AT is never going to be dominating, point blank. The hands they open like 78s and 66, AT doesnt dominate. And they WILL be opening AJ-AK, JJ, and AA, so those handsa re still in there range. You arent looking at this correctly, DO NOT 3 bet (or call USUALLY) with a hand like AJ/AT, it is just bad in almost all situations.

Uh no he would not be and your going adjust if he 100 bb shoved facing a 13 bb reraise.

You have so few hands you actually cant even begin to establish any information from them.

And also not to be a douche but those stats are COMPLETELY Not tag. Tag is 15/13, tag is 18/16 for six max. Tag is not a 12-15% difference between Vpip and PFR lol. if it is > then 4 you probably arent tag. STOP LIMPING THAT GARBAGE.

You are too passive, and you limp too much. STOP CALLING PREFLOP. 3 BET or FOLD. OPEN RAISE HANDS.

You really really really really need to stop playing trash.

Hey, you mention pick a game and stick to it, should I stick to sng games because I.m good at it or should I move to cash games instead and learn it

Cash games and learn it from the ground up. Through the forums. Post all your hands. Learn.

Hey WCGRider.
I went from FR limit to FR NL and 6max NL, yet i cant climb out of micro stakes. In FR NL i was winning player but got bored of nitnness so went to 6 max. In my database since dec i won like 100bi for nl25 (6ptbb), yet when moving to nl50 i played 40k breakeven. Since winning at nl25 doesnt do it for me, should i go back to FR? Is FR nl50, nl100 easier than its 6max counterpart?

I realize that table selection is important in doing well at cash games. And that if you are a regular at a level, you'll have your fish list and your hud stats to tell you where to sit. However, what do you suggest doing when you are moving up levels and you have no stats on those at your new level?

thanks for the discussion...so people in your games dont open suited aces and suited KT,QT,JT and 9T from late pos.?

so what your actually saying is the player WOULD be right to move over over you based on the hand range you 3 bet w/ and the range you would actually call the shove w/ but you would adjust quickly due to size of the shove correct?

what would that adjustment be? not 3 betting this guy lite anymore? isnt that good for him as well?

: popcorngif :

Thanks for doing this. I'm just rolled for NL5 and about to move to NL10. My stats are 16/10/2.5. I'm under on what my PF raise should be and working to tighten it up. I have a good understanding of the basics, and I'm currently working on things like 3-betting light, finding the right spots to valuebet, and generally how to maximize value with all my hands. My questions are:

1) While I'm still trying to learn these things, should I be focusing on playing only a couple tables at once to better think through these spots until I get to a spot where I feel like I completely understand it, or should I be actively multi-tabling in order to build my roll, forgoing some of that focus and adhering to a more basic game just to quickly reach NL25 and NL50. I would probably still be improving, but not at the same rate as focusing on only a couple tables. It just feels like a tradeoff to me since

2 Tabling - make the most out of indivual hands, focus on outplaying players more easily and better internalize what's learned, but there's no real money, building BR is a huge, slow grind, and it doesn't really motivate

Multi-tabling - bankroll grows very quickly, it's much easier to be motivated to sit down for a session because of more action, but I'm giving up spots that could be better played, I'm less likely and slower to internalize what's learned.

I'm not sure which is better at the learning stage since both have good points, and currently I have sessions where I only 2-table while other sessions I'll 10-table with a fairly robotic strategy. So which way was better for you to learn and move up to making real money playing?

Thanks WCG!

I hope this post doesn't come off as conceited, i am just happy that poker has offered me the opportunity that it has, and i am looking to give back here a bit. I will also post in some of the threads but a lot of them tilt me because a lot of the questions are thee same ones over and over again, and a lot of the people who give advice in this forum are not even necessarily correct. Regardless generally speaking it is ok advice and I want to help you! So go ahead and ask me anything cash game related. Hands, Strategy, BR, you name it, i am here to help.[/QUOTE]

Yeah guy it does sound conceited. I read the reply you gave to the guy about uNl (what is the "u" in NL for ). Lighten up on the guy. People need to feel like they can come here and not get beaten up and you ripped the guy a new one. It's great that you want to help us but it doesn't help if people read 1 reply from you and never come back!!

A lot of this stuff depends on your style. If you are more aggressive and like to play more hands obviously six max is more suitable for you. I need some numbers and possibly graphs to go off of to make a better analysis but i think deep down you know where you are better and should stick with that.

(They are certainly both valid)

Can you describe a squeeze play?

I have 89s in the sb, Co opens to 4 bb, button cc. I raise it to 15 bb. They both fold.

The opener opened in late position and likely has nothing, also if he decides to continue the hand he has 2 people to worry about. The caller likely has a marginal hand that cant withstand a raise of that magnitute and the implied odds of hitting a hand are now gone.

[QUOTE=WCGRider;3383242]You are too passive, and you limp too much. STOP CALLING PREFLOP. 3 BET or FOLD. OPEN RAISE HANDS.

You really really really really need to stop playing trash.[/QUO

Thanks for this. I will put this advice into play and see how my play improves from here.

Everyone millionaires ye\t?

I would just like to say that I would be very happy to come here, to be shouted at and even abused in return for such excellent advice. I want to learn how to build my bankroll - I'll let my ego take care of itself.

Hi, thanks for starting this thread.

I've nearly cleared my PokerStars bonus, which should bring my BR to ~$300 - I'm looking to move sites, somewhere I can play 10NL and get a good bonus + rakeback (btw does Rakeback go directly into your Poker account?). I'm Brit so I guess I can play on any site - any suggestions?

Thanks.

Thumbs up.

As for questions... how do different sites compare to each other, and especially how does Party compare to others? I hope I can at least learn the game there properly?

2nd, how do cash games and tournaments compare? I understand you should stick to one foremost, but in terms of profit etc is there much difference WHICH?

Just asking for the off the top of your head answers here don't make much effort ^^

Doug, you are a cool dude.

Doug, thanks for this. Am new to 2+2 but not new to forums, however i've heard this is the nuts compared to what i was using. How right those people were!

I 6 table NL25 FR, and am looking at developing my game as Uni breaks soon and the bastards who i was looking at working for rejected me at the last stage. So I have 3 months from June 4th to make some money.

www.the3ktuitionmission.blogpost.com is my blog, have a couple of hands on there, the first one especially is still bugging me!

Is 8k hands enough to find out my true style of play?

GL

Cheers!

Hey WCG. I just moved up to 25nl last month and plan to play at least 20k hands with a 5+ptBB/100 winrate before moving up to 50nl, I've got another 6k to go (lol I'm BR'ed for 100nl but I'm a nit, that's what I get for sitting at 10nl for 6 months).

I think I've played a few hundred hands with you when you were still at 25nl before I knew what BR management was and was playing underrolled a while back, unless this was one of your challenges when you came down several levels, your play was quite intimidating and found myself in tough spots OOP a lot against you, and all that 3betting tilted the **** out of me . Your stats were very similar to what you said they are now.

I've really been working on 3betting/folding like you said and have managed to run comfortably at 16/13/3 compared to my old 20/12/1.5 for the past month.

Anyways, I like to multitable a lot as I find it helps me fold marginal hands and keeps me out of trouble. I usually 8-12 table FR and was wondering what kind of layout you find works best for 24 tabling, ie. tiling/stacking etc. I can keep up with 18 tables max but can't make decisions properly on more than 12.

Also, which HUD stats do you find most useful and which ones do you place on the table?

Greetings from Norway!

First of all I would like to say thanks for giving back and thumbs up for all the positive and good feedback.
I am not a regular poster at 2+2 (as you can see). But I read it everyday in search of good advice like this.

My questions was; how many tables do you consider to be optimal for getting better at the game, rather than making money.
And at what stakes do you advice getting rakeback?

I play 10nl atm, running: 16.47/12.28/2.77 <- any advice on this would also be appreciated.

I've only recently starting multitabling, how do you get it to where all your tables are visible at once and lined up with the PS software. for the life of me I cannot figure this out. i have a puny monitor though... so can't do too many tables like this

Hey WCG, if you haven't already answered, what site(s) do you play? Winrate at NL400+ ?

Have you played NL400+ at multiple sites? Care to share the goods & bads ie. game flow, reg toughness, fishiness, support ?