It doesn't matter if you're 200bb deep if everyone who is bad is only 45bb deep. Also if all the good player who have an edge on you end up 200bb deep along with you when all the bad players are only 45bb deep you'd rather be 45bb deep yourself.

If you have 6k to your name fancy staking me? That's a very serious question btw and if you are interested please do pm me and I'll write up a much more detailed plan than what I posted here.

Staking forum bro

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...eeking-stakes/

Obv go to the staking forum. Just be honest about everything and you may get a stake.

Why do you want to switch from cash to SNGs?

And I see no reason why that $80 1/2 game shouldn't be beatable. Off course it may be a rake trap but it may also be very beatable.

The 1/2 games I used to play in Florida when the BI was limited to $100 max was still very beatable.

Well, I concede that $80 might be. The LA games have a $40 (Commerce) and $60 (Bike) max, and I have yet to see anyone on 2p2 say that those games are beatable over a good sample. The games SB gets raked before cards are even dealt

Obv if the games are raked like that then they are pretty hard to beat. Generally speaking I think people underestimate how terrible liveplayers can be and what rake can be overcome.

EDIT: Not saying those games are beatable. I have no idea and I strongly suspect they aren't. The $40 for sure isn't, and I'll doubt the $60 is.

Argh, why grind for like $16.00 an hour playing live?( which is what most people that can beat 2nl/5nl hourly's going to be IMO).. unless of course, the casino is close to your house

and playing short stacker poker is only going to limit whatever edge you have obv



This month I've ran bad, and my volume sucks

I'm not happy with my game ATM

Oops, editing.

lol freerollaments
Guess it was villain's favourite hand.

He bust his 3rd rebuy a couple of hands later open shoving K4s from MP.
It's hilarious how many villains will call an all in pre with sooted cards, like T2s but it is a freeroll so I guess they're just flipping it in.
This guy rebought to the max though!

PokerStars - $0+$0|35/70 Ante 14 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+2: 1,598 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (MP): 1,152
MP+1: 1,071 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
CO: 5,445 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 1,406 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
SB: 2,432 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 2,294 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
UTG: 12,626 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG+1: 1,186 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

9 players post ante of 14, SB posts SB 35, BB posts BB 70

Pre Flop: (pot: 231) Hero has 8 8

UTG calls 70, UTG+1 calls 70, UTG+2 calls 70, Hero calls 70, MP+1 raises to 1,057 and is all-in, fold, fold, SB raises to 2,418 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls 1,514 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,068 and is all-in

Flop: (5,699, 4 players) T 5 3

Turn: (5,699, 4 players) 8

River: (5,699, 4 players) T



PokerStars - $0+$0|35/70 Ante 14 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 906 (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 12)
Hero (UTG+1): 4,793
UTG+2: 1,186 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP: 6,208 (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
MP+1: 1,378 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 12)
CO: 1,712 (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 2,161 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 12)
SB: 12,458 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 808 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

9 players post ante of 14, SB posts SB 35, BB posts BB 70

Pre Flop: (pot: 231) Hero has 7 T

UTG raises to 892 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 1,698 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (2,015, 2 players) 5 5 2

Turn: (2,015, 2 players) 5

River: (2,015, 2 players) 8

Yeah I think that was me but that was BvB where the Sb limped IIRC. Not OOP where a fish opened on the button whos short stacked.

speaking of REC... is folding river okay? both SB and BB were clicking buttons. ante 16nl tables are really spewy

PokerStars - $0.16 Ante $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $40.00 (VPIP: 51.79, PFR: 44.64, 3Bet Preflop: 30.77, Hands: 56)
BB: $18.61 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 83.33, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (BTN): $58.66

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16, 3 players post ante of $0.04

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.36) Hero has 7 T

Hero raises to $0.48, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.56, 3 players) 8 T A
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, SB calls $0.80, fold

Turn: ($3.16, 2 players) 9
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.16, 2 players) 7
SB bets $2.08, fold

Well, the diamond flush draw missed, but unfortunately many of the flush draws he would X/C with on the flop would have a J in them. I like folding. I'd be more inclined to call if the turn was a 3s for sure.

You guys like turning AK into a bluff here? Obv we have the NF blocker which is handy. Villain is capable of b/f OTR.

Didn't think he'd be value betting a naked king here, and when the flush completes I think he'll fold two pairs + maaaybbbe sets.

inb4 fps

FPS, no reason you'd ever check a FD on the turn because you struggle to have SDV along with it. Just b/b/b for value.

Yeah thought so. Too much plolol with blockers and crap. AK is never good vs his bet OTR though?

If he's reggish, it should be a call. 66/44 raises the flop often, he can have busted clubs or indeed random floats after you cap your range on the turn, and KQ is probably a vbet in his spot.

wtf?
I meant to raise enough pre to put BB all in.
Didn't see any point in betting flop though - but who calls a 4 bet with only 9bb behind anyway?
PS. I flatted pre because SB had 3 bet a few hands in a row and I expected him to do it again.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.92 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
SB: $4.18 (VPIP: 78.57, PFR: 64.29, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 14)
BB: $1.10 (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: $4.93 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: $5.80 (VPIP: 30.86, PFR: 27.16, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 81)
Hero (CO): $8.10

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K A

fold, MP raises to $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, fold, fold, BB raises to $0.23, MP calls $0.09, Hero raises to $0.65, BB calls $0.42, fold

Flop: ($1.55, 2 players) T 2 T
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.55, 2 players) K
BB bets $0.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.45

River: ($2.45, 2 players) 6



Another wtf. Not folding to flop raise vs. this fish and turn shove seemed FOS, although his limp calling range could be 67, I suppose he could have flopped sets.
These are spots I've been folding a lot recently becaise I just never think anyone is shoving with a worse hand than mine.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $5.99 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
UTG: $7.05 (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 12)
MP: $1.10 (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $4.93 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BTN: $5.80 (VPIP: 31.65, PFR: 27.85, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 79)
Hero (SB): $5.48

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K Q

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.20, fold, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.45, 2 players) 7 2 Q
Hero bets $0.20, UTG raises to $0.55, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.55, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.55, Hero calls $2.55

River: ($6.65, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, UTG checks

Hawk, why are u cbetting so small with TP on wet boards?
60-75% cbet size should be your norm

Just played some play money (about 10 minutes). It's quite a novelty to be 600bb deep and open 25x UTG and STILL get 3 callers.

@birday yeah pretty much agree, FPS otr. You can get fancy and call otr. Imo, KQ is possible here, seeing that villain knows you shutdown on turn and he can be thinking into bettin for value in this spot many times.

Good question - I hadn't noticed.
My norm is the 3/4 pot button so I'm not sure what happened there, unless I hit 1/2 pot and it rounded down?

I've noticed it before in ur HHs so be careful what ur doing mate or ur just giving great odds to draw out on you

Just had a quick 10nl Zoom sesh. Seems to be going ok despite vowing never to Zoom again.

Had to lol when I raised QQ otb and BB shoves 100bbs into me w A8o. Why would u do that?!

Why play money?
Last time I did play money was to try some badugi
Tbh I don't see what can be learned from it, except that people just look at their cards and pretty much ignore the $.

Dunna, I used to always use 3/4 on flop and 1/2 on turn as standard but have started varying my betsize a bit recently but I think the above hand was a misclick.

For a bit of fun. I wanted to play a game in which I could realistically hold a 1000bb/100 winrate.