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03-12-2013 , 08:31 AM
yhe i know i been playing 4 3 years now shud i not be wining more? tho r thay not just lky stnd brinks the amount i play?
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03-13-2013 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by le4_prince
yhe i know i been playing 4 3 years now shud i not be wining more? tho r thay not just lky stnd brinks the amount i play?
Lol, is this a level? nice troll, had me laughing a bit too obvious though man...
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03-14-2013 , 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by fegelein
Any particular reason why you're so nitty in the CO compared to the BTN? You can probably raise a much wider range in the CO than you are now, especially if you have a tight player on your left (and I'm assuming you often do if opening 2x with ATC in the SB is an effective steal). I mean, think about it, the CO is only one spot over. There's no reason you should be playing half as many hands.

You can also probably 3bet wider, 3% is a really nitty 3b range. I'm not necessarily saying start 3betting light but you can 3b more than JJ+ AK for value.

Your winrate in the blinds is really good, not sure if that's variance or what (obv you have a strategy for stealing from the SB and that's probably effective, but I noticed the 10% 3b in the BB, I assume it just means you've been picking up lots of big hands over that sample and not that you're picking great spots to defend given your 3b stat in every other position? if you are having a lot of success defending though that's really good)
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03-14-2013 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DK Barrel
Any particular reason why you're so nitty in the CO compared to the BTN? You can probably raise a much wider range in the CO than you are now, especially if you have a tight player on your left (and I'm assuming you often do if opening 2x with ATC in the SB is an effective steal). I mean, think about it, the CO is only one spot over. There's no reason you should be playing half as many hands.

You can also probably 3bet wider, 3% is a really nitty 3b range. I'm not necessarily saying start 3betting light but you can 3b more than JJ+ AK for value.

Your winrate in the blinds is really good, not sure if that's variance or what (obv you have a strategy for stealing from the SB and that's probably effective, but I noticed the 10% 3b in the BB, I assume it just means you've been picking up lots of big hands over that sample and not that you're picking great spots to defend given your 3b stat in every other position? if you are having a lot of success defending though that's really good)
Thanks for response. Stats from todays session look much better and I think I found another leak - playing too many tables. Gonna play 6 tables max from now on. I tried to bluff in more spots but gave up after some aspie called my river raise with flush on KKxxK.

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03-17-2013 , 04:59 PM
Is this normal?? I have the feeling I just cant win no matter what the odds are...

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03-18-2013 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray_Ping_Yu
Is this normal?? I have the feeling I just cant win no matter what the odds are...
You appear to be winning on that graph, is that the image you intended to post?
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03-18-2013 , 01:32 PM
Im not winning sh**t look at the orange line I was up 2k cash out 1k and then everything started to go bad, like a lot more bad beats than usual...most of the mtts are ftp rush
Is running 1400bb under EV over 30k hands consider standard or very unlucky???
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03-18-2013 , 02:47 PM
Is the orange line tourney results?
And green cash?
Looks like you are winning cash, maybe stick to it.
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03-18-2013 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray_Ping_Yu
Is running 1400bb under EV over 30k hands consider standard or very unlucky???
It's not unusual in cash games, though it's annoying when it happens of course. I have no experiences with MTTs but variance is greater there than cash.
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03-19-2013 , 02:29 PM
How does leak finder on pokertracker4 work? New to it thanks
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03-19-2013 , 03:27 PM
OK I decided to write because I do not know what I'm doing wrong, after 22k Hands, 1.5bb/100 and -13bb/100 NonSD!!

Here is link to my blog

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...-work-1288705/

NL10 SH




NL10 SH SD




Stats overall and position stats.





I will be grateful for any help. Because 1.5bb/100 at nl10.... Makes me have depression!
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03-21-2013 , 07:21 AM
May be wrong and you'll probably get better help, but...

Your 3bet range looks far too linear. NL10 is probably the point where people can start exploiting that. 3betting AQ+, 99+ isn't really enough.

You can probably open more from the CO and BTN too and you probably open too much from the SB.

Looks like your fold to steals is a little high too.

I suggest you do some work on 3bet and 4bet ranges and your play from the blinds.
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03-24-2013 , 02:12 PM
Good stuff for grinders.

[IMG]http://s24.************/648g1gbyt/3bet_pre_flop.png[/IMG]

http://tiltbuster.com/forums/index.p...onfig-for-hm2/
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04-11-2013 , 07:30 PM
Hello all,

I need help. I'm getting crushed at NL10 after an initial heater. Any ideas where to start. I have some tilt issues but my idea of tilt is 4betting AK or QQ. I am pretty weak tight I think as I try to range opponents but then I bet when I think I can get better to fold (basically never apart from the Cbet flop) or worse to call (basically never as I play strong hands so any time I get a piece it usually looks pretty obvious). The only winnings I get are from coolers on other people really. I get the better of these in general I guess as I'm so weak post flop. I am going back to NL5 in the short term. I am too weak a player to survive in NL10 but don't know how to go about changing that. Have read all the COTW a couple of times, Verneers thread on the Micros, Harrington on Cash games and am now on mental game of poker. Nothing seems to help as clearly I don't have the brains to properly understand it.

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04-12-2013 , 12:43 PM
Playing 4nl mostly full ring but mixed with 6-max to see if i could turn a winrate there, with no luck. I see im losing bad in the blinds, should i tighten up in the blinds? any glaring leaks?



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04-18-2013 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thetallpaul
I have some tilt issues but my idea of tilt is 4betting AK or QQ. I am pretty weak tight I think as I try to range opponents but then I bet when I think I can get better to fold (basically never apart from the Cbet flop) or worse to call (basically never as I play strong hands so any time I get a piece it usually looks pretty obvious). The only winnings I get are from coolers on other people really. I get the better of these in general I guess as I'm so weak post flop. I am going back to NL5 in the short term. I am too weak a player to survive in NL10 but don't know how to go about changing that. Have read all the COTW a couple of times, Verneers thread on the Micros, Harrington on Cash games and am now on mental game of poker. Nothing seems to help as clearly I don't have the brains to properly understand it.
Assuming you buy in at 100bb (standard), 4-betting AK and QQ is definitely NOT TILTY or SPEWY. I'm not saying that it's always correct to 4-bet AK and QQ but in the vast majority of preflop situations you'll encounter, 4-betting and calling an all-in preflop with these two hands if you were the open raiser is 100% fine and standard (especially as you get to higher stakes). Thus, I agree with you in your belief that you are weak-tight (if AA and maybe KK are the only hands you feel "good about" shipping preflop, then you are at least somewhat weak-tight).

Going back to 5NL for a while might be a good idea, your know yourself better than anyone else after all so ultimately it's your call. I might even suggest you go back to 2NL and start 3-betting and 4-betting light against nits whenever you think you have decent fold equity. It's only a couple cents, try it out and see how you feel about preflop reraising wars afterwards. If the problem is that losing $10 in one hand feels like a lot of money, trying moving up with more buy-ins, maybe grind up 50BI minimum before you play 10NL again. If it's more about the idea that 4-bet/all-in with anything less than KK is spewy, I suggest you take a closer look at the math (try theory forums) which proves that going to war with AK, QQ against LAGs/light 3-bettors is not spewy.

Last edited by jzc; 04-18-2013 at 08:04 PM.
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04-20-2013 , 03:54 PM
I did briefly go back to NL5 but I decided to have drunk night playing (extra deposit for giggles) and would play more aggressive with this new freedom. It actually worked really well and I am now playing much more aggressive both pre and post. I am still unsure about AK AIPF. I get the idea but the practice of it is that I never seem to get called by AQ or less. So basically its a bluff with the blockers?

Math example to see if I get it. All involved 100BB deep and I'm ignoring rake for a minute as if its a home game.

If I raise to 3bb from BTN, SB folds and BB 3bets to 12BB. His 3bet vs BTN is 7%. Range then TT+,A8s+,KTs+,AQo+ (roughly). I am ahead of that range and IP so could flat (leave that to one side though).

Pot is currently 15.5bb. If I 4bet to 30BB he will 5bet shove QQ+ (1.4%) and fold the rest. 80% of the time I win 15.5BB, 20% of the time I either fold and lose 30bb or call the 70bb remaining and lose 38bb (100 bet -62bb equity (31% of 200bb)). In this situation 4bet folding is better EV than 4bet calling. B/F is +6.4bb and B/C is 4.8bb.

If add AK into his range then fold is 63% and win 15.5bb and fold is -30bb and call is -28bb so call is better. Overall now you don't get enough folds so now is -EV.

So its not a bad bluff vs a nit but if the other player opens up a bit then its a losing play.

If 3bet range is 14% vs the button and then if shoves QQ+ he will fold 90% so will be more EV to 4bet than the above example. vs wider shove (inc AK) 82% fold and 18% shove. Fold is -30bb and call is -28bb. Overall now +7.7bb. If include JJ and AQs in shoving range folds now 77% and calls 23% (42% equity means call now only -16bb). Now 4bet/Call is now +9.3bb.

OK fine. Vs a aggressive player this is standard play. See how it goes at the tables!
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04-25-2013 , 05:04 AM
Hi all

Have recently added poker tracking software and looking for some advice on my stats...mainly playing multi table SnG's.


Position VPIP PFR AF
BTN 34 24 1
CO 14 9 3.67
MP 13 12 2
EP 12 9 1.4
BB 29 19 1.76
SB 43 17 3.6

Is anyone able to tell the weaknesses in my game from these stats and how I am able to correct them?

Thanks
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04-27-2013 , 07:16 PM
Thoughts on my stats? All at 2NL. Any leaks?



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04-30-2013 , 05:37 PM
Looks ok Ben. Should be sticking to value at 2nl which you seem to be doing. Try and keep ur vpip & pfr close together if you can, normally within 4 points is the generally accepted amount.
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05-01-2013 , 04:27 AM
Getting crushed at 10NL


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05-01-2013 , 01:28 PM
Ur stats don't look too bad, maybe just sample size run bad?

U could open up in CO and BTN more, but I think ur issues appear to come postflop. Maybe ur overplaying 1P type hands?

On the river you should be thinking raise or fold. U have the most info about villain's hand by this point so if u think ur beat u probably are. Just make sure ur getting those value bets in when u think ur ahead

Can't really say much more from the info you've posted. Maybe play another 10k hands or so and see if you start to run better?
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05-01-2013 , 02:37 PM
thanks for the analysis. gonna open my co/btn range and start raising otr with less than sets from now on
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05-01-2013 , 02:55 PM
Maybe spend some time working on ranges and hand reading a bit more. I always found live play vids helpful with that but whatever works for you. If your thought processes are right then the results should follow eventually.

Word of caution, if ur gonna open up ur LP range great, but make sure ur picking the right players to do it against
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