sorry for xpost. got impatient waiting for response in plo forum. i've only played nlhe. played a couple hands of plo (6 max) to get my feet wet and have a question. i thought i knew the basic rules but haven't yet played much, read the forum, etc.

why did btn win? thought it would split. i know i need to play 2 cards from my hand but we don't have 2 cards that play since the board's T is higher. (do we?).

many thanks.

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 4 Q 6 5
3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) A T Q (3 players)

Turn: ($0.30) A (3 players)

River: ($0.30) 5 (3 players)

Final Pot: $0.30
Hero shows 4 Q 6 5 (two pair, Aces and Queens)
BTN shows Q 3 3 8 (two pair, Aces and Queens)
BTN wins $0.28

In omaha, you must use 2 cards from your hand, unlike in NLHE.

So, you both play the AAQ on the board. However, you use your Q6 while he uses his Q8, thus he outkicks you.

thanks. figured that was it but wasn't positive. at first i was surprised it said i had 2 pr. thought if i had to play 2 cards and the T counted, i couldn't even use the Q.

so if i had a lone A of a suit and the board comes 4 of the same suit, i don't have a flush because my second card actually replaces one of those suited cards even if it's a higher value than mine? going to have to re-wire some things to get used to that. not as simple (for me) as it sounds.

Correct on the flush question. If there are 4 of a suit on the board and you have a lone ace of that suit, you do not have a flush.

The first time I ever played PL Omaha H/L I was not totally familiar with the rules and made that exact mistake.

Best way to look at it is just picking out your best 5-card hand while using two of your cards.

might be the first time i've hijacked my own thread

still getting used to quality of hands that are shown down. i have nothing but, to my eyes, some pretty draws. on a paired board is it an easy fold? what if co didn't call?

many thanks.

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $12.34
Hero (BTN): $8.01
SB: $7.88
BB: $11.08
UTG: $3.35
MP: $5.39

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 9 6 J 7
1 fold, MP raises to $0.20, CO calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 8 T T (3 players)
MP bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero ???

whats your ftp screen name

at least i didn't pot thinking i had the nuts w/2 pr. won't get my $ that easy should the second hand be equally obvious to me?

In PLO you generally want to be drawing to the nuts, so you'd be much better having Ax than Jx. You also need to be vary wary on paired boards. Even if you hit your straight/flush it may be losing to a full house. As for starting hand strength you always want to have all 4 hole cards working together. J976 double suited is a reasonable starting hand, but something like QJT9 double suited would be much better.

I found this article very useful when i first started playing.

http://www.pokerlistings.com/pot-limit-omaha

Also in Pot Limit Omaha the draws are big...as you could flop top set and be the underdog to a wrap around straight flush draw.

Here is a little hand that can help you on understanding how you must use two cards.

If you have J-10-7-8 vs A 4 5 10

Board shows: 2 J 2 K 2

The winning hand here would be A-4-5-10

As your pair of Jacks don't play since there is three deuces on board and the winning hand is three deuces with A-10 kicker.

Edit: Or maybe i'm talking rubbish, lol.

I'm a PLO noob, and still have it all to learn, but one thing I do know is that reverse implied odds can make nasty dents in your stack in PLO.

Ask yourself, what hand is going to pay you off if you DO hit your flush?

Remember, the board is paired, so chasing even the nut flush is probably a mistake.

With the fourth nut flush, do you really expect to make a lot of money from a baby flush?

This is the sort of hand where you're going to win a small pot or lose a big one. Easy fold in my opinion.