiler:
Hero shows T A (Two Pair, Jacks and Sixes) (Pre 61%, Flop 2%, Turn 2%)
BB shows 4 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Jacks) (Pre 39%, Flop 98%, Turn 98%)
BB wins $22.41


And I've had about ten hands like this which just bleed money:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $15.00
SB: $25.00
BB: $31.95
UTG: $30.22
Hero (MP): $41.33
CO: $30.72

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has A T

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60, 2 players) T 6 4
BB checks, Hero bets $1.00, BB calls $1.00

Turn: ($3.60, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets $2.27, BB calls $2.27

River: ($8.14, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $4.27, BB raises to $11.50, fold

Spoiler:
BB wins $15.93


And finally, just to demonstrate my *wonderful* luck, I have a read here that villain's preflop range is 22-66:

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BTN): $46.90
SB: $33.71
BB: $33.03
UTG: $30.71
MP: $25.00
CO: $29.32

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J Q

UTG calls $0.25, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.87, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.62

Flop: ($2.09, 2 players) Q 3 K
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.09, 2 players) 9
UTG bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

River: ($4.09, 2 players) 3
UTG bets $3.00, Hero calls $3.00

Spoiler:
UTG shows 3 3 (Four of a Kind, Threes) (Pre 50%, Flop 95%, Turn 91%)
Hero mucks J Q (Two Pair, Queens and Threes) (Pre 50%, Flop 5%, Turn 9%)
UTG wins $9.64
02-09-2013 , 09:44 AM
h1 and h3 wp

h2 id consider checking flop
h4 a cbet would suffice, c/f turn and river
02-09-2013 , 09:58 AM
44 nh, although i wouldn't raise flop its probably fine
AT is button clicking
AT is fine but bet river bigger
QJ fold river
02-09-2013 , 10:02 AM
The first AT hand, I planned to double and triple barrel if necessary because his range there is so often mid PPs. Given the board texture, it was much more likely he had 77-TT than big hands (IMO).

Why am I folding the turn and the river in the QJ hand? My range is clearly capped and his is polarised by its preflop nature on this flop.
02-09-2013 , 10:52 AM
I dont really like trying to bet players off pairs on boards like JJ66 etc. They wont fold enough IMO unless you know hes a reg.
02-09-2013 , 11:30 AM
New meta, crazy profit

    Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15982951

    SB: $2.15 (107.5 bb)
    CO: $1.01 (50.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): $2.03 (101.5 bb)
    BTN: $0.92 (46 bb)
    MP: $3.16 (158 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T 7
    MP calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero checks

    Flop: ($0.05) 3 4 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

    Turn: ($0.09) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

    River: ($0.13) 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02

    Spoiler:
    Results: $0.17 pot
    Final Board: 3 4 Q 4 5
    Hero mucked T 7 and lost (-$0.08 net)
    MP showed A A and won $0.17 ($0.09 net)



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    02-09-2013 , 12:03 PM
    Really don't like calling the river tbh.
    02-09-2013 , 12:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by chad0x001
    Im with you. I hate his posts. They make NO sense at all other than as bait for the other ssnl guys.
    To be fair the last hand in here is fine with dynamics. The Zoom thread is slowly becoming a very annoying thread.
    02-09-2013 , 01:28 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
    The first AT hand, I planned to double and triple barrel if necessary because his range there is so often mid PPs. Given the board texture, it was much more likely he had 77-TT than big hands (IMO).

    Why am I folding the turn and the river in the QJ hand? My range is clearly capped and his is polarised by its preflop nature on this flop.
    no one is folding 77-TT on that board especially vs 1/2psb otr.

    going to go out on a limb and say this guy is never going to exploit you so it doesn't matter what your range is.
    02-09-2013 , 04:20 PM
    Always a pleasure playing at party. Is this standard?


    Hand 1: Blockers etc. Villain 69/6/2 af. Shove is an overkill. I need to work on my nerves to resist temptation for those kind of moves.

      Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15985071

      BB: $3.42 (171 bb)
      BTN: $2 (100 bb)
      CO: $2.33 (116.5 bb)
      Hero (SB): $3.55 (177.5 bb)
      MP: $1.95 (97.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T K
      MP folds, CO raises to $0.08, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.07, BB calls $0.06

      Flop: ($0.24) 8 7 9 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.18, BB calls $0.18, CO calls $0.18

      Turn: ($0.78) 6 (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60, CO folds

      River: ($1.98) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.69 and is all-in, BB calls $2.56 and is all-in




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      Hand 2: Action should speak for itself. Hard to fold here? Same villain as above.

        Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15985101

        UTG: $7.12 (356 bb)
        BTN: $2.22 (111 bb)
        Hero (BB): $2.07 (103.5 bb)
        MP: $1.80 (90 bb)
        CO: $1.73 (86.5 bb)
        SB: $2.05 (102.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
        UTG calls $0.02, MP folds, CO calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, UTG calls $0.12, CO folds

        Flop: ($0.31) 9 T K (2 players)
        Hero bets $0.24, UTG raises to $1.98, Hero calls $1.69 and is all-in



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        Hand 3: 38/24/11 3bet. Had some 3bet wars before. Had 2 hands like these, is this move ok?

          Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15985121

          SB: $2.24 (112 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $3.54 (177 bb)
          CO: $2.13 (106.5 bb)
          BB: $2.09 (104.5 bb)
          MP: $2.96 (148 bb)
          UTG: $1.86 (93 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
          UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB raises to $0.36, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.54 and is all-in, SB calls $1.88



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          Hand 4: Cant play with MUBS. Although in this session they always seemed to have it. Villain 34/24/1af. On flop i have 6 outs, if he bet small i would continue.

            Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15985141

            BTN: $4.38 (219 bb)
            Hero (SB): $2 (100 bb)
            MP: $2.15 (107.5 bb)
            CO: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
            BB: $2.16 (108 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 6
            2 folds, BTN raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.07, BB folds

            Flop: ($0.18) 7 T 9 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $0.09, Hero calls $0.09

            Turn: ($0.36) 8 (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN bets $0.26, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.34

            River: ($1.56) K (2 players)
            Hero checks, BTN checks




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            02-09-2013 , 04:32 PM
            ^Nah, Party is the only site I can beat!

            H1: If you think you have best hand and you know villain will call river, maybe, otherwise bet something he will call.
            H2: Think you have to call some of these against maniacs, sometimes they will have a draw, sometimes 2 pair.
            H3: Seems fine.
            H4: Probably should value bet river. Were you planning on check raising?

            Can anyone see what's coming here?
            OK, he's not exactly a calling station, but you think he'd raise at some point. Typical of how I'm running tbh.

            Full Tilt - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

            CO: $2.05
            BTN: $1.78
            SB: $1.59
            BB: $1.06
            Hero (UTG): $3.89
            MP: $1.81

            SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

            Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K Q

            Hero raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.04

            Flop: ($0.19, 3 players) J A T
            BB checks, Hero bets $0.13, MP calls $0.13, fold

            Turn: ($0.45, 2 players) Q
            Hero bets $0.34, MP calls $0.34

            River: ($1.13, 2 players) T
            Hero bets $0.84, MP raises to $1.28 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.44

            Spoiler:
            MP shows A A (Full House, Aces full of Tens) (Pre 87%, Flop 35%, Turn 24%)
            Hero mucks K Q (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 13%, Flop 65%, Turn 76%)
            MP wins $3.45
            02-09-2013 , 04:35 PM
            H1: Fold pre.
            H2: I fold, even if he has some sort of pair + draw or FD he has a ton of equity vs our one pair. Youll see sets, two pair, and JQ too often though IMO.
            H3: Yeah fine.
            H4: Fold flop, you hit an 8 you wont know if you are good and if you hit a 6 you wont know if you are good. Too hard to play/get value and not own yourself after that so just fold.
            02-09-2013 , 04:38 PM
            iPoker - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

            BB: $3.54
            UTG: $18.25
            Hero (MP): $10.00
            CO: $9.56
            BTN: $5.32
            SB: $9.35

            SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

            Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A K

            fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, BTN calls $0.30, fold, fold

            Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) T Q 7
            Hero bets $0.37, BTN calls $0.37

            Turn: ($1.49, 2 players) T
            Hero bets $0.74, BTN calls $0.74

            River: ($2.97, 2 players) 9
            Hero checks, BTN bets $1.20, fold

            Fish running 50/25 over a small sample of 20 hands. Is line okay or c/c turn and c/f river?

            Last edited by dillchips; 02-09-2013 at 05:04 PM.
            02-09-2013 , 05:09 PM
            Slightly tilted now, so gonnat take a break.
            Had 2 flopped straights against fish beaten by rivered full houses in the last 100 hands.
            Obv never calling below, but it just shows what villains can get AI with, but I've been calling in the wrong spots today.

            PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
            Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

            Hero (BTN): $2.00
            SB: $0.74
            BB: $1.84
            UTG: $19.93
            MP: $1.17
            CO: $2.61

            SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

            Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K A

            fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, BB calls $0.06, CO calls $0.06

            Flop: ($0.25, 3 players) 5 J 6
            BB bets $0.14, CO raises to $2.53 and is all-in, fold, BB calls $1.62 and is all-in

            Turn: ($3.77, 2 players) K

            River: ($3.77, 2 players) 4

            Spoiler:
            BB shows J Q (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 69%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
            CO shows 5 Q (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 31%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
            BB wins $3.64
            02-09-2013 , 05:16 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Studebaker Hawk
            what villains can get AI with
            Fishes gonna fish

              Party, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15985371

              BTN: $1.48 (74 bb)
              SB: $4.68 (234 bb)
              Hero (MP): $2.30 (115 bb)
              CO: $2.14 (107 bb)
              UTG: $2 (100 bb)
              BB: $2.40 (120 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with A A
              UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.08, CO folds, BTN calls $0.08, SB folds, BB raises to $2.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.22, BTN folds

              Flop: ($4.69) 6 2 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              Turn: ($4.69) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              River: ($4.69) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Results: $4.69 pot ($0.23 rake)
              Final Board: 6 2 7 Q K
              Hero showed A A and won $4.46 ($2.16 net)
              BB showed 5 J and won $0.00 (-$2.30 net)



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              02-09-2013 , 05:17 PM
              @Dill I think its fine, opens us up on the river to get bluffed by missed draws but cant see what else you can do.
              02-09-2013 , 05:22 PM
              fishtanks: dream hand lol.
              Aggro fishy picks the wrong spot to squeeze AI.
              Just opened MP with ATs, folds to button who shoves.
              wtf?
              They either have bugger all, or JJ+, although I have seen 55-TT do it too.

              PS. It's when turn and river are 5s that we smash our screen
              02-09-2013 , 05:22 PM
              @Fish: repping the Jackson 5 imo.
              02-09-2013 , 05:23 PM


              not a bad way to start the month,
              5nl + weekend = €€
              02-09-2013 , 06:03 PM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by AndyM2033
              @Dill I think its fine, opens us up on the river to get bluffed by missed draws but cant see what else you can do.
              thanks andy. by the way it's an honour to be in your 1000th post
              02-09-2013 , 06:18 PM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by dillchips
              thanks andy. by the way it's an honour to be in your 1000th post
              Haha, didn't even notice it, Congratulations!
              02-10-2013 , 10:38 AM
              Back to a $600 BR. Just $2 below my peak ever ($619). Not bad for never having deposited (except to transfer money across sites). Got a 5BI cushion for my 25NL shot now, so hopefully I can stay here (or higher!) permanently.

                    
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