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02-02-2011 , 07:57 PM

FindNameHere

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Someone asked me what I thought were the Fundamentals, The things you have down before you evolve into a better higher level player,.

I had my answers, Im interested in hearing yours?

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02-02-2011 , 08:06 PM

wompwompwomp

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1) Bankroll management
2) Hand reading
3) Tilt control
4) Studying the game
5) Grind ethic

in that order imo

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02-02-2011 , 08:48 PM

isac1984

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1) Tiltcontrol (tilt leads to no BR)
2) Bankroll Managment
3) Handreading (AND TRUSTING YOUR READS not "ok he has a set but i have AK i call")
4) Studying the game.
5) playing.

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02-02-2011 , 10:46 PM

Jared Kay

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I don't consider myself a higher level player, but I think these are the important skills I need to work on to improve:

1. Reading villain's ranges and playing patterns.
2. Adapting playstyle each hand to best defeat villain(s).

Honestly I feel like these are really the only 2 important parts of poker. Things like bankroll management and tilt control are just common sense, and I consider them separate from the game.

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02-02-2011 , 10:51 PM

wisdommaster1

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1. Learning to play position
2. Learn a solid TAG game (then become more Laggy if you prefer)
3. How/when to value bet
4. Tilt Control
5. Once you become a winning player, Bankroll management

not sure about the order but BR management is last

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02-02-2011 , 11:06 PM

Masq

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Some of the stuff's already been said.

I'd like to add folding to the attributes.

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02-03-2011 , 05:13 AM

DiamondDog

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Decisions >>>>> Results.

Definitely in my list of the top 5.

Not sure what the other 4 are but probably what other guys have already said.

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02-03-2011 , 05:15 AM

Exothermic

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i think fundamentals are very wide!!!!... some of the things listed are the general things but i mean preflop game has its own fundamentals with which style your using... same with postflop and blind vs blind etc...

but yea most important ones off the top of my head:

bankroll management
hand reading
choosing a play style & know why you play it and the + & -
think of the $ as chips/bb/buy ins rather than money

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02-03-2011 , 05:21 AM

4G24BM

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range merging

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02-03-2011 , 05:24 AM

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Nerdrage

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I guess I'm the only one that thinks of fundamentals as the most basic things??

Pot Odds
Bet Sizing
Counting Outs
Position

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02-03-2011 , 05:28 AM

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Cheeze-Wizzz

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Tilt control
Tilt control
Tilt control
Tilt control
Tilt control

I know this and I still can't control it.

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02-03-2011 , 06:58 AM

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FindNameHere

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Originally Posted by Nerdrage

I guess I'm the only one that thinks of fundamentals as the most basic things??

Pot Odds
Bet Sizing
Counting Outs
Position

Yeah am also suprised at how little people mentioned these things aswell,

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02-03-2011 , 08:30 AM

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denks

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Originally Posted by Masq

Some of the stuff's already been said.

I'd like to add folding to the attributes.

This needs more emphasis! Learning when to fold is extremely underrated yet it would rate up with playing position in importance.

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02-03-2011 , 09:05 AM

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zaiga000

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1. Range
2. Implied Odds
3. Bet Sizing
4. Position
5. Aggression

That's really all there is to NLHE. Bankroll management is extremely important too, but not really a strategy aspect.

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02-03-2011 , 09:41 AM

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Trojan

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Originally Posted by isac1984

3) Handreading (AND TRUSTING YOUR READS not "ok he has a set but i have AK i call")

Sounds like me trying to prove how unlucky I am again.

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02-03-2011 , 09:49 AM

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kfs

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Originally Posted by denks

This needs more emphasis! Learning when to fold is extremely underrated yet it would rate up with playing position in importance.

+1

Learning to fold is tough. Its almost like an ego thing. But the truth is, once you learn to fold more, it starts to feel good (ty tommy angelo). Getting over the idea of "he cant have it" or the urge to just see, is huge imo.

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02-03-2011 , 10:10 AM

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wisdommaster1

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Originally Posted by kfs

its not tough if you are naturally nitty, some players have a harder time making proper calls than they do folding. i think it just tends on your personality.

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02-03-2011 , 12:58 PM

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cubase

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1) Table Selection
2) Seat Selection

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02-03-2011 , 03:25 PM

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CyberMuppet

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1st (very minor)epiphany: TAG-style opening hand ranges
2nd epiphany: Outs, odds and equity
3rd epiphany: Position
4th epiphany: C-betting
5th epiphany: Fold equity

Maybe these aren't exactly metagame fundamentals but I consider these pretty important.

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02-05-2011 , 07:54 AM

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FindNameHere

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All solid gold so far, this is basically a bump .

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