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07-13-2010 , 10:12 PM
Im looking for books to start reading
I would also like to learn the probability and how to calculate it
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07-13-2010 , 11:28 PM
The harrington on Holdem books are pretty good for starters.

You can search the forums to find out more about pot odds, equity, and expected value also known as EV.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78...ncement37.html

search around the FAQ section of this thread and others to find great links like that
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07-13-2010 , 11:29 PM
I have 51 posts why can't I PM yet? I know I know... I read the very vague FAQ
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07-14-2010 , 03:10 AM
When someone says a certain player is "A 20/12 is 7/5 UTG and 40/25 on the button" what exactly do those numbers mean???
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07-14-2010 , 03:41 AM
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When someone says a certain player is "A 20/12 is 7/5 UTG and 40/25 on the button" what exactly do those numbers mean???
20/12 is VPIP/PFR.

These numbers are used by PokerTracker, Holdem Manager and other tracking software.

VPIP is "Voluntarily put into pot". It means the percentage of pots where the player puts money into the pot (preflop) that is not the small or big blind. So every pot where he limps, calls or raises preflop.

PFR stands for "Preflop raise". It means the percentage of pots where this player raised or reraised preflop.

Big numbers indicate a loose player, small numbers a tight player. A 35/25 players is very loose, a 12/10 player is very tight.

A big "gap" between the two numbers indicate a passive player (likes to call more than raise). A small "gap" indicates an aggressive player (likes to raise or reraise his hands). A 40/10 player is passive preflop, he likes to see a cheap flop. A 20/18 player is aggressive preflop, he likes to build a big pot preflop.

Also these numbers will vary by position. So a player with overall stats of 20/12 may play 7/5 UTG, but 40/25 on the button.
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07-14-2010 , 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by LOLdonkaments.
Need help with calculating the EV of 3betting light.

Say for 10NL, button makes it 30c preflop, SB folds and Hero in the BB 3bets to $1. How often (as a percentage) must button fold to the resteal for this play to be +EV, using these values?
The missing element here is how often the 3Bet "stealer" will win when called. Preflop, you're never drawing dead, so all bluffs or steals are technically semi-bluffs.

IF the BB had NO chance to win when called, including NO chance to succeed in a steal on a later street, then the calculation would be straightforward. This would also clearly be the case if the opponent could be counted on to ONLY shove all-in or fold, NEVER calling, and we plan to fold to a shove... here the bluff becomes "pure" because we're never reaching a showdown and don't have to consider the odds of improving to a winner.

Under such circumstances... there's $0.45 in the pot before the BB makes the 3Bet steal. He sticks in $0.90 on his steal attempt. If his opponent folds 2 out of 3 times, then this is break even... 66.7% folds makes +EV.

That's because he's laying 2 to 1 odds that he'll take down the pot (he's staking twice the total pot). Losing once and winning twice breaks even.
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07-14-2010 , 10:54 AM
Do threads just get deleted without warning. I just posted in a thread and I can no longer find it. When I look at my last posts there is no record of it. Am I going mad or would it have been deleted?
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07-14-2010 , 11:02 AM
I would like to know if there is any professional high stakes double or nothing players. If so

1.how much is there ROI.
2. Where did they learn to play
3. Who is the best DON player
4. Are there any good strong winning coach for DoN

Thanks for the replies guys
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07-14-2010 , 11:12 AM
What should I tell people on aim/msn/skype, when they whine about losing 1 buy-in to a ~6 outer?

I usually end up typing 'lol', 'heh', 'standard' or 'ul'.

I am really considering just telling them to shut the **** up and take it like a man, but do you guys have any better suggestions?

I frankly don't give a ****, if they lose 1 buy-in.
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07-14-2010 , 11:27 AM
If i send an email to fulltilt and ask them to limit the stakes that I can play on, up to 25nl and block sngs + tournaments above $11 will they?
they have this feature on stars.
i got tilted and SS'ed 1knl last nite...it worked out but i want to remove any possibility of it happening again.

thanks
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07-14-2010 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Screaming It
What should I tell people on aim/msn/skype, when they whine about losing 1 buy-in to a ~6 outer?

I usually end up typing 'lol', 'heh', 'standard' or 'ul'.

I am really considering just telling them to shut the **** up and take it like a man, but do you guys have any better suggestions?

I frankly don't give a ****, if they lose 1 buy-in.
"That will be a dollar." Lee Jones's eventual response was to charge people a dollar for him to listen to their bad-beat stories.
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07-14-2010 , 08:53 PM
Poker Tracker 3 or Hold Em Manager? I am using the trial for both right now but I honestly don't know enough about either to make an informated decision for $100. I'm leaning towards Poker Tracker 3 because it looks more detailed. Any advice?
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07-15-2010 , 02:50 AM
i been reading some hands posted. some of the replays says " easy shove" and some say "easy fold"... is there any way to know, who knows what he is talking about and who is not?
i understand that poker doesnt allways has fix answers but i would love a way to tell the novice and the expert apart.
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07-15-2010 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joshosun
i been reading some hands posted. some of the replays says " easy shove" and some say "easy fold"... is there any way to know, who knows what he is talking about and who is not?
i understand that poker doesnt allways has fix answers but i would love a way to tell the novice and the expert apart.
Reg date, number of posts. The content of the post itself.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter. There are a zillion possible hands. You're not going to memorize every possible play. What you're doing is learning how to approach recurring situations and learning how to think about poker. To those ends, watching and participating in the discussion is how you learn. The wrong answers are as important as the right ones.

Don't memorize, think.

Most threads that generate any kind of traffic will come to a consensus. Try and understand why that consensus is reached. Those threads that do NOT reach a consensus - try and understand the basis of the disagreement. When evaluating a specific poster's post, don't look for a cheat sheet answer to their credibility. Decide if you agree or disagree and evaluate why.

This is why things like starting hand charts are such limited tools that need to be discarded as soon as possible (and preferably never used at all). They completely eliminate the thinking and learning process which is crucial to get anywhere in this game.
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07-15-2010 , 10:45 AM
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you can on sharkscope, but i don't remember how

as for ptr, no, apart from nuking their servers which i don't think anyone would complain about
Thanks
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07-15-2010 , 01:46 PM
hi there,

im reading harrington on cash games (one) right now and in one hand example he says that with a pocket pair i am 7:1 underdog to make trips.. now im wondering about the math behind this..

with a pocket pair i have 2 outs to get trips.. 52 cards in the deck, 2 i know already, 2 help, 48 don´t.

so that would be 48:2 for the trips, or 24:1 on the first card of the flop. 23:1, 22:1 , 21:1 etc. on the following cards till the river. right?!

so how come he says 7:1 ? O.o
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07-15-2010 , 02:34 PM
because you get three cards on the flop.
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07-15-2010 , 04:32 PM
what do you do on these types of flops.

6max, 100bb stacks.

CO opens to 3bb, folds to you in the BB with 77, standard call.

Flop comes something like K82r, you check, CO bets 1/2-3/4 pot, is this a standard call?
lets say we call, turn is a 6, do we c/c again?

situation 1: CO is running something like 19/15
situation 2: CO is unkown
situation 3: CO is aggro ~38/33
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07-15-2010 , 05:35 PM
Hi guys I am looking to join a skype study group for plo-plo8 small stakes or nlhld 50 or 100fr. Where do I look on here or any advice would be great thanks.
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07-16-2010 , 10:34 AM
I have a bit of trouble figuring out, what ABC poker is exactly. Is it playing accordenly to the board, folding the second best pair and such?
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07-16-2010 , 10:52 AM
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I have a bit of trouble figuring out, what ABC poker is exactly. Is it playing accordenly to the board, folding the second best pair and such?
ABC poker is straightforward poker. Just raising and/or valuebetting strong hands, not getting into marginal bluffs, not making marginal calls.

ABC poker works well against loose-passive players on the lower limits, but is easy to exploit once you notice it.
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07-16-2010 , 10:54 AM
Okay thanks.
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07-16-2010 , 11:27 AM
re: PokerStars $600 deposit bonus


Yes, it's about time they match FullTilt's bonus, but here's the question.


My girlfriend started an account two years ago when I was teaching her poker. I transferred 10 or 20 bucks to her. She never deposited.


Is she eligible for a first time deposit as far as bonuses go?


Yes, I realize I could email support and probably have an answer faster, but I like you guys (<3 CMAR)
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07-16-2010 , 11:55 AM
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re: PokerStars $600 deposit bonus


Yes, it's about time they match FullTilt's bonus, but here's the question.


My girlfriend started an account two years ago when I was teaching her poker. I transferred 10 or 20 bucks to her. She never deposited.


Is she eligible for a first time deposit as far as bonuses go?


Yes, I realize I could email support and probably have an answer faster, but I like you guys (<3 CMAR)
If it's anything like FTP who I emailed the exact same question to, funding your account with a transfer will not affect the deposit bonus.

E-mail them to make sure tho
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07-16-2010 , 12:12 PM
Just joined the site after hearing about it over on the AZ Billiards website which is a forum similar to this. I play on Pokerstars under the same screen name.

I find myself usually playing simple double or nothing $5, $10, or $20 games as well as an occasional small cash game of either .25 .50 or .5 1...and once in a great while 1 2.

I don't play very well and am a beginner, but occasionally cash out an occasional $50-100. I think my biggest problem is I play too many hands and bluff too much. I am assuming this is common with beginners? Am I correct if I play in a standard cash game I should probably only be playing 10-20% of the hands I am dealt tops with leaning closer to 10-15% and not 20-30% which is what I usually do? I kind of prefer the speed tables as I get to see more hands. I don't seem to fair well in tournaments with 1000+ people either I am assuming due to the lack of skill and luck.

Also do people really go with playing only 10s or better in early position and so forth in terms of middle to late position hands played or is that rubbish?
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