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09-07-2008 , 04:04 PM

QuaLM!

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Hey guys..

Can you givve me the percenteges of a typical loose agressive player??

Like;

Total hands:
Hands played:
Flops seen:
Turn Seen:
River Seen:

Showdown seen:

thnx and good luck

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09-07-2008 , 06:50 PM

Bacon

Makes everything better

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By Pokertracker auto-rate definition...(Fullring)

Vol. Put Money In Pot % is greater than or equal to 33.00
Aggression Factor - Total is greater than or equal to 1.50
Pre-flop Raise % is greater than or equal to 10.00

Total hands: 100%?
Hands played: 33%
Flops seen: 31% (maybe he folds to raises preflop a few times?)
Turn seen: 15% (Aggressive players typically bet or fold)
River seen: 12% (if they made it to turn they're probably making it to river)

The turn/river seen crap I just educated guess

Flops/turns/rivers seen should just be a scaler of hands played. Forexample if he plays 60%, Flops seen would go to ~55% and turns to ~27% etc

Last edited by Bacon; 09-07-2008 at 06:58 PM.

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09-07-2008 , 07:10 PM

Cruzerthebruzer

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That sounds like a terrible lag.

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09-07-2008 , 07:11 PM

QuaLM!

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5

is this about LOOSE player???i mean 33% hands played??if it is then wat about tight players??

Can give some numbers cruzerthebruzer ??? numbers from a wining LAG...

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09-07-2008 , 07:15 PM

Cruzerthebruzer

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I have no idea about all those stats for LAG, but 33% vpip and seeing 31% of flops seems pretty bad.

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09-07-2008 , 07:22 PM

QuaLM!

stranger

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why it is bad??is it too high?Can u explain it in simple form??

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09-07-2008 , 07:43 PM

breathweapon

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Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer

I have no idea about all those stats for LAG, but 33% vpip and seeing 31% of flops seems pretty bad.

Over 350k hands I'm running at 33$ vpip and 25% flops seen for 7bb/100 at NL200, it's not that bad if most of your vpip is coming from the button, my %steal is close to 50.

@OP it's not about meeting a percentage so much as it is about knowing where to increase your percentage from, you have to get use to playing some real garbage on the button.

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09-07-2008 , 07:49 PM

Cruzerthebruzer

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25% is a lot less than 31%.

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09-07-2008 , 08:15 PM

breathweapon

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Originally Posted by Cruzerthebruzer

25% is a lot less than 31%.

Fair enough, I wasn't certain whether or not you meant both numbers were bad or one number was bad relative to the other.

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09-07-2008 , 08:31 PM

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Cruzerthebruzer

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Nah just meant he should probably fold more PF to action with the bottom of his range.

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09-08-2008 , 09:53 AM

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QuaLM!

stranger

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i asked somethin but u both just discussion...RE u a LAG player breathweapon??

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09-08-2008 , 03:17 PM

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konvert

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Lag players are definitely in the 30s range for VPIP. I think there are alot of LAGs that play fairly differently after the flop has come, which is the fundamental difference between a good LAG and a losing LAG. I wouldn't have the slightest idea on the turn and rivers seen, but I would think the higher the number the worse the player would have to be doing especially since the player sees more flops with a wider range of hands and with worse overall average hand strength, which would cause his percent to see later streets less than the TAG. Just my opinion though.

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