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04-25-2012 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondarrion
I do. 120:20.
Ok, so now we know why you're having trouble here - It's 100:20.

This link seems as good as any:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_odds



Last edited by Cry Me A River; 04-25-2012 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Added link
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04-25-2012 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Ok, so now we know why you're having trouble here - It's 100:20.

This link seems as good as any:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_odds

Oh, wow. Sorry about that. Totally misread/misremembered something along the way.
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04-25-2012 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondarrion
Oh, wow. Sorry about that. Totally misread/misremembered something along the way.
No need to apologize - Just pointing out that you seem to be fuzzy on the whole concept of EV, not just tournaments.
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04-25-2012 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
No need to apologize - Just pointing out that you seem to be fuzzy on the whole concept of EV, not just tournaments.
Yeah, the sooner I cleared that up, the better.
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04-26-2012 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TaylorSeriesExpans
For stars, if you make silver star, does it reset to bronze in the next month?
If you make silver you will have it for the following month. if you don't earn 750 VPP that month then you will loose it. So if you earn in april, you'l have it in may. if you don't get those 750 in may, you will loose it in June.
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04-26-2012 , 01:44 AM
when somebody says this: "Villain is 26/22 with 3bet 8.3 and aggr 6.0". what does the 26/22 mean? I don't use HUDs.
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04-26-2012 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by habsfan
when somebody says this: "Villain is 26/22 with 3bet 8.3 and aggr 6.0". what does the 26/22 mean? I don't use HUDs.
From the Beginner's FAQ:

"(the first number) is VPIP(voluntarily put money in pot as a percentage), (the second number) is PFR - percent of times the players raised preflop".

"Voluntarily put money in pot" - means how often a player puts money in a pot, besides posting the blinds. This measures how loose or tight a player is pre-flop.
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04-26-2012 , 07:59 AM
I have been reading COTW after COTW. Great stuff !!!
Some of them link to videos that no longer are hosted.(I think mega upload died)
Did these videos die with that site?
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04-26-2012 , 09:05 AM
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For stars, if you make silver star, does it reset to bronze in the next month?
No, the month after. Say you have achieved silver star in april, you will have silver star status through may.
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04-26-2012 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cry Me A River
Ok, so now we know why you're having trouble here - It's 100:20.

This link seems as good as any:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_odds

Hello again.

After doing some math and watching Splitsuit's video on equity exploration, it turns out my problem was in the transition between % pot odds and "x:y style" pot odds.

Taking your example into consideration again, with a pot of 100$ which I had to call 20$ to have a chance to win, I would calculate pot odds by dividing 20/120 = 1/6 ~ 17%. If you do this way, which I was taught to be the "% method", or something along those lines, it is correct to divide by 120.

Looking at the x:y form, the 100:20 odds, that you correctly told me were the right numbers, translate into the same rough 17% figure that I reached with the method I've been using.

So in fact I've been doing pot odds calculations correctly after all, just in a different way - and I answered your question wrong because I'm not too used to x:y odds, and how the conversion between systems works.

It was a nice exercise, figuring this out, and the realization that after all I had not been doing pot odds calculations wrongly all this time was a nice one too.

Edit

So in terms of pot odds, disregarding implied odds and all other factors, I believe we can say something along the lines of:

"The minimum probability of winning (Min. Equity) that we would need in order to make a +EV call, would be:

% way: Min. Equity = Size of our call / (Size of the pot when action reaches us* + Size of our call).

x:y way: Min Equity = Size of our call : Size of the pot when action reaches us*."

*Even when this includes money that we ourselves previously put in.

P.S. This may seem like a weird question/post coming from the absolute beginner that I am, but fact is, with my education path and poker experience...let's say I just feel more comfortable dabbling in math than in poker theory at the moment, lol. Hoping to change that sometime in the future

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05-13-2012 , 10:27 AM
Another stupid question from me.

I have like $30 right now in my account. What types of games should I play? I know this is a very stupid question but I kinda feel lost.
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05-13-2012 , 11:25 AM
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I have like $30 right now in my account. What types of games should I play? I know this is a very stupid question but I kinda feel lost.
The lowest stakes available of whatever game you like to play.
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05-13-2012 , 12:47 PM
1 more question sorry!

Does different limits have different gameplays? For example Low and Mirco.
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05-13-2012 , 02:00 PM
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1 more question sorry!

Does different limits have different gameplays? For example Low and Mirco.
Definitely. Mainly because as a rule, the higher the stakes, the better the players are.
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05-14-2012 , 03:31 AM
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1 more question sorry!

Does different limits have different gameplays? For example Low and Mirco.
you will basically find that people will be significantly more agg as you move up limits and have a better understanding of the game. also at micro you see people do ******ed **** all the time like betting 2c in a 70c pot with bottom pair on the river.
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05-14-2012 , 03:33 AM
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Another stupid question from me.

I have like $30 right now in my account. What types of games should I play? I know this is a very stupid question but I kinda feel lost.
I would recommend micro cash and get some SnG's in there once you get up to ~$50
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05-14-2012 , 11:02 AM
Is there a way of seeing if somebody has quoted me on a thread i have posted? Like some notification kinda thing? also where can i also see the list to thread i have started?...or do i have to subscribe to my own thread? ty
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05-14-2012 , 11:14 AM
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I would recommend micro cash and get some SnG's in there once you get up to ~$50
Thanks! I can't play SnG. It is hard to get top 3.
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05-14-2012 , 11:55 AM
Tarkyo, I posted a new thread with your hand history HERE. Help with specific hands should not be posted in Dumb Questions.
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05-14-2012 , 11:58 AM
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Is there a way of seeing if somebody has quoted me on a thread i have posted? Like some notification kinda thing? also where can i also see the list to thread i have started?...or do i have to subscribe to my own thread? ty
Click on your screen name above Charlie Brown....you can search threads you have started as well as threads you have made posts. You can have a variety of Thread Notification choices if you click the Quote button on a post you have created and scroll down to Notification Type.
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05-14-2012 , 12:07 PM
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Tarkyo, I posted a new thread with your hand history HERE. Help with specific hands should not be posted in Dumb Questions.
So sorry! Thanks!
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05-14-2012 , 09:09 PM
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Click on your screen name above Charlie Brown....you can search threads you have started as well as threads you have made posts. You can have a variety of Thread Notification choices if you click the Quote button on a post you have created and scroll down to Notification Type.
perfect thanks!
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05-15-2012 , 12:37 AM
Hello everyone! This is my first post here I've been reading a bit about poker and am starting to learn the math of poker. What I struggle, I think most beginners do too, is how do I apply them in a game. I mean I now play 1.5$nl sng and I can't seem to compute the numbers when I'm on the table. Any tips?
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05-15-2012 , 01:00 AM
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Hello everyone! This is my first post here I've been reading a bit about poker and am starting to learn the math of poker. What I struggle, I think most beginners do too, is how do I apply them in a game. I mean I now play 1.5$nl sng and I can't seem to compute the numbers when I'm on the table. Any tips?
pretty simple strategy to beat micro sngs, AQ+ QQ+ for the first few blinds levels(dont overplay aq and ak) once the blinds start increasing so does your range, stealing blinds is essential in the late stages of the sng so be alot more aggressive. download sng wizard, it will get your head around the maths part of it. gl
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05-15-2012 , 01:09 AM
I've been reading a few articles about sng's on pokerschool and other sites. I can't seem to get past breakeven. Just started playing last week. Here are my stats http://pokerprolabs.com/olala910/PokerStars

Maybe I should tryout the sngwizard trail.
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