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My 5th time playing at a Casino, What should I have done? My 5th time playing at a Casino, What should I have done?

12-30-2023 , 10:53 AM
I’m playing at a large Casino in 1/3 NL (8 max) that from what I’ve read and experienced, plays pretty aggressively and large in comparison to other casinos ($500-$100 buy in). I’ve been at this table for 2 hours

Anyway situation is as follows: I am UTG with A s K d, and make it 6. UTG + 1 Calls, HighJack makes it 20, Dealer Calls, Folds to me and I make it 100. Everyone folds but HighJack quickly calls. Going to a flop pot is about 230 and I now have 210 Behind, HighJack has 500 behind.
(For context my pre flop image is pretty tight as this is the 3rd hand I’ve 3 bet in 2 hours, 1 of which got to showdown and I had JJ… Although I’m not sure if this player took any consideration)

Flop comes Q s J s and 7 h

Within 6 seconds I announce all in, and get essentially snap called, he flips over A h J c. Did I inadvertently make my line look extremely bluffy?
Any tips/advice/opinions greatly appreciated.
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12-30-2023 , 11:55 AM
Your preflop 4-bet size was large, given the initial raise and the calls.
This can make your hand look stronger and potentially polarize your range.
The flop comes QsJs7h, and you quickly go all in.
This rapid action can indeed make your line appear bluffy, especially if your opponents have picked up on your relatively tight image.

Shoving the flop doesn't look like a mistake given the stack-to-pot ratio.

Some suggestions:

Vary Your Bet Sizing:
Consider varying your 4-bet sizing depending on the situation.
Against aggressive opponents, a smaller 4-bet might induce more calls and allow you to control the pot size.

Timing Tells:
Be mindful of the speed of your decisions.
Rapid actions can be perceived as strong or bluffy, especially when going all in.
Take a moment to consider your options before making significant moves.

Observing Opponents:
Pay attention to how your opponents react to various situations.
If they seem attentive to your playing style, try to mix things up to keep them guessing.


Remember, poker is a dynamic game, and adjustments are crucial.
Keep observing your opponents, mix up your play, and be aware of the image you're projecting at the table.
Analyzing hands and seeking feedback, as you've done here, is an excellent way to improve your game continually.
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12-30-2023 , 12:32 PM
Your bet sizing needs work.

I don't know where you're playing, but 2x or even 3x open raises won't thin the field in an environment where your opponents "didn't drive an hour to the casino to fold preflop." Live 1/3 I'm opening 4x or 5x depending on table tendencies.

Villain then 3! to 20. What does that tell you about their range?

Before you 4 bet here, think of your stack size. Even a reasonable raise here (like to 60, for example) puts you in an awkward spot if you get called. SPR will be <2 (as played it's < 1).

As played, your shove only gets called when you're behind.

In general when posting a hand, don't post your final action and the result of the hand. In this hand, to get the best analysis, ask for suggestions on what you should do on the flop. It's very hard to give the proper advice once we know the result.
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12-30-2023 , 01:03 PM
I knew raising to 6 UTG likely wasn’t gonna do much, but that’s the sizing I was using UTG the entire night, late position raises I’d been making 12 when opening.

Since it was a bluff post flop, I definitely could not get called by anything worse, but my Range had AA, KK, QQ, AK, JJ, TT and maybe AQ (if I was playing relatively close to a pre flop chart). Considering he called w/ AJ, these win majority of the time but I definitely was not expecting a call and definitely not a snap call.

In terms of my all in I was kind of planning on a post flop shove (on a Q or higher board) no matter what….
Because I couldn’t really C bet without being stuck. If I bet like 75 right there, then I’m left with 135 into a 380 pot on the turn which isn’t ideal because I have no fold equity at that point.

I think my bet was obviously polarizing, but It seems so odd he could snap call that quick with middle pair (which leaves me wondering if I had some egregious tell).

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Originally Posted by Kurn, son of Mogh
Your bet sizing needs work.

I don't know where you're playing, but 2x or even 3x open raises won't thin the field in an environment where your opponents "didn't drive an hour to the casino to fold preflop." Live 1/3 I'm opening 4x or 5x depending on table tendencies.

Villain then 3! to 20. What does that tell you about their range?

Before you 4 bet here, think of your stack size. Even a reasonable raise here (like to 60, for example) puts you in an awkward spot if you get called. SPR will be <2 (as played it's < 1).

As played, your shove only gets called when you're behind.

In general when posting a hand, don't post your final action and the result of the hand. In this hand, to get the best analysis, ask for suggestions on what you should do on the flop. It's very hard to give the proper advice once we know the result.
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12-30-2023 , 03:54 PM
I'm not saying you have a tell or don't - but I find it very unlikely that he called you because he had picked up a tell. He was willing to put in 1/3 of his effective stack with AJ offsuit against a tight player who 4-bet large over his 3-bet. He then connects with the flop. This type of player is simply never going to fold there.
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12-30-2023 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
I'm not saying you have a tell or don't - but I find it very unlikely that he called you because he had picked up a tell. He was willing to put in 1/3 of his effective stack with AJ offsuit against a tight player who 4-bet large over his 3-bet. He then connects with the flop. This type of player is simply never going to fold there.
Take this to heart. A solid quarter, to a third of live 1/3 players fit this description.
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12-30-2023 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by StraddleDaddy
For context my pre flop image is pretty tight
How do you know? Did you ask anyone? 95% of the players at this level don't pay enough attention to even realize how long you've been at the table.
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01-25-2024 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by StraddleDaddy
I’m playing at a large Casino in 1/3 NL (8 max) that from what I’ve read and experienced, plays pretty aggressively and large in comparison to other casinos ($500-$100 buy in). I’ve been at this table for 2 hours

Anyway situation is as follows: I am UTG with A s K d, and make it 6. UTG + 1 Calls, HighJack makes it 20, Dealer Calls, Folds to me and I make it 100. Everyone folds but HighJack quickly calls. Going to a flop pot is about 230 and I now have 210 Behind, HighJack has 500 behind.
(For context my pre flop image is pretty tight as this is the 3rd hand I’ve 3 bet in 2 hours, 1 of which got to showdown and I had JJ… Although I’m not sure if this player took any consideration)

Flop comes Q s J s and 7 h

Within 6 seconds I announce all in, and get essentially snap called, he flips over A h J c. Did I inadvertently make my line look extremely bluffy?
Any tips/advice/opinions greatly appreciated.
1. Your initial preflop raise was too small and greatly skewed analysis in this hand. A larger raise makes the hand play very differently.

2. Your postflop shove is questionable at this level. At higher levels you might get AJ to fold but at this level there are lots of people whose analysis consists of nothing more than "I connected with the flop there is lots of money in the pot, so I call."

At this level such a bet might be smart (i.e.a player who always sees ghosts) so they fold 2nd pair no matter what the pot odds are. It could also be dumb. A player will call anything simply because they hit. Lower levels are much more read dependant.
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