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11-25-2009 , 08:16 AM
Hey, how do i check if im bleeding money from the blinds with HEM?

my BB is -22BB/100 WTFFF, SB is -8BB/100 playing fullring NL
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11-25-2009 , 10:21 AM
-22 bb/100 in the BB is not too bad -- after all your starting point for the BB is -100 bb/100. If you're folding the BB about 75% of the time, you have won 50 bb/100 back on just 25% of the hands.
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11-25-2009 , 08:03 PM
I originally posted this in the Micro-stakes stats analysis thread but didn't get any replies even after a few days

Hi fellow 2p2'ers,

I've been grinding the 10NL games for a while now and I feel as though I'm not improving too much and will be a marginal winner forever if I don't do something soon. I'm now on summer holidays from University so I've got plenty of time to play I used to 9-table but I've now dropped it back to 4-5 tables to try and snuff out those leaks.

GENERAL STATS - I'm sorry if most of the stats are irrelevant but I just thought I'd post them all.



POSITION STATS - I should boost my PFR on the button and in LP quite a bit more, if not all positions but in full-ring microstakes games, limping behind 3-4 limpers with small pocket pairs and suited connectors seems more profitable than raising isn't it? My W$WSF, W$SD and WTSD are over the recommended 35%/50%/25% in the intro post so that's fine I think? I think my VPIP is too high in the blinds though? What sort of numbers should I be looking for there?



SHOWDOWN GRAPH



EV GRAPH




I had a yuck period around the 32,000 hand mark where I hit that downswing. Nothing went my way and coupled with a bit of tilt, my bankroll took a huge hit. With exams around the corner I thought it'd be a perfect time to have a break and hit up the felt after the exams.

Exams are now over and here I am. So tell me 2+2, what do I do to improve?
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11-28-2009 , 03:37 AM
here are my stats



heres my graph



much appreciated


btw this is all 2nl and 5nl.. bout half from each

Last edited by Jakeeck; 11-28-2009 at 03:49 AM.
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11-28-2009 , 03:46 AM
Fairly tight. If this is 6max I'd be surprised.
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11-28-2009 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SheepMoose
Fairly tight. If this is 6max I'd be surprised.
it is
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11-28-2009 , 03:54 AM
6-max? I can't help at all then, I'm afraid, as I play FR and have never really played 6-max.

Our stats aren't all that different. They are different, but not by as much as I expected. If I had to hazzard a guess, I'd suspect that you're folding too much and playing too nitty for 6-max. I'm sure the 6-max gurus will be able to help better.

If all else fails, move to FR. I reckon you'd do well there :-)
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11-28-2009 , 03:56 AM
Fairly sold TAG it looks like and you're beating your game for a decent clip. Keep it up, and start exploring the possibility of opening up your hands, especially in late position.
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11-28-2009 , 03:56 AM
And wow nice heater the last 5k hands or so!
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11-28-2009 , 03:57 AM
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And wow nice heater the last 5k hands or so!
thanks i switched up my playing style the last 5k hands at 5nl and its doing well for me
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11-28-2009 , 05:38 AM
Use position more, and be less passive. You are definitely not stealing enough.
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11-28-2009 , 05:43 AM
Hi, i have my global statistics, positional statistics and a graph to go along with it for you guys to analyze.

I started with a bankroll of 10$, playing 2NL 6-Max while 12 or 9 tabling and i have now moved to 5NL 6-Max where i have started out 6 tabling. The bankroll management technique i am using is 20-25 max buy-ins before starting a new limit.

The sample size is 21363 hands built over 20 days of play (Actual sample size indicated is 21502 but i am excluding one short session of 25c/50c limit hold'em which is not valid for statistical analysis. The small dip in the graph seen at about 10500 hands is due to this session). The upwards spike towards the end of the graph at about 20900 hands is due to me moving up to 5NL because my bankroll was allowing me to start.

Although i have seen my statistics i am not table to say exactly where my leaks are and would like the opinion of anyone who is able to offer it. Thanks a lot !

Alex

P.S: I have blocked out my alias and the statistics of 25c/50c limit seeing as they are not relevant.

GRAPH



GLOBAL STATISTICS



POSITIONAL STATISTICS
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11-28-2009 , 07:16 AM
cbet less/ fold your cbet to a raise less. raising only 7% of hands means u shud pretty much flop the nuts every time so idk how ur finding folds lol.

does pt3 let u post stats by position?
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11-28-2009 , 07:20 AM
i'm guessing you shortstack?
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11-28-2009 , 03:11 PM
please steal more, open your range in CO and BU
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11-28-2009 , 04:42 PM
jumboAL: Frankly, these are stunning stats. You are crushing the levels for 15 bb/100. You have both your red line and your blue line going up (a rare achievement). Your W$WSF is good for NL5, a bit low for NL2 -- but that's quite likely due to no one ever folding at that level.
Two points to improve, and they're strongly related:
(1) Steal way more from button and cut-off
(2) Play more hands from late position period. Your VPIP is below 20 and nearly equal in every position. Stay as tight as you are in EP (maybe even tighter), but you can open up a lot in late position. Open-raie more, iso-raise limpers more, just raise more in LP.
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11-28-2009 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ligareaux
please steal more, open your range in CO and BU
this is something that i know i need to do.. however in 5nl if there are people with a 50%+ vpip i wont try and steal unless i have decent cards.. and also i didnt try to steal much at 2nl just cuz its 2nl and i was usually playing 12+ tables at a time..

ive seen u around at the 5nl tables tho i think
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11-28-2009 , 04:50 PM
mate seriously dont play 12 tables. it will do you no good at all.

learning to fold everything except for when u raise AA then bet pot for 3 streets isnt going to improve u as a player
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11-28-2009 , 04:59 PM
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mate seriously dont play 12 tables. it will do you no good at all.

learning to fold everything except for when u raise AA then bet pot for 3 streets isnt going to improve u as a player
thats not what i do at all.. i played a good range at 2nl.. and at 5nl i only play 6 tables.. 2 nl was just so easy that playing more tables was +EV
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11-28-2009 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeeck
this is something that i know i need to do.. however in 5nl if there are people with a 50%+ vpip i wont try and steal unless i have decent cards.. and also i didnt try to steal much at 2nl just cuz its 2nl and i was usually playing 12+ tables at a time..

ive seen u around at the 5nl tables tho i think

If you're playing against a villain with 50% VPIP then your range of "decent cards" should increase by a ton, especially when you have position. Do You See Why?
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11-28-2009 , 05:11 PM
Being so nitty, you might want to try a full ring game. That way your loses from folding and not going to showdown won't be so dramatic. Also, you can play the 12 tables you want to play because there is more time between the action at each table and you can survey the player reads before you make each decision.
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11-28-2009 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mikes007
If you're playing against a villain with 50% VPIP then your range of "decent cards" should increase by a ton, especially when you have position. Do You See Why?
thats not the way i look at it.. against a nit with a 10% vpip u can steal almost everytime cuz he rarely calls.. against a calling station who plays 50% u wanna raise and make sure ur hand is better so u can extract value after the flop
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11-28-2009 , 05:23 PM
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Being so nitty, you might want to try a full ring game. That way your loses from folding and not going to showdown won't be so dramatic. Also, you can play the 12 tables you want to play because there is more time between the action at each table and you can survey the player reads before you make each decision.
i used to play full ring but this forum along with all the vids i watch are 6 max so this is what i know best and can keep learning more at.
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11-28-2009 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakeeck
this is something that i know i need to do.. however in 5nl if there are people with a 50%+ vpip i wont try and steal unless i have decent cards.. and also i didnt try to steal much at 2nl just cuz its 2nl and i was usually playing 12+ tables at a time..

ive seen u around at the 5nl tables tho i think
i had a 42% att to steal with a 52+ success, i recommend your first play 6 or 8 tables, and play less OOP and more IP

if you want to speak about for skype or something just add me, search "ligarius"
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11-28-2009 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ligareaux
i had a 42% att to steal with a 52+ success, i recommend your first play 6 or 8 tables, and play less OOP and more IP

if you want to speak about for skype or something just add me, search "ligarius"
at 5nl u had a 42% w/ 52 success?
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