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01-20-2022 , 06:08 AM


See my stats from 16z on Stars, about 12k of these hands are with an ante

Would appreciate any advice
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01-20-2022 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tamol


See my stats from 16z on Stars, about 12k of these hands are with an ante

Would appreciate any advice
List RFI and CC%, exclude the ante hands. Antes change preflop a decent bit since there is quite a bit more dead money. Don't put both in when evaluating these stats.
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01-20-2022 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
List RFI and CC%, exclude the ante hands. Antes change preflop a decent bit since there is quite a bit more dead money. Don't put both in when evaluating these stats.
Thanks, like this?:



I assume CC% means cold call?
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01-20-2022 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamol
Thanks, like this?:



I assume CC% means cold call?
Yes. Are you using hem3?

Also, you got some serious preflop issues with your ranges. You need to look up some preflop ranges. Your RFI from EP/MP/CO barely changes and then you only RFI BTN 24.5%
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01-21-2022 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Yes. Are you using hem3?

Also, you got some serious preflop issues with your ranges. You need to look up some preflop ranges. Your RFI from EP/MP/CO barely changes and then you only RFI BTN 24.5%
Yes hem3.

Ok thanks, what should the % be closer to?

I use Jonathan Little's gto charts but try to play a bit tighter as he said you should at low stakes since the rake is high.

Will start using the GTO Wizard 50nl ones and stick to them.
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01-21-2022 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Tamol
Yes hem3.

Ok thanks, what should the % be closer to?

I use Jonathan Little's gto charts but try to play a bit tighter as he said you should at low stakes since the rake is high.

Will start using the GTO Wizard 50nl ones and stick to them.
That'd be a great start. Good luck.
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01-21-2022 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
That'd be a great start. Good luck.
Thanks for the help. Appreciated.
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02-11-2022 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
That'd be a great start. Good luck.


thanks for your help on this, I really appreciate it. I've been following the charts more closely, it's crazy the amount of BB's I now steal compared to before.

What should the percentages be close to? Obviously still room for improvement.
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02-11-2022 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tamol


thanks for your help on this, I really appreciate it. I've been following the charts more closely, it's crazy the amount of BB's I now steal compared to before.

What should the percentages be close to? Obviously still room for improvement.
IDK what percentages you're referring to, but I'm glad you are doing better. WTSD at 33% sticks out, though. WTSD more normal to be 29-32 depending somewhat on how wide you are pre and how aggressive your games are. It's likely you're calling too much postflop. You could post your fold to cbet flop/turn/river stats along with river call efficiency.
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02-11-2022 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
IDK what percentages you're referring to, but I'm glad you are doing better. WTSD at 33% sticks out, though. WTSD more normal to be 29-32 depending somewhat on how wide you are pre and how aggressive your games are. It's likely you're calling too much postflop. You could post your fold to cbet flop/turn/river stats along with river call efficiency.


See attached, I don't get it; it say's that I have a zero percent fold on turn in single raised pots, surely that can't be true?

Am I misunderstanding something, or have I really not folded once on the turn in a SRP in the CO in over 14k hands.

Thanks.
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02-12-2022 , 12:54 AM
There won't be a sample size for that spot unless you're flatting preflop in the CO. Likely sample size issue. Hard to analyze 14k hand sample... 18.2 fold on river is low though at the moment.
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02-12-2022 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
There won't be a sample size for that spot unless you're flatting preflop in the CO. Likely sample size issue. Hard to analyze 14k hand sample... 18.2 fold on river is low though at the moment.
Ah I get it, yeah I've previously thought I'm a bit of a station on the river, will analyse some of my hands. Thanks
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03-06-2022 , 06:31 PM
First 20k hands on 5€ NL 6-handed, so I guess it's a good time to see if I'm on the right track. English isn't my first language, so please forgive my mistakes.
I used to play back in 2008 - 2012, always micro cash games. I was a slight winner but at some point I got bored and quit. Now I'm at it again and I would like to be a profitable player in the 50€ NL region at some point in the future.

Graph first:

Spoiler:


As you can see, in the first 10k hands I was running super-good (23 bb/100 at some point). The great divergence between real line and EV line didn't come from a series obscene suck-outs by my side. I won 2 big pots as a massive underdog, but all the other all-ins have been with me starting at 79% and above. They simply held all the times. I was well aware this isn't sustainable.

Then from hand 10k to 16k, everything that could possibly go wrong went wrong. Huge bad beats, 3-4 big pots lost with monumental mistakes on my part and generally running like ****.

Then in the last 4k hands it was just standard.


Here are the stats:



Now I'm already aware of some leaks, which I'll try to explain to see if I'm on the right track.
Overall, it looks like I'm too tight in general.

3-bet is too low: this may work at 5NL, but it will be extremely exploitable at higher levels.

Not opening enough from the BTN: it is my loosest position, as it should be, but I'm aware I should be opening way more.

Not stealing enough blinds: there's a lot of dead money to pick up with the right villains. I've been gradually increasing this for a while and I'll keep doing so.

Folding too much to blind steals: this was a massive 82 after 5k hands, 79 at 10k hands and now it's 76, so I'm gradually trying to defend more. The thing is, I'm completely averse to playing marginal hands out of position. I try to loosen up sometimes, but after a while I'm tightening up again. On one hand I find myself thinking it's not worth fighting over all these small pots, but on the other hand I'm perfectly aware a good blind game can improve the winning rate by 1-2 bb/100. So this needs some work.

Too passive on the flop: not c-betting enough, folding too much to c-bets. Again, this may work at 5NL, but it will be easily exploitable at higher levels.
Leaktracker says I'm on the lowest end of the acceptable range for flop c-bet, flop AFq and flop AF.
Fold to flop c-bet is also high-ish, but I'm working on it. It was stupid high after 5k hands (over 70) and 59 at hand 10k. Now it's 53.

Too aggro on the river: river AF is 4.52, river AFq is 53. I think this is a direct consequence of my tight preflop and flop game. When I arrive at the river I'm usually strong and I'm probably barreling too much, losing value.

Low WWSF: I didn't read much about this stat so far, but it's a bit low and it probably means I'm giving up pots too easily on the flop.


These are the things I think need some the most work, but please feel free to point other leaks or correct my reasoning so far.
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04-11-2022 , 06:07 AM



Hello everyone,

I attached graphs to my SNG sessions, normal, turbo, and combined. Somehow in normal I am winning, but in turbo I am not, but my Net Expected Chips Won is similar. How can you explain this? Am I cursed in Turbos?

If I change prizes to BB won they look similar somehow. Is this a bug?
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05-23-2022 , 01:33 PM
Hey guys!

Been playing poker for years, but trying to take it more seriously with this extra free time I have right now. Playing NL5 currently and struggling, but can beat NL2. Really feels like I'm running into cooler after cooler, especially when facing river bets, which is frustrating looking at my RCE. I'm aiming to get it up, but it literally feels like I'm folding everything less than the absolute nuts and still running under 1.0. And then other times I'll decide to call w/ TPTK or something and the villain shows me some triple barrel bluff w/ air. Obviously there's more that plays into this than just absolute hand strength, but it just feels like my graph takes these big hits when I'm calling set over set or whatever too often. Here are my stats and graph for this year, let me know what you think.





Some things that I notice are the <1.0 RCE, low fold to turn cbet, low winrate in BB and low W$WSF.
I'm trying to reassess hands facing turn cbets to find ~10% extra folds and similarly trying to find more folds on the river. Not entirely sure how to fix the W$WSF or the BB (though I suspect the BB thing could definitely tie in to the other leaks).

I'd like to see what you guys think of the graph/stats and see what kind of adjustments are needed.
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05-23-2022 , 06:06 PM
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Hey guys!

Been playing poker for years, but trying to take it more seriously with this extra free time I have right now. Playing NL5 currently and struggling, but can beat NL2. Really feels like I'm running into cooler after cooler, especially when facing river bets, which is frustrating looking at my RCE. I'm aiming to get it up, but it literally feels like I'm folding everything less than the absolute nuts and still running under 1.0. And then other times I'll decide to call w/ TPTK or something and the villain shows me some triple barrel bluff w/ air. Obviously there's more that plays into this than just absolute hand strength, but it just feels like my graph takes these big hits when I'm calling set over set or whatever too often. Here are my stats and graph for this year, let me know what you think.





Some things that I notice are the <1.0 RCE, low fold to turn cbet, low winrate in BB and low W$WSF.
I'm trying to reassess hands facing turn cbets to find ~10% extra folds and similarly trying to find more folds on the river. Not entirely sure how to fix the W$WSF or the BB (though I suspect the BB thing could definitely tie in to the other leaks).

I'd like to see what you guys think of the graph/stats and see what kind of adjustments are needed.
Your RFI is wide from all positions... You should just tighten up significantly. Like, you're opening 60% in SB and then going to showdown from SB 36% of the time.
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06-30-2022 , 05:38 PM
Heres my stats for my 10000hands fullring at $2NL

Winning good with a nice winrate but always want to be better. Is there something in here that looks off? Otherwise whats your opinion on what i need to work on in my next step to develope my game?

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07-01-2022 , 04:39 AM
My positional stats might confuse a bit. I see that they´re not in right order.
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01-24-2023 , 07:04 PM
Hey guys, sorry for the small sample but I'm feeling desperate, losing a lot. All at 2nl zoom, I'm a beginning player but I've studied FTGU and some other training content.



Anything obviously wrong here? No idea how I am managing to lose from the BTN.
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01-26-2023 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by farmhouse
Hey guys, sorry for the small sample but I'm feeling desperate, losing a lot. All at 2nl zoom, I'm a beginning player but I've studied FTGU and some other training content.



Anything obviously wrong here? No idea how I am managing to lose from the BTN.
RFI's are reasonable, could be tighter from mp and btn probably.

5k hands you really shouldn't be concerned with win/loss unless it was extremely negative.
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04-21-2023 , 06:58 PM
I wanna bet NL2 it is getting harder than i had expected


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04-22-2023 , 03:43 PM
By positions
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04-25-2023 , 05:52 PM


I know ive got a few leaks think i call to much when i think iam at top of my range is biggest iam trying to stop doing! also think i went through a patch of calling cbets with not enough equity and just a pair to see if they would show weakness on turn. Think i just went to far on this and didnt pick my spots well enough. Any advice be great though thanks
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05-04-2023 , 07:33 AM
Hi, can anyone give some opinion on my stats? Thanks

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05-06-2023 , 10:12 AM
Most of that looks relatively solid tbh

Your W$SD is a little on the low side (normally I'd expect 55-58 for a solid winning reg IIRC) but it's not a huge sample of showdowns - either way try filtering for call river = true (we expect a graph with that filter to lose a LOT of money but it can reveal some instructive hands to share). It can also arise from value betting too thin but that's not an issue for 99%+ of microstakes players (quite the opposite, in fact).

The other thing which stands out is that your flop and turn cbet stats are very disparate. I suspect you're doing two things:
1) cbetting too often out of position (it being OOP in particular isn't proven by the stats but unless micro players have gotten WAY better over the last couple years people aren't really exploiting you for cbetting too much IP), which means your flop and turn check ranges are very vulnerable
2) possibly giving up with some hands which should be turn barrels (make sure you're thinking about what hands in your range are continuing turns when thinking about giving up - e.g. on a lot of boards it makes sense to barrel something like overcards or a bare gutshot)

Consider posting some hand histories.
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