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07-25-2009 , 01:18 PM
HI,
Poker tracker3 BB does not mean Big Blinds it is used in PT3 for limit holdem Big bet calculations. I spoke to support at PT3 and they said that right now they do not have a stat for NL big blind.
You need to do a custom stat for NL big blind for any stat that that PT3 uses BB as a discriptor.

All of your BB stats are wrong if you are looking at any BB/? in PT3 in a NL settinig do the math and you will see that your stat is actually 1/2 of what it needs to be.

so a BB/100 of 6 lets say is actually a Big BLind /100 of 12

I went in and created a custom BIBL/### and added that to my stats. basically you need to make a duplicate of the BB stat then you need to name it like BIBL/### and change the formula by doing a * 2 (multiplay by 2) then save it. Your new stat will be highlighted in blue now delete the BB/100 stats in your main screens and add this new custom stat.
Now your BIBL/## stats will be correct.
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07-26-2009 , 10:01 AM
Hi All

I'm moving up to $5 NL, and would like some feedback on my stats to see where I can improve.

Also, is there anything I should be looking out for at $5 in terms of the level or play, or is it fairly similar to $2?

All 6 Max.





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07-26-2009 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Abercrombie1
HI,
Poker tracker3 BB does not mean Big Blinds it is used in PT3 for limit holdem Big bet calculations. I spoke to support at PT3 and they said that right now they do not have a stat for NL big blind.
You need to do a custom stat for NL big blind for any stat that that PT3 uses BB as a discriptor.

All of your BB stats are wrong if you are looking at any BB/? in PT3 in a NL settinig do the math and you will see that your stat is actually 1/2 of what it needs to be.

so a BB/100 of 6 lets say is actually a Big BLind /100 of 12

I went in and created a custom BIBL/### and added that to my stats. basically you need to make a duplicate of the BB stat then you need to name it like BIBL/### and change the formula by doing a * 2 (multiplay by 2) then save it. Your new stat will be highlighted in blue now delete the BB/100 stats in your main screens and add this new custom stat.
Now your BIBL/## stats will be correct.
seems like alot of work - just multiply by 2 - my luck id corrupt all my hand historys
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07-26-2009 , 05:19 PM
Hi,


Would appreciate any insight that you guys can provide....

Here's the overall graph....added some info...



Actually stats do matter...I just don't know how to best use them yet...

So here are the numbers...

Overall




Positional



Limits





I hope I have not left anything out.

Thanks well in advance

P.SS Mistly 6 Max with some heads up thrown in there.
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07-27-2009 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pinkmushroomhead
Hi,


Would appreciate any insight that you guys can provide....

I hope I have not left anything out.

Thanks well in advance

P.SS Mistly 6 Max with some heads up thrown in there.
Stunning winrate with amazingly terrible stats.

VPIP=62/PFR=25?? Just wow. It looks like it's actually mostly HU though, where you can of course play many more hands: the Position table shows that about 8k hands of the 17k were HU.

I think you really have to split your stats into HU (#players=2) and non-HU (#players>2)

In 6-max you're playing in way too many hands, limping in way too often, and are way too passive postflop. Other than that you seem to be doing very well ...
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07-27-2009 , 09:43 AM
Just started out with 10nl 6max on FTP, want to grind atleast 10k hands and then re-assess. If there are any glaring leaks/suggestions, I'd be grateful for any advice/help.




Last edited by smakmagik; 07-27-2009 at 10:08 AM.
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07-27-2009 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by smakmagik
Just started out with 10nl, want to grind atleast 10k hands and then re-assess. If there are any glaring leaks/suggestions, I'd be grateful for any advice/help.
Main thing from this: become more position-aware.
(1) Play WAY fewer hands from the SB.
(2) Play a lot tighter in the early positions (button+2 and +3)
(3) Play looser from the button
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07-27-2009 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
Main thing from this: become more position-aware.
(1) Play WAY fewer hands from the SB.
(2) Play a lot tighter in the early positions (button+2 and +3)
(3) Play looser from the button
Agreed.
Didn't mention that is solely 6max so a bit looser.
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07-27-2009 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by smakmagik
Agreed.
Didn't mention that is solely 6max so a bit looser.
I think he figured it out from the positions. You're definitely still way too loose from first two positions and slightly too loose from the cutoff. You can actually play a few more hands on the button but don't go overboard.

As you play more you will become addicted to playing in position. It's just so much easier.
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07-29-2009 , 06:44 PM
So I use starshotkeys for all my actions, but i use keys like f,t,g,v, etc which makes it impossible to take notes. Anyone know a way to keep using easy to reach keys for betting without disabling note-taking?
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07-30-2009 , 07:10 PM
Is there anything that stands out from these stats that make cause me to be a bad player?

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07-31-2009 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DBallerz
Is there anything that stands out from these stats that make cause me to be a bad player?
It looks like you're playing too weak-tight (also known as FGators syndrome).
You are losing a huge amount in non-showdown pots which usually means you're letting yourself get pushed out of too many pots.
What is your WWSF (Won When Saw Flop) percentage? It should be above 40% at least.
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07-31-2009 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fabadam
It looks like you're playing too weak-tight (also known as FGators syndrome).
You are losing a huge amount in non-showdown pots which usually means you're letting yourself get pushed out of too many pots.
What is your WWSF (Won When Saw Flop) percentage? It should be above 40% at least.
Here you go man, hope this helps.
http://tinypic.com/r/2n1vxb7/3

Anyway to figure out what positions/situations I should be more aggressive on ?
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07-31-2009 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DBallerz
Is there anything that stands out from these stats that make cause me to be a bad player?

You should be a little more conservative from the blinds. You lost too much from these positions.

The non-showdown hands:

+1 to fabadam's post

You could win a nice sum of money, if you played less hands from the blinds.

Good Luck & Have fun!
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07-31-2009 , 05:31 AM
Took a shot at 5nl. I feel like an idiot not knowing what's going on and just losing chips all over the place.... Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I have to go back down to 2nl as I lost a good 14bi at 5nl.





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08-01-2009 , 07:45 AM
These are my last 45k hands or so at 25nl full ring.





My cbet is too low and I need to open up but those can easily be fixed. What I'm worried about is that low 20% WTSD stat. People keep telling me that it should be around 25. Any suggestions on what some things I can be doing wrong here? Sure I'm folding the best hand often but does anyone have examples of some common things I probably need work on or any other things that can help me?
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08-01-2009 , 09:23 AM
Don't listen to those people. I think generally people see the most positive results when they sit on a WTSD of ~20.
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08-03-2009 , 02:03 AM
Hi
I've played about 40k hands at 10NL as my graph shows but I'm posting stats for the most recent 10K or so hands because theyre probably the most relevant for how I'm playing right now. Any advice/suggestions would be appreciated



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08-07-2009 , 05:17 PM
tl;dr HALP!

Been playing for about six weeks now, @ 18.7k hands. I know 20k is considered kind of minimum and 50k is considered much better. To make matters even worse, I feel like I've only really obtained some semblance of understanding for things like position, pot sizing and rudimentary hand reading in the last 5k or so.

Still, I was wondering if some 2+2'ers might be kind enough to look over my stats and tell me what you see.

In summation, I play 20/12/4 with my ranges looking something like:

Early: 22+, AQs+, AK
Middle: 22+, AJ+, KQ
Late: Ax, QJs, JTs

...however in late position, when faced with a loose raiser (and a sanely-sized raise [3-4bb]), I often reraise 9-12bb to isolate and then reraise when they hit the flop with almost any two cards. Seems to work around 3/5ths (est) of the time (win the pot uncontested the 66% they miss the flop, then some of the remaining 33% when I make a big hand).

Perhaps I'm just fooling myself but it seems like my sessions either run very solid where I'm keeping the pot where it should be, where I'm getting value for my hands, mostly taking down small/middle-sized pots with a few big pots every now and then, very stable or I'm in sessions where nothing goes right; my QQ+'s get folded around, my draws do not ever make it, etc.

The problem is, I'm not sure if it's variance or my lack of skill that's to blame. It's been very frustrating for me to feel like I've got a more solid understanding of the game, I've become far less donkish and yet my game -- at least according to the indicators -- is actually getting worse.

I'm not trying to be cute, not trying to be tricky.

I virtually never out-and-out bluff.

I don't really even tilt. The worst that ever happens is that I completely tighten up and stick to the absolute basics, play fit-or-fold until my steam passes.

I don't ever obsess about defending my blinds, I treat the blinds like the early position that they are, and don't really go out of my way to steal blinds (although my stats might tend to show that I do because of the reraise-loose-raiser technique that I mentioned earlier).

As for studying, it's consisted of:

* Reading (Gordon's Green Book, Sklansky's Theory of Poker, Harrington's ...on Hold'em Vol I and II),
* Reading 2+2 daily,
* Four-tabling 2-10NL for 1.5-3.0 hours/day,
* Marking particularly sticky hands with PT3 and reviewing and posting on 2+2 if I'm still unsure,
* Watching StoxPoker vids, mostly Ed Miller's Poker Made Simple series.

Here's some screens. Pls note that I bounced around between 2, 5 and 10NL. I'll bet you can tell where, too.

General



Details



Position



BB Won for Hands Played



Money Won for Hands Played



Money Won w/Showdown & No Showdown for Hands Played



EV All-In Performance



Hands > Starting Hands [Best]



Hands > Starting Hands [Worst]



Hands > Final Hands



Session Details



Thanks very much in advance for any help.

Sincerely,
bodhi

Last edited by bodhisoma; 08-07-2009 at 05:21 PM. Reason: added a line about tilt.
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08-07-2009 , 05:24 PM
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I'm not trying to be cute, not trying to be tricky.

I virtually never out-and-out bluff.

I don't really even tilt. The worst that ever happens is that I completely tighten up and stick to the absolute basics, play fit-or-fold until my steam passes.
TBH, I think I've played you at 10nl, and this was the reason I beat you. You we're a super-predictable TAGfish. You might want to work on opening weird hands and stuff in order to mess up your opponents
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08-07-2009 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
You might want to work on opening weird hands and stuff in order to mess up your opponents
Don't do this. Continue to study, review, and play solid. Get some poker friends and sweat each other. Build your roll, and when you can afford it get a coach.
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08-07-2009 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerdemic
Don't do this. Continue to study, review, and play solid. Get some poker friends and sweat each other. Build your roll, and when you can afford it get a coach.
lolwat. why can't he start opening things from spots he normally wouldn't?
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08-07-2009 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JHair
lolwat. why can't he start opening things from spots he normally wouldn't?
I don't want to be a jerk here since you're sincerely trying to help and taking the time to do so, but I need to figure out how to walk before I can run. Playing weaker hands OOP sounds like a quick way to put my winrate even further into the toilet.

I apparently can't handle the game now, why on earth would I expect that dicier spots would help?

Again, no offense.

bodhi
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08-07-2009 , 10:04 PM
A polite note to the forum mods; I spent an hour getting this together and now, thanks to it being moved, 1/50th the number of people will see it.

I apologize for not posting it here initially, I wasn't trying to ignore the rules, I just thought this was for brags and whatnot, not for actual analysis.

I do, however, think it's a horrible idea.

bodhi
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08-08-2009 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokerdemic
Don't do this. Continue to study, review, and play solid. Get some poker friends and sweat each other. Build your roll, and when you can afford it get a coach.
This.

idk about the getting a coach, but having a group of poker playing friends to talk to and learn from is the single best thing you can do for your game.
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