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11-24-2008 , 01:14 PM
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Based on the different contexts I saw "TPW" in, I think you are probably wrong. The context made it sound like it was "FTW" (for the win) or something.

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I feel like it's the first one
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11-24-2008 , 01:20 PM
I thought there was somewhere on 2+2 where you could discuss p2p transfers, but I can't find it. Help?
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11-24-2008 , 02:22 PM
What are the must haves for someone who wants to be a serious sng winner?
Books, videos, software, etc? Also, what is banned on what sites?
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11-24-2008 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeBucks
I thought there was somewhere on 2+2 where you could discuss p2p transfers, but I can't find it. Help?
Nevermind, found it.
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11-24-2008 , 07:34 PM
Here is a dumb one:

NLHE: Player A has $20, Player B $40, Player C $10, Player D $5

Action PF is on A, he goes all in for $20. B calls the $20... what happens to the pot if C & D go all-in? How is it split in the end depending on who wins?
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11-24-2008 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Holly Hanna!
Here is a dumb one:

NLHE: Player A has $20, Player B $40, Player C $10, Player D $5

Action PF is on A, he goes all in for $20. B calls the $20... what happens to the pot if C & D go all-in? How is it split in the end depending on who wins?
The way I do it is this: Take the smallest amount, in this case it is player D's $5. Then match that with $5 from each of the other players, A, B and C. That makes a main pot of $20.

Then look at the remaining players with money bet but not yet in a pot, take the smallest amount again - so this is player C's remaining $5. Match that with $5 each from A and B giving the first side pot of $15 between A, B and C. Left over is the $10 from each of player A and B which makes up the second side pot of $20 between those two players.

Then deal the board. Resolve the main pot first - whoever of A, B, C and D has the best hand wins the main pot of $20. Then that is D done, he can't win any more. The first side pot gets resolved between A, B and C - whoever has the best hand out of those three wins the first side pot of $15. Finally compare A and B's hand and the winner out of those two gets the second side pot of $20.

I hope I got that right and it made sense!
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11-25-2008 , 06:09 AM
Why is it with PS that once you are at showdown with villain and you win, sometimes his cards are shown and sometimes they are mucked right away ? The former can be quite scary for half a second :-) ...
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11-25-2008 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DHV Champ
Why is it with PS that once you are at showdown with villain and you win, sometimes his cards are shown and sometimes they are mucked right away ? The former can be quite scary for half a second :-) ...
It's up to the villain weather to show or not, even though you can look at the replay afterwards.
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11-25-2008 , 07:51 AM
If i'm in an full tilt poker 18man sng with 5 left (top 4 paid), and i'm in the CO with KQo, if i have 4BB (3200) is it profitable to shove even though the button has 700 in chips. i am saying this because if we lose the hand we run the risk of not placing at all.

so is it the right move to shove, or just fold?
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11-25-2008 , 09:58 AM
Shove it. You can shove this for as much as 8bbs.

Edit: Correction. From the CO, you can unexploitably shove KQo for 10bbs, and KQs for 14bbs.

From the HJ, you shove for 7 for o and 11 for s.

You can shove for more bbs than these if they are too tight/too loose. Too loose you might not want to shove it if you're trying to make the money, of course.
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11-25-2008 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DHV Champ
Why is it with PS that once you are at showdown with villain and you win, sometimes his cards are shown and sometimes they are mucked right away ? The former can be quite scary for half a second :-) ...
The player closest to the button always shows first. Action proceeds around the table, and only hands that can beat the other shown hands must show. If you're already beat, you can "muck"

Shhh, don't tell the fish, but you can always see shown-down hands by looking in the hand history by clicking "previous hand" in the upper left corner. Or, most hud's will retrieve the information for you, and display all shown down hands for a few seconds.
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11-25-2008 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brycead
If i'm in an full tilt poker 18man sng with 5 left (top 4 paid), and i'm in the CO with KQo, if i have 4BB (3200) is it profitable to shove even though the button has 700 in chips. i am saying this because if we lose the hand we run the risk of not placing at all.

so is it the right move to shove, or just fold?
This is not quite as obvious as ROseeker makes it sound. We need to know the other stack sizes, payout structure, and exact blinds. Sounds like a pretty easy shove, though. You need chips!

ROseeker, where do you get "unexploitable" moves from the cutoff seat? I thought only heads up was solved.
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11-25-2008 , 07:42 PM
Well the BB should have shoved on the CO so punish him for missing his opportunity and steal his blind. He is probably looking for an Ace to get it all in with, so KQ is probably strong enough. You need chips bad because you are going to have to shove next time around anyway. This is the opportunity you are looking for you have 4BB, first in vigorish and a weak BB in front.
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11-26-2008 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Todpullen
The way I do it is this: Take the smallest amount, in this case it is player D's $5. Then match that with $5 from each of the other players, A, B and C. That makes a main pot of $20.

Then look at the remaining players with money bet but not yet in a pot, take the smallest amount again - so this is player C's remaining $5. Match that with $5 each from A and B giving the first side pot of $15 between A, B and C. Left over is the $10 from each of player A and B which makes up the second side pot of $20 between those two players.

Then deal the board. Resolve the main pot first - whoever of A, B, C and D has the best hand wins the main pot of $20. Then that is D done, he can't win any more. The first side pot gets resolved between A, B and C - whoever has the best hand out of those three wins the first side pot of $15. Finally compare A and B's hand and the winner out of those two gets the second side pot of $20.

I hope I got that right and it made sense!
That does make sense, cheers mate!
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11-26-2008 , 03:16 PM
I am trying to improve my sng game, and would like to know what is recommened. I have read Collin's book, and am considering getting some videos, software etc. I am not that computer savy, so I would like something that is not overly complicated. I would like to know what the best books, videos, software, etc. are recommended to improve your sng game, and what sites allow the use of software. I know Stars bans Sharkscope, so I am assuming they ban all software? How about Full Tilt or Cake? Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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11-27-2008 , 01:01 AM
If you have read Moshman, the next step is to use the STT forum on 2p2 and to learn to use SNG Wizard. Together, those are all the tools you need.

I wouldn't recommend a training site unless you can get a free sub to Stoxpoker. Then watch sippin_criss's videos because they're absolute gold.

Kill everyone is quite useful if you are struggling to grasp the concepts.

You should be tracking your games with Pokertracker or Holdem Manager, and using a headsup display that shows stats on other players (the latest versions of both those programs have a HUD built in).

I wouldn't have said there was much to choose between Tilt and Stars, and wouldn't bother too much with other sites while you're learning.
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11-27-2008 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by drzen
If you have read Moshman, the next step is to use the STT forum on 2p2 and to learn to use SNG Wizard. Together, those are all the tools you need.
Noob + Book = Profit

Also, if you get JT shortstacked on the bubble, call the all in everytime.
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11-28-2008 , 12:51 AM
Used to post here quite a bit back a few years ago, then got out of poker when Party closed its doors to Americans and just decided to get back into it tonight. Started looking over the posts and saw the term "c-betting" all over the place. I've never seen this before (or at least I don't remember it).

So, what in the hell does the "c" in c-betting stand for? What is it?? Thanks in advance.


EDIT: Nevermind, found it...

Last edited by The13atman; 11-28-2008 at 01:07 AM.
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11-28-2008 , 01:48 AM
Cbet is continuation betting. If you raise preflop following up with a bet after the flop is a cbet. you should be cbetting a lot some will say nearly 100% of the time. I probably cbet somewhere aroung 85%.
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11-30-2008 , 03:27 PM
Cry me a river, how do you get these stats here. Is it part of tracking software? if so which. Also I'm on Mac any suggestions about software. Currently I just play (without HUD's nor trackers, but check people out on OPR).

edit: sorry if i didn't post it to the correct post
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11-30-2008 , 09:09 PM
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Cry me a river, how do you get these stats here. Is it part of tracking software?
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if so which. Also I'm on Mac any suggestions about software. Currently I just play (without HUD's nor trackers, but check people out on OPR).
Sorry, I'm not familiar with Mac software. You might try the Software Forum or maybe some Mac users will chime in..
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12-01-2008 , 03:52 PM
How many hands do you have to play at each level to say that you can beat that level?
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12-01-2008 , 06:17 PM
Thanks Cry me a river. I found a Mac program

Poker Copilot (Mac Tracker)

About the stats, and where you get them from, I'm speaking of #44 post of this thread...(i.e. I have [JsTs]...what is my % Vs. 5 [random] hands?) Is there a program to do hypothetical situations? such as...I call a PF raise with [JsTs] heads up and the flop is As Th 5s...I put him on [AK's, AQ's, AJ's, KQ's, 99, 88...] and it tells you your expected %?

Another question. Can you explain datamining?
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12-01-2008 , 06:41 PM
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About the stats, and where you get them from, I'm speaking of #44 post of this thread...(i.e. I have [JsTs]...what is my % Vs. 5 [random] hands?) Is there a program to do hypothetical situations? such as...I call a PF raise with [JsTs] heads up and the flop is As Th 5s...I put him on [AK's, AQ's, AJ's, KQ's, 99, 88...] and it tells you your expected %?
PokerStove.

No idea if there's a Mac equivalent. For simpler problems (where you know the exact hands not just ranges) you can use:

www.twodimes.net

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Another question. Can you explain datamining?
Having software record hands played when you're not there. Like pro athletes watching video on opposing teams/players playing against others.

Stars prohibits data mining. FTP has kind of a "don't ask, don't tell" policy. Other sites may vary.
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