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06-18-2008 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis69
Doug,

Teach me how to play PLO/Stud. K tnx.
like i can play those games lol
06-18-2008 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BuildUp
Hey,
I have played cash poker now about 1 month. I got startcapital 50$ and started playing NL 0.02/0.05. I play on 9-11 tables. My gamestyle is tight-agressive. My problem is that i win very nice pots but i also lose them. And because of all those limpers and players who just have luck. I increased my BR few days ago to 100$, but now i´m back on 50$. This is quite sick. Do you have any suggestion what should i do? Should i play tight-passive?! or what?

And how should i play pocketpairs? For example if i have pocket 88 should i raise them or call BB. And when somebody raises 4xBB before me should i call with my pocket 44 or fold?
lol tight passive.

No, play 1/2c and stay tag. Be willing to let go of hands when people say your beat and move on. People will out draw you a lot but dont pay off their ******ation.
06-18-2008 , 10:55 AM
I feel lost I have no idea how I am supposed to get better at poker I just don't understand anything anymore I try to think what's profitable I read strategy but it is too hard I just don't have the mental capacity for it it is like trying to learn chinese from watchign how it is spoken am I just too dumb to get good at poker what should I do ;(
06-18-2008 , 12:36 PM
3 Step process

1) Use punctuation
2)????????
3) Profit

No but seriously, you have to make that decision for yourself. If you cant dedicate yourself to improving dont waste your time or money. If you want to do it, do it right and start from the bottom. Gotta make those decisions for yourself.
06-19-2008 , 11:27 AM
say you got AJ you raised from BTN BB called. flop is 22T BB goes all in for 100 when theres 10 bux in the pot.
06-19-2008 , 01:00 PM
I'm too passive preflop, I always raise first in but I'm kinda passive if someone else has raised before me. In a full ring game, what is my 3 betting range in late position against a mid position raiser who is playing 17/8?
06-19-2008 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by academis
say you got AJ you raised from BTN BB called. flop is 22T BB goes all in for 100 when theres 10 bux in the pot.
Reall important here to have a very good pair of sunglasses so you can read his soul.
06-19-2008 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
I'm too passive preflop, I always raise first in but I'm kinda passive if someone else has raised before me. In a full ring game, what is my 3 betting range in late position against a mid position raiser who is playing 17/8?
JJ+/AK/sc's
06-21-2008 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by WCGRider
JJ+/AK/sc's
sc's only if 5/10 rule??
06-21-2008 , 02:08 AM
If you had to create a curriculum for a Poker University, what would the syllabus look like, from freshmen to P.H.D? Or to put it another way, if you tutored a student, what kind of program would you create?
06-21-2008 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mtrip
If you had to create a curriculum for a Poker University, what would the syllabus look like, from freshmen to P.H.D? Or to put it another way, if you tutored a student, what kind of program would you create?
this is just far too complicated for me to go into.
06-21-2008 , 09:46 AM
With a little bit of table selection and an ounce of common sense, what will my loserate (or winrate??) at 25NL FR be with the following simple strategy:

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It consists of nothing but preflop strategy, being tight and wary of aggression, and getting it in with monsters.
1)Play all pocket pairs and AK from any position, nothing more down to UTG+3
2)Play 20-25% of your hands (all suited connectors, suited aces, offsuit aces down to A8, broadway except KTo and QTo, random suited gappers) from the button when folded to you or when a few loose passive bad players have limped in front of you
3)In the same situation play 15%-20% of your hands from the cutoff, 10-12% from the one before, 8%-10% from the one before by personal judgement
4)Never open limp, rarely limp along. Only cold-call raises with nothing but pocket pairs when you are getting set odds (more than 10:1 implied odds)
5)Don't 3bet into most people without AA/KK, against loose players with AK, get it in with them, against lagtards you can add AQ, QQ, maybe JJ
6)Cbet into a single loose-passive player 100% of the time, but give up to resistance if you don't have anything
7)Get it in with a set or better against anyone, with two pair or better against looser aggressiver opponents when it's likely they have top pair or overpair, value bet TPTK three streets against loose passive players but fold to big raises.
8)Don't slowplay
9)When you're not sure wether to call or fold, fold
10)When you're not sure wether to value bet or check, value bet
06-23-2008 , 11:25 AM
Hey WCG. Just wanted to say that you have been a tremendous help to the poker community and I appreciate everything that you have given back.

Basic background... 100NL 6max regular. Bankrolled. TAGish stats 20/16/3. Been playing seriously for 2 years now.

I have 2 questions.
After evaluating my game, I find the biggest leak in my game is that in bvb situations if im in the sb, I raise pf, they call, and I get floated on way too many flops when i c-bet. And the thing is, i am only hitting the flop 1/3 times and i can almost never take a lot of heat since i will a lot of the time have top par weak kicker, mid pair or some sort of draws. So thus, i'm folding when villains are raising, and just c/f most turns. The thing is, i was thinking that 3betting flops such as J83 when they raise IP or betting turns on Q974 when they flat on the flop are such obvious spots where i'm overrepresenting my hand. I am wondering how I can combat this leak since I'm giving up a lot of money by just folding and letting people take adavantage of me in position. I know though that in 6max cash, limping is pretty bad and it is either raising or folding. Sometimes i just want to fold my JTs bc i know that i'm just going to have to c/f if i miss that i would rather just fold, even though i know in the long run that it will definitely be a +EV play. What do you do in these situations to make villains float you less and give up more?

Also, What is the one thing that you did which helped up move up in stakes and not a break even player? Grinding at 100NL is fine, but I know that I am not making as much as i should, and winning standard AIPF AK to QQ or hitting coolers. Instead you need to be getting people to put in stacks in situations with their marginal holdings, and i am having trouble down here doing that.

Thanks for all your help.
06-23-2008 , 08:02 PM
Hey WCG. I've played against you plenty. Lots of respect for you on my end. Just wondering if you'd be kind enough to take a look at a hand for me. Here's the link to the thread...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=233503


I know there's not enough information on the players here for your liking, however I'm sure you'll have some good advice.

Thanks
06-28-2008 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Vantek
With a little bit of table selection and an ounce of common sense, what will my loserate (or winrate??) at 25NL FR be with the following simple strategy:
I mean it should be good? The ideas looked good but there are variables you need to take into context.
06-28-2008 , 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TPTK77
Hey WCG. Just wanted to say that you have been a tremendous help to the poker community and I appreciate everything that you have given back.

Basic background... 100NL 6max regular. Bankrolled. TAGish stats 20/16/3. Been playing seriously for 2 years now.

I have 2 questions.
After evaluating my game, I find the biggest leak in my game is that in bvb situations if im in the sb, I raise pf, they call, and I get floated on way too many flops when i c-bet. And the thing is, i am only hitting the flop 1/3 times and i can almost never take a lot of heat since i will a lot of the time have top par weak kicker, mid pair or some sort of draws. So thus, i'm folding when villains are raising, and just c/f most turns. The thing is, i was thinking that 3betting flops such as J83 when they raise IP or betting turns on Q974 when they flat on the flop are such obvious spots where i'm overrepresenting my hand. I am wondering how I can combat this leak since I'm giving up a lot of money by just folding and letting people take adavantage of me in position. I know though that in 6max cash, limping is pretty bad and it is either raising or folding. Sometimes i just want to fold my JTs bc i know that i'm just going to have to c/f if i miss that i would rather just fold, even though i know in the long run that it will definitely be a +EV play. What do you do in these situations to make villains float you less and give up more?

Also, What is the one thing that you did which helped up move up in stakes and not a break even player? Grinding at 100NL is fine, but I know that I am not making as much as i should, and winning standard AIPF AK to QQ or hitting coolers. Instead you need to be getting people to put in stacks in situations with their marginal holdings, and i am having trouble down here doing that.

Thanks for all your help.
First 1 is a tough one, and i dont know how much you are raising ot but i find going 4 bb instead of 3 bb DRASTICALLY reduces how much you get played back at. Postflop you have to be sort of stationy BvB imo, and without solid reads sometimes your gonna have to be willing to attach to hands that arent that pleasant but people get so spewy you sort of have to in order to protect your hands.

Second question is a bit vague, and I think posting hands is a good start. Start posting the marginal spots, loosen up a bit pf, and start trying to play good.

Hope that helps.

~Doug
06-28-2008 , 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JimiRecall
Hey WCG. I've played against you plenty. Lots of respect for you on my end. Just wondering if you'd be kind enough to take a look at a hand for me. Here's the link to the thread...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...d.php?t=233503


I know there's not enough information on the players here for your liking, however I'm sure you'll have some good advice.

Thanks
Definitely have to jam that flop man, your hand has too much equity to give up and there are too many bad turns. Jam when it gets to you and hope it works out =p.
07-03-2008 , 08:18 AM
Hi WCG,
I've been playing poker for 2 months (still a noobie) and have read HOH: 1 and 2 and started building a gradual bankroll on everest from $50. I've been waiting for the 2+2 bonus to clear and get more study material. Since I've read the tournement books, I feel more confident in playing SnG rather than cash games. Is this the right move? I've been playing $0.55 SnG and sometimes $1.10. Heard that rake wasn't very good at these levels to play so wasn't worth it bue I feel too pressured on my bankroll. So far this month, my ROI 65.29 but its a very small sample. Should I keep grinding it out and see how the figues change?

Thanks,
bigbros2
07-06-2008 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bigbros2
Hi WCG,
I've been playing poker for 2 months (still a noobie) and have read HOH: 1 and 2 and started building a gradual bankroll on everest from $50. I've been waiting for the 2+2 bonus to clear and get more study material. Since I've read the tournement books, I feel more confident in playing SnG rather than cash games. Is this the right move? I've been playing $0.55 SnG and sometimes $1.10. Heard that rake wasn't very good at these levels to play so wasn't worth it bue I feel too pressured on my bankroll. So far this month, my ROI 65.29 but its a very small sample. Should I keep grinding it out and see how the figues change?

Thanks,
bigbros2
I suppose, if you want to. But I really would try to move over to cash asap. Its just more profitable iyam. Start posting in some cash forums, and get in the game. If your content, stay where you are. Just try to be open to maximize your profitability.
07-06-2008 , 07:48 AM
Hey WCG,

I've been playing on and off for more than a year now. I built up my roll 3 times now from like $20 or something. Always ended up cashing out and spending it.

Anyways in about 2 months I took $50 and turned it into $2k playing .02/.05 6max on stars, buying in for 200bb. Probably the nittiest thing you've ever heard right? I'm running at 28/24 at these stakes. I don't want to cash out anymore and want to continue building this roll.

Do you think I'm ready for 25nl? I just hate 25nl so much. I remember running horrible when I tried playing it with my previous bankrolls. Should I continue to play the same style? or should I tighten up from 28/24 ? Any other tips to beat 25nl? I understand basic concepts now like balancing ranges etc but I dont know if it applies to these micro stakes.

Also, what adjustments should I make going from 200bb to 100bb games?
07-07-2008 , 01:04 AM
Hey. Need a little advice on this one. No stats on villian... I'm pretty sure I can lay this down against some tighter players, but not against an unknown. My thinking at the time was he could have played a lot of Ax hands this way, so I just crossed my fingers on this one. Against a better known, tight aggressive opponent; call turn/call river?

=) Daniel


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $135.70
MP1: $9.50
MP2: $20.65
Hero (CO): $50.95
BTN: $9.75
SB: $60.95
BB: $24.70
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $93.80

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K A
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) A 6 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $11, Hero raises to $43.25, UTG raises to $45 all in, Hero calls $1.75
07-18-2008 , 02:01 AM
I worked out that online when i do well/go deep in a tourney i see about 50% of flops. It feels too high an amount or is it just me? And finally should i take this stat and loosen up my live play?
07-18-2008 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by daxtrader
Hey WCG,

I've been playing on and off for more than a year now. I built up my roll 3 times now from like $20 or something. Always ended up cashing out and spending it.

Anyways in about 2 months I took $50 and turned it into $2k playing .02/.05 6max on stars, buying in for 200bb. Probably the nittiest thing you've ever heard right? I'm running at 28/24 at these stakes. I don't want to cash out anymore and want to continue building this roll.

Do you think I'm ready for 25nl? I just hate 25nl so much. I remember running horrible when I tried playing it with my previous bankrolls. Should I continue to play the same style? or should I tighten up from 28/24 ? Any other tips to beat 25nl? I understand basic concepts now like balancing ranges etc but I dont know if it applies to these micro stakes.

Also, what adjustments should I make going from 200bb to 100bb games?

not hijacking your thread wgc but i was bored and hsnl.msnl sucks right now...

anyway, its pretty standard to tighten up when you move up at these levels (when you play high msnl low hsnl most people need to do the opposite)

i would recommend you move and play like 20/17 ish
i dont know much about your game but i would focus on getting value from good hands and not worry about balancing your range too much and i would avoid complicated or risking bluffs

eg: you have AK on a A5T flop, (6max) and raise pre to pot you get a caller from teh blinds...bet pot, they C/C bet pot again

eg you have 9Ts on a K55 flop, you cbet, they C/C...give up most of the time

people at these games are bad bc they call too much...so you want to exploit them by turning their exaggerated qualities into vices not virtues
07-18-2008 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JimiRecall
Hey. Need a little advice on this one. No stats on villian... I'm pretty sure I can lay this down against some tighter players, but not against an unknown. My thinking at the time was he could have played a lot of Ax hands this way, so I just crossed my fingers on this one. Against a better known, tight aggressive opponent; call turn/call river?

=) Daniel


Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $135.70
MP1: $9.50
MP2: $20.65
Hero (CO): $50.95
BTN: $9.75
SB: $60.95
BB: $24.70
UTG: $50.00
UTG+1: $93.80

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with K A
UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) A 6 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $11, Hero raises to $43.25, UTG raises to $45 all in, Hero calls $1.75
you should bet more on teh turn, like $7+
also, because people can be going for value with a random A you cant really fold this ever

obviously though...this is what poker is all about-ranging so if you know they never CR with out a full then fold but that is rarely going to be the case
07-18-2008 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by roza7
I worked out that online when i do well/go deep in a tourney i see about 50% of flops. It feels too high an amount or is it just me? And finally should i take this stat and loosen up my live play?
this is almost unbelievable...if you are playing full ring i would recommend you see about 12-18% of the flops

for 6max: 15-25%


by live im assuming you mean cash (live or online-for our purpose here-is irrelevant) yes, i would recommend you play looser in cash than tourneys but you play way too loose in tourneys

      
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