@Stude

H1 - I think you've got to fold turn. He's 3bet pre and has thought ohh he must have a hand SHOVE TURN. Pre is probably pretty marginal but you're probably ok, as when you did hit your set you do stack him a lot. Flop is maybe a fold though.

H2 - I'd pot/fold river tbh. Still get called by loads of crap we beat and he ain't really folding because we bet pot.

H3 - This is fine when you've seen villain call w/ something crazy in the past. Against even remotely competent regs at 5nl we should check back imo. In fact I'd probably make the river bet a little bigger.

H4 - Why are you not betting three streets?

H5 - Ye, seems fine. When people are that passive we only need to bet for value although our value range should be really big. So I'd argue we should bet AQ on the flop.

Thanks MMSS, really useful.
H4, I called OOP and checked to the raiser on the flop and again on the turn. I expected him to fire again.
In position I'd have bet turn if checked to.

Are you now playing 5NL reg tables at Stars? Or were you staked for 10NL?
Either way, I'll have to avoid you

On another note, does anyone play € or £ tables?
You need an account in those currencies right?
Just wondering how €5NL compares to $5NL, if it plays the same, may as well play € which are worth more £
€5 = £4.23
$5 = £3.12

Ye sorry, I clearly didn't read it properly. What you did is ok, I'd still want to donk turn and river though just so we don't miss out on any value and I'd make it bigger. If the bets for value his range is going to be pretty inelastic so just make it like 45c or something. The only real difference I see is smaller might make someone like that spazz out and raise which we dislike.

Mostly just playing 10nl zoom atm, do intend on sitting at some normal tables when they are good enough though I'd rather 2 table zoom though than sit at nitty normal tables.

As for the currency question, I think you can juts convert the $ to £ or whatever and play whatever you like. There's just a smaller player pool I'd imagine. I know someone who played the euro games and what he did was have most his money in $, some in euro and some in £ and he'd just sit at the best tables available.

I don't get this thread - what it is for??

To post our goals for month?
To post ur graphs?
Post your hands?

All of them and it turns into a place for regular BQ users to have poker discussion mostly in 1 thread

JJ hand is a snap call pre(as it is with any pair since we have HUGE implied odds). fold turn.

it's only a snap call if you can fold your overpair on later streets

Pretty loose call, but did it knowing Pokerstars was gonna give me the flopped nuts (loljoke, actually called because I had seen him barrel 100% in 3b pots with air, so whenever I hit it's good. Plus his 3-betting range had only contained hands like what he turned up with in the time I played with him).





And a pretty loose call on the turn/river, but I expected him to be on tilt due to the hand earlier.
And this, my friends, is why I love regular tables. If I had of been playing ZOOM, I wouldn't have known he could have been tilting on hand 2, and would have just folded.

But both plays, despite being profitable in these instances, aren't ideal I don't think. I know people will probably hate my defend with J8s, and I can understand why, but I've always found myself losing more money with hands such as that that I've defended with rather than hands like AQ or AJ or something, since it's harder to get away from those hands on Qxx/Jxx than it is with a hand like Q9s/J8s.

If someone is 3betting such stupid **** BvB and firing 3 streets with nothing why are you opening J8s? Just tighten up your opening range and let him spew. If we have a hand like AQ and we hit a Q on the flop we're just never folding. Sometimes we lose, but it's going to be so +EV to call. Opening, calling a 3bet only to fold on later streets is just making his play more correct than it should be although it's still going to be awful obviously.

His 3betting frequency wasn't incredibly high, actually. He just tended to be way too aggro in the pots he did choose to 3bet.

J8s is an open on the BTN regardless of who's in the blinds. J4s I'd take your point.

Also, I disagree with xb river re: Stude's third hand. If anything I'd bet turn and river.

I assumed he's 3betting a lot in that situation and spewing post flop so we don't really need to tbh. I don't think people at 5nl should be opening J4s on the button as standard either, just puts them in far too many marginal spots post flop.

Depends how well developed your button strategy is though, I personally think we should be adding lots of SC, Axs type stuff to our button ranges before stuff like J8s, but you're good enough to be opening them in earlier positions so they're in your button range as standard. I mean SC we should be opening before the button anyway but I hope the point makes sense.

That's coming from the POV that we start off nitty when we are learning and add stuff to our range as we get better on the condition we understand why we are opening it.

As for the 3rd hand I don't disagree in this spot against a fish but against someone ok I think it's going to be too thin. I'm probably wrong to think we can't bet river as standard though.

Again i'd still tighten up your opening range or 4b lighter if he's 3b'ing with hands like this.

Goals:
[ ] stay at 25NL
[ ] profit at 25NL
[ ] make a serious pgc thread
[ ] 10 sweat sessions
[ ] read 1 poker book

Gl everyone

I don't think defending J8s from the BTN vs a blinds 3bet is that non-standard actually if our BTN open range is 60% or bigger. We need to defend pretty wide (around a 20% range), and we have position and a reasonably playable hand. I agree with MMSS's points earlier though (although I think that absolutely anyone who wins at their stake should be opening all Axs and most SCs from the BTN).

I'm unsure if 4-betting lighter is better than calling here, to be honest.
As I said, the dude was way too aggressive in 3-bet pots. He'd just bet/bet/bet, which would be okay if his 3-betting range was SOMETIMES Q2ss or something, but when I had seen him 3-betting any suited garbage broadways I don't mind calling, so that in the event of me binking (as this pot showed) he'll just bet/bet/bet and I can win big against him.

I think versus somebody who is less depolarized I'd probably either 4-bet bluff or fold.

given his ******ed triple barrel i'm not folding anything i'm opening on the button when he 3bets. I would tighten up slightly though probably to around 40%.

Eh been running so bad lately, doesn't help that I don't have much time to play. Just gonna try to regroup this month

[ ] Play 200 HUSNGS and analyze interesting hands
[ ] Look back at some books I've started and read more
[ ] Watch some videos on HUSNGS
[ ] Start playing 10NL and be more disciplined and tight
[ ] Be active on tpt

Right, I'm going to add getting an issue of the Digest out to my goals for this month. Was absolutely swamped with work last month; this month I've got fewer extra-curricular things going on so I should find the time.

Good luck to everyone this month! My goals:

[ ] 15k hands
[ ] Remove some C-game traits; add some A-game traits
[ ] Break even
[ ] 3 hours of review/study per week

my first dropping of 10 buyins :/
the river is my enemy xD


i just have to grind it out

What stakes are you playing where $7 is 10 buyins? 0.7NL?

i buyin with minimum (0.8) and go from there. i play on pokerstars the $0.02 6max tables.

I also had a rough day today. Seemed like everyone hit their outs. :P

So, I've caved and withdrew my money from Pokerstars. I'll take a nice long break, and come back a'firin' later.