I don't really think that a 4x raise really commits me to the pot. Against calling stations, we're not betting any air, so we want the pot to be bigger so we can make larger value bets. DUCY?

GL jackwilcox it's a very inspiring thread!

I'm with Birkin on this one; the exception is where villain is stationy, but also fit or fold, basically calling any gutshot or better, but folding air, in which case I am min or 3x raising blind and 1/2 pot cbetting most flops.

Vs stations that bet when checked to, though, that doesn't let you get to showdown with A or K high or whatever, it may get a bit more interesting. But vs weak players I am raising more for value with my stronger range.

Jack, thank you for the thread and for the vid! It's been really helpful.

I have a questions, which probably belongs in the beginner's forum, but I'd like to hear your explanation. In the video you've mentioned that it is more difficult to play post-flop in 3bet pots, why is that?

Thank you.

where abouts in the vid did i say its more difficult to play in 3bet pots??

im not disagreeing that i might have said that, i just want to look at the hand/ why i would have said it

Just went through the vid again and I didn't find the spot. Perhaps I misunderstood something, English not being my first language. I appologize

this.

Firstly, it depends on the opponent. Vs a reg who will always be in 4bet/fold mode if you 3bet them IP, you want to use trash hands or hands that you're ready to 3bet/5bet with. You aren't going to see a flop when you 3bet vs these guys, so you're better off just calling with hands that want to see a flop. (SC's/ small pairs).

Vs a weak player who will call 3bets OOP and play fit or fold, you can really widen your 3betting range IP. You want a value range with a lot of high cards because he'll be calling with dominated hands and you also want to play 3bet pots with him as often as possible so you can use your suited gappers and offsuit connectors vs them as well.

Nice video Jack.

1. Please show some tactics when you hit a set, and how you consider your line against different villains.
2. How about a nice explanation of fighting the blind stealers when in the blinds, consider what hands you will fight with, and what stats you will fight against.
3. Please run a few examples of implied odds draws.

How about an update where you are at with this experiment? Forgive me, I read many of the first pages, took a break for a month, and then caught the video to see how you were doing just today. How has your bankroll progressed up to this level (25NL)? Or just tell me to STFU, quit being lazy, and read the middle, lol.

NL25 has been a weird level for me. i dont think i adjusted particularly well at the start, there is definitally some run bad, but some of what i considered running bad would be where i was getting JJ in pre flop as standard, however peoples ranges were so tight that id be crushed.

so yea, winrate sucks, its like 3ptbb/100 or something after like 8k hands i think at 25NL.

i havent really played much volume lately though, been pretty lazy.

what do u think would be a solid winrate at 25NL; sth like 8-10ptbb/100?

yea for someone is looking to move up it should be about that, assuming you dont run bad.

i mean, people will say that winrates dont matter until like 100k hands, which is true. but the only people playing 100k hands of a limit are those who arent good enough to move up and therefore its not very useful to base your winrate on theirs

good post. thanks.

Well well well... I click on the usual kind of thread that grabs my attention and it's posted by no other than El Presidente.

So THIS is why you missed your exam?! It all makes sense!

Gaz

haha didnt even no who it was until u put gaz at the end

hey jack is that u on your avatar?

lol no, im like 20 years old.

its a guy called karl pilkington who features on the ricky gervais show podcasts

jack-
have you any advise for when u are running bad?? last night i went on a massive downswing, prob nothing to most, but to a beginner its very hard to take? I mean some spots are flips when u see has hand, ie, allin flop overpair to his flush draw, then the usual aa-qq getting cracked within a 2minute period by the most dumbass hands u can think off 84o sorta hands, again allin on flop over pair to there top or btm pair that makes trips on turn/river, today, only played 30mins, i had my striaght runner runnered flush, so i just turned it off!
i know its nothing to most, but just curious if u have any advise for these periods other than keep ur chin up?
brilliant thread
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only thing i can say is to take a break, and after having a break for a couple of days, come back, look at hold'em manager/ poker tracker at your sessions where you 'ran bad' and see if you could have done anything to avoid getting stacked.

if im running bad, its usually partly because i start stacking off lighter in situations where i error on the side of aggression and i think i got unlikely to run into the top of someones range (e.g. i 3bet JJ for example, then ship it in over a 4bet).

when i come back a couple of days later full de-tiltified, i look at it and think "actually i didnt have the image and he didnt have the aggression whereby shoving JJ there is going to be profitable".

i actually had a massive downswing this month of like 15 buyins at 2/4, and i thought i was running bad. when i looked at my game, i realised i was playing too many tables (8-tabling mostly), and assuming a bunch of spots were totally standard when in reality they were super high variance and mostly -EV.

so i took a break for a bit... went out got drunk with my friends, spent my time just playing xbox/ watching t.v/ working out etc...

then i came back to poker, watched some cardrunner vids, looked at my game, went back to the tables and started 4-tabling instead of playing 8. i recovered completely now and am going to end the month on a healthy profit barring anything tragic happening in the next week

so i really dont want to sift through the all the garbage in this thread are you going to be consolidating into a guide soon?

think im going to stop poker for a few days, jesus, its shocking again the night, nut striaght on flop, he bets i just push allin, runner runner flush for villian, last hand of tonights session, qq vrs k10, to be fair he rr my bet on the flop but i thought who calls a three bet with a 10 in there hand- surely at nl10 not very many, no this noob does was k10, flop 10 10 8, wtf u do there? 10 hand on villian, so no reads whatso ever, i prob should fold like, but i dunno!
ahhhhh fek tilt

really great video jack, learned quite a bit from it. please post some more as soon as you get the chance

yea i understand that, theres a lot of spamming/ general comments and stuff which is all well and good (obviously i want people to post stuff in the thread and all), but to someone hasnt been reading it from the beginning i can see the problem...

hopefully afterwards i can go through the thread and pick out all the interesting stuff/ write a bit about each limit and what the differences between them are.

i might deviate slightly from the original plan since i already have quite a lot of experience of NL50 and up, hopefully it wouldnt take too long to write about those levels. this thread is already 30 pages long and ive only really done 2 out of the 5 levels, so it could get incredibly long

how has folding to merge your range helped you in moving up?

jack, in your video u are talking about polarized vs. balanced 3betting and u critisized that guy for not 3betting your CO open with AJ from the blinds. but shouldn't u play with a polarized 3b range until u know that villain is calling with worse hands and then start 3betting a balanced range?